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 Posted: Thu, 30th Jun 2005 09:45 Post subject: |
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You can't get to the BIOS, so the system does not POST at all? Are you getting any CMOS peeping messages. Do you hear the HD's spinning up? Added new hardware recently?
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Jenni
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| Posted: Thu, 30th Jun 2005 09:49 Post subject: |
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Is the system bleeping at startup?
I reckon that the graphics card has died.
Probably overheated.
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| Posted: Thu, 30th Jun 2005 10:15 Post subject: |
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Get a port 80h diagnostic card and put it in the PCI slot. Note the number the system stops and look that number up in the listing for your bios version. This way you know what's wrong with your machine. Some boards from Epox already have a port 80h diagnsotics onboard.
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[sYn]
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| Posted: Thu, 30th Jun 2005 10:25 Post subject: |
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IMO: GFX card is dead, as thats the first thing to be initiallised you aint getting any PC beeps or post.
Put a new card in and test it, plus, dont turn your machine on with the old card in again until you have ruled out it is NOT the problem, you could make things much worse.
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| Posted: Thu, 30th Jun 2005 10:45 Post subject: |
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a) Check the power-connection to the GFX-card (ie. if it's loose).
b) Make sure the card is properly fastened into the slot (and screw is fastened)
c) Check whether the fan/cooling of your GFX-card works properly.
d) Check your if your GFX-card works in another computer.
If all steps fail, it's your GFX-card.
Otherwise it might be the PSU that's too weak to power it.
Yes, yes I'm back.
Somewhat.
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| Posted: Thu, 30th Jun 2005 10:59 Post subject: |
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| [sYn] wrote: | | IMO: GFX card is dead, as thats the first thing to be initiallised you aint getting any PC beeps or post. |
That is not true, the GFX is never the first thing wich the bios initiallises. A whole lot of other stuff gets initiallised and tested before that. Here is an example (check link below) of the post codes of the once popular Award 4.51PG Bios: (The CPU, memory and other onboard components are first of course)
I can only give the advice to buy such a post diagnostic card for the PCI slot. They are cheap (around 30 Euro) and come very handy if you have anything to do with PC Hardware.
http://www.soltek.com.tw/soltek/FAQ/postcode.html
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| Posted: Fri, 1st Jul 2005 06:37 Post subject: |
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I guess I didn't clarify enuf... The computer powers up, and thats all... It does nothing more, I can't even open the CD drive, and I can't turn it off with the power button, I have to use the switch on the back of hte power supply... And it is not the graphics card, I've tried installing an older card that I have laying around and it made no difference at all. I'm still guessing fried processor or motherboard... Possibly the AGP port on the motherboard??
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| Posted: Fri, 1st Jul 2005 06:58 Post subject: |
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Have you inspected the motherboard? Look carefully at the capacitors. Are they bulging or even leaking? Also when you changed out the graphics card did you remove all other cards in the system? If the motherboard looks good and you have tried to boot without any of the other cards in the system then try to boot with another power supply.
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| Posted: Fri, 1st Jul 2005 08:49 Post subject: |
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| TheDiggler wrote: | | Have you inspected the motherboard? Look carefully at the capacitors. Are they bulging or even leaking? Also when you changed out the graphics card did you remove all other cards in the system? If the motherboard looks good and you have tried to boot without any of the other cards in the system then try to boot with another power supply. |
Its a new compuer, maybe 2 months old at most, I built it myself so it wasn't powered on until all parts where ready to go. I'm sure its not the power supply because the LCD screen on the temp control lights just fine, and eveything powers up when the power button is pushed. But while its on the monitor performs a self test and nothing more, and the computer, altho lit up, and powered, does nothing at all. I've checked the mother board in depth for loost connection, weak sooldering and burn marks, it checked out clean. I'll try booting with everything removed and I'll even try it with another hard drive, but I'm really doubtful that any of that will be the issue... It seems it'd at least show something on the monitor if any PCI or IDE devices were not responding... I still think its the processor or motherboard.. Not for sure, but its my theory
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Jul 2005 14:53 Post subject: |
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It does nothing more, I can't even open the CD drive
There you go: there-s no power to the cd drive. One of the PSU's rails is dead.
Change the PSU.
The CPU can't be fried, it has thermal protection. Same for the VPU (the videocard's cpu).
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Jul 2005 15:51 Post subject: |
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You said it's a new computer - take it to where you bought it and let them replace the mobo and/or processor and find the problem themselves. The warranty is still in tact and you will get new parts.
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| Posted: Tue, 5th Jul 2005 16:45 Post subject: |
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He built it himself as he said. He will have to find the faulty part(s) before he can rma them or he will be charged.
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Jul 2005 00:45 Post subject: |
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Even if he built it himself he could go and replace the faulty part that he found or assumes to be the one.
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Jul 2005 00:51 Post subject: |
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But when you're sending back things to a pc parts shop, you have to be totally sure it is faulty or they'll charge you. You cannot assume anything.
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Jul 2005 14:44 Post subject: |
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That's true but he has nothing to lose...
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| Posted: Wed, 6th Jul 2005 14:47 Post subject: |
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| exon wrote: | | That's true but he has nothing to lose... |
Besides being charged
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| Posted: Thu, 7th Jul 2005 00:05 Post subject: |
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| m2rock wrote: | | exon wrote: | | That's true but he has nothing to lose... |
Besides being charged |
I don't know how things are where you live, but here you can purchase pieces of hardware and if you state that the hardware is faulty they send it to the manufacturer, you wait a week or so and get a new one. That's how warranty works they won't charge you again.
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I have no idea what could have caused this because I hadn't done anything to the hardware or any major system changes... The only thing I took notice of before it messed up was that I had a windows update downloading... and until someone can give me a bit of advice on what has caused this catastrophe, I'm blaming Microsoft! ...bastards
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