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 Posted: Fri, 22nd Jul 2005 07:31 Post subject: The Official 'Good/Bad' Movies thread. |
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The Da Vinci Code
- Genre: Mystery / Drama / Thriller
- Theatrical release: 05.19.06
- Rated: ---
- Length: ---
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| Quote: | When respected American religious symbology expert Dr. Robert Langdon(Hanks) is summoned to the Louvre by the French version of the FBI, led by Captain Bezu Fache(Reno), he soon discovered that he is the #1 suspect for the murder of a historian Langdon had been scheduled to meet with.. Assisted by a French cryptographer and government agent named Sophie(Tautou), Langdon is challenged to decipher a chain of cryptic codes and puzzles, all the while trying to stay ahead of Fache's lawmen in a chase through the Louvre, and out into the Parisian cityscape, and finally across the channel to England. Can Langdon and Sophie decipher the nature of a secret dating back to Leonardo Da Vinci and earlier before those responsible for the historian's murder add them to their hit list..?
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- Official web page: Official Page
- Producing company: Sony Pictures
- Director: Ron Howard
- Pictures: ---
- Trailer: LINK
- IMDB page: Da Vinci Code
- IMDB score: ---/--- (---)
- Main actors:
| Quote: | Tom Hanks
Audrey Tautou
Ian McKellen
Alfred Molina
Jean Reno
Paul Bettany
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 This will be a box office killer Can't wait to see it (it's the 2nd movie I actually wanna watch - after Indy 4  )
I've just finished the book, and I gotta say WOW I don't read books much but this one was great... can't wait for the movie...
Nice casting (especially Tautou and Reno)!
Thoughts?
About Hitman: Movie (2007)
Vin Diesel is a hardcore gamer, and absolutely loves the Hitman series. For that reason I have faith that he wont destroy the movie.
Response: Well, Uwe Boll probably loved the Alone in the Dark games.
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| Posted: Fri, 22nd Jul 2005 08:11 Post subject: |
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erm... i dont particularly care  some book adaptations work great though (schindlers list?) but im not gonna stereotype it.. lets just wait until it gets closer to the release ay 
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Griffon
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Esel_Gesi
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| Posted: Fri, 22nd Jul 2005 09:53 Post subject: |
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about 3/4 through the book now. taking me a while cause i only read in my spare time which is rare these days. i hope they can pull off the movie cause it is a great story.
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| Posted: Fri, 22nd Jul 2005 10:12 Post subject: |
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Books superb (angels and demons is better) film will prolly be pish like most Book > film conversions.
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I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ? |
Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa!
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| Posted: Fri, 22nd Jul 2005 12:23 Post subject: |
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great book, I'll guess the movie will be a disappointment?
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| Posted: Fri, 22nd Jul 2005 12:39 Post subject: |
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Well it's certainly got an interesting cast.
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| Posted: Fri, 22nd Jul 2005 12:39 Post subject: |
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| Voodoo-child wrote: | | great book, I'll guess the movie will be a disappointment? |
Hmm, hang on, let me consult my crystal ball  |
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Griffon
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| Posted: Fri, 22nd Jul 2005 20:34 Post subject: |
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| Voodoo-child wrote: | | great book, I'll guess the movie will be a disappointment? |
Ron Howard <- How bad can it be ?
About Hitman: Movie (2007)
Vin Diesel is a hardcore gamer, and absolutely loves the Hitman series. For that reason I have faith that he wont destroy the movie.
Response: Well, Uwe Boll probably loved the Alone in the Dark games.
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| Posted: Fri, 22nd Jul 2005 23:45 Post subject: |
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Audrey Tautou <3
i will see it only because shes in it...
and if you havent heard of her...watch Amelie and A Very Long Engagement
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Griffon
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| Posted: Sat, 23rd Jul 2005 07:24 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Ron Howard <- How bad can it be ? |
Try horrible. Let's make another movie where we take no chances at all and specifically go out of our way not to even remotely insult anyone. Ron Howard is a joke and is the worst director to win an Academy Award since.... well, EVER.
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Griffon
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| Posted: Sat, 23rd Jul 2005 07:35 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 23rd Jul 2005 07:42 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Yea, okie Smile
Ron Howard is one of the best directors out there... Beautiful Mind, Cinderella Man, Apollo 13 etc... but of course, we all know that you can direct a lot better then the joke Howard! |
Yes because I claimed I am a director.... Listen. I can have my own opinion and not have to be in the film industry. The fact is though, Ron Howard movies have nothing remotely involving anything that might create controversy. All he does is pour out sappy stories that have no real value as film other than make you say....aww I feel bad for that guy. There were interesting things he could've explored in all three of those films but he decided to go for the cliched horsecrap.
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Griffon
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| Posted: Sat, 23rd Jul 2005 07:44 Post subject: |
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| Oski wrote: | | Quote: | Yea, okie Smile
Ron Howard is one of the best directors out there... Beautiful Mind, Cinderella Man, Apollo 13 etc... but of course, we all know that you can direct a lot better then the joke Howard! |
Yes because I claimed I am a director.... Listen. I can have my own opinion and not have to be in the film industry. The fact is though, Ron Howard movies have nothing remotely involving anything that might create controversy. All he does is pour out sappy stories that have no real value as film other than make you say....aww I feel bad for that guy. There were interesting things he could've explored in all three of those films but he decided to go for the cliched horsecrap. |
It's not a fact, it's an opinion, a very stupid one too...
Who else is your 'bad directors' list ? Spielberg ? Clintwood ? Ridley ? No ?
Who is your favourite director ? Tarantino ? Pyun ? Boll ?
P.S. State some interesting things that he could explore... for let's say Beautiful Mind...
About Hitman: Movie (2007)
Vin Diesel is a hardcore gamer, and absolutely loves the Hitman series. For that reason I have faith that he wont destroy the movie.
Response: Well, Uwe Boll probably loved the Alone in the Dark games.
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Saner
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| Posted: Sat, 23rd Jul 2005 07:48 Post subject: |
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He has made some good films, and some bad ones.
But to each there own, I didnt realise someones opinion had to be the same as your to be right.
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I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ? |
Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa!
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Griffon
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| Posted: Sat, 23rd Jul 2005 07:53 Post subject: |
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| |nSaNe wrote: | He has made some good films, and some bad ones.
But to each there own, I didnt realise someones opinion had to be the same as your to be right. |
True, I never said he is wrong, cause it's his opinion, BUT! he said his 'opinion' is a fact...
| Oski wrote: | | The fact is though....... |
Of course if someone like COLDPLAY, I won't say: dude! IT'S BAD! YOU MUST NOT LIKE IT! CAUSE I DON'T LIKE IT!
I respect all of the opinions but when someone says : "HE SUCK" it's not really an opinion, it's... something... else...
About Hitman: Movie (2007)
Vin Diesel is a hardcore gamer, and absolutely loves the Hitman series. For that reason I have faith that he wont destroy the movie.
Response: Well, Uwe Boll probably loved the Alone in the Dark games.
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| Posted: Sat, 23rd Jul 2005 08:04 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | It's not a fact, it's an opinion, a very stupid one too... |
Yes I should look to you for the definition of stupid. Instead of claiming its dumb why don't you bring forth a point that might argue my statement.
| Quote: | | Who else is your 'bad directors' list ? Spielberg ? Clintwood ? Ridley ? No ? |
Well if you want my opinion then fine...
Spielberg - Decent but nowhere near where so many people hold him.
Eastwood - Learned from the best and has applied it. Not always great but atleast has a style.
Ridley - A technical master who with the right material can easily make a masterpiece.
| Quote: | | Who is your favourite director ? Tarantino ? Pyun ? Boll ? |
David Lynch.
| Quote: | | P.S. State some interesting things that he could explore... for let's say Beautiful Mind... |
How about not just presenting the material just as it is. Look ma its a crazy genius................ that's it. You watch the movie and just have a bland taste in your mouth. Certainly the execution isn't bad but it isn't spectacular either. Howard could've focused on his schizophrenia a lot more and not paint Nash into this demi-God. He could've focused on his mathematics and actually go into more depth on why he was such an important person. All the movie managed to get across is that schizophrenia is bad to have (a rather dumb point to want to get the audience to understand). This movie would've worked as a romance but ONLY as a romance. Either way I'm not saying the movie is god awful, it certainly had its moments (none of which were because of Howard) but it is mediocre not great.
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| Quote: | | True, I never said he is wrong, cause it's his opinion, BUT! he said his 'opinion' is a fact... |
Yes you clearly said I am wrong.
| Quote: | Of course if someone like COLDPLAY, I won't say: dude! IT'S BAD! YOU MUST NOT LIKE IT! CAUSE I DON'T LIKE IT!
I respect all of the opinions but when someone says : "HE SUCK" it's not really an opinion, it's... something... else... |
Why is someone saying someone else sucks not an opinion? Tell me what it is exactly. Forums are based on sharing your opinion you shouldn't have to say IMO everytime you post something.
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Griffon
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| Posted: Sat, 23rd Jul 2005 18:52 Post subject: |
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It's funny how you try to insult me but fail miserably because you can't even argue the points I brought up.
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Griffon
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| Posted: Sat, 23rd Jul 2005 20:41 Post subject: |
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| Oski wrote: | | It's funny how you try to insult me but fail miserably because you can't even argue the points I brought up. |
I don't argue on opinions, cause I will never prove you wrong, and you won't prove me wrong. So basicly it will be a waste of posts/time etc...
It's sad to see you turn a statement to an insult...
About Hitman: Movie (2007)
Vin Diesel is a hardcore gamer, and absolutely loves the Hitman series. For that reason I have faith that he wont destroy the movie.
Response: Well, Uwe Boll probably loved the Alone in the Dark games.
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You really are an idiot.
| Quote: | | I don't argue on opinions, cause I will never prove you wrong, and you won't prove me wrong. So basicly it will be a waste of posts/time etc... |
Why don't you tell me why A Beautiful Mind is good? Why don't you attempt to atleast prove my look at the film wrong and show me that Howard doesn't play it safe in every movie he makes? These are things that according to you are not true but you fail to mention any proof as to why they aren't. Show me the reasoning behind your opinion don't just randomly say things and then when asked why you think that, claim its only an opinion. An opinion is formed because of something, not just out of the blue. Should politicians stop debating because they have different opinions?
| Quote: | | It's sad to see you turn a statement to an insult... |
You threw mud at me. Do you expect me to sit there and not throw any back?
All you seem to do is avoid the actual discussion and then make bold statements without any logic or reasoning.
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Griffon
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| Posted: Sun, 24th Jul 2005 09:59 Post subject: |
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| Oski wrote: | You really are an idiot.
| Quote: | | I don't argue on opinions, cause I will never prove you wrong, and you won't prove me wrong. So basicly it will be a waste of posts/time etc... |
Why don't you tell me why A Beautiful Mind is good? Why don't you attempt to atleast prove my look at the film wrong and show me that Howard doesn't play it safe in every movie he makes? These are things that according to you are not true but you fail to mention any proof as to why they aren't. Show me the reasoning behind your opinion don't just randomly say things and then when asked why you think that, claim its only an opinion. An opinion is formed because of something, not just out of the blue. Should politicians stop debating because they have different opinions?
| Quote: | | It's sad to see you turn a statement to an insult... |
All you seem to do is avoid the actual discussion and then make bold statements without any logic or reasoning. |
Why would I try and prove *YOUR* look (opinion) wrong? It's your look, I don't care what you think, I like it, you don't... so ?
You like Lynch. No wonder you don't like Directors like Howard etc...
Why would I waste my time on telling you why *I* liked it (ABM) anyways ?
I hate Lynch. Lost Highway and Mullholand Drive are in my TOP 10 worst movies ever list, but
I won't ask you to tell me why those 'movies' are good, cause even if you will start giving me your 'critic' opinions it still wouldn't change my mind/taste/opinion.
I won't even waste time on people who say that Spielberg is decent, so you might as well just stop replying to my posts
| Oksi wrote: | | You threw mud at me. Do you expect me to sit there and not throw any back? |
Yea, why not ?
LOL I laugh at people that get all angry on forums
P.S. If you actually tried to insult me (I think... ?), well, it didn't work. Next time try harder
Or just don't try at all...
About Hitman: Movie (2007)
Vin Diesel is a hardcore gamer, and absolutely loves the Hitman series. For that reason I have faith that he wont destroy the movie.
Response: Well, Uwe Boll probably loved the Alone in the Dark games.
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| Quote: | | Why would I try and prove *YOUR* look (opinion) wrong? It's your look, I don't care what you think, I like it, you don't... so ? |
Someone's opinion does not make a movie good or bad. Its the craft. You don't have to like something for it to be good. I don't like Salvador Dali's paitings but I recognize that they are masterpieces for a reason.
| Quote: | | You like Lynch. No wonder you don't like Directors like Howard etc... |
You certainly got my personality nailed.....
| Quote: | | Why would I waste my time on telling you why *I* liked it (ABM) anyways ? |
I don't really care WHY you liked it, I just want to see why you think it's more than mediocre. My statements about the film are not entirely an opinion. Tell my why it merits being called great art because its not original or very provacative.
| Quote: | I hate Lynch. Lost Highway and Mullholand Drive are in my TOP 10 worst movies ever list, but
I won't ask you to tell me why those 'movies' are good, cause even if you will start giving me your 'critic' opinions it still wouldn't change my mind/taste/opinion. |
You fail to grasp the point that good art is not always subjective. If it was like that, my home movies would be the greatest masterpieces on the planet because I think so.
| Quote: | I won't even waste time on people who say that Spielberg is decent, so you might as well just stop replying to my post
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Yet you already have. Maybe you just know you dug yourself into a hole.
| Quote: | Yea, why not ? Laughing
LOL I laugh at people that get all angry on forums |
Yes because you can certainly tell what kind of mood I'm in because of a couple words. Stop assuming you know me. You have no clue about how I am.
| Quote: | P.S. If you actually tried to insult me (I think... ?), well, it didn't work. Next time try harder Laughing Laughing
Or just don't try at all... |
I'm left speechless by the great Griffon the all mighty 5 year old. You could've done better with just a "fuck you".
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Griffon
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| Posted: Mon, 25th Jul 2005 08:44 Post subject: |
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| Oski wrote: | | Quote: | | Why would I try and prove *YOUR* look (opinion) wrong? It's your look, I don't care what you think, I like it, you don't... so ? |
Someone's opinion does not make a movie good or bad. Its the craft. You don't have to like something for it to be good. I don't like Salvador Dali's paitings but I recognize that they are masterpieces for a reason.
| Quote: | | You like Lynch. No wonder you don't like Directors like Howard etc... |
You certainly got my personality nailed.....
| Quote: | | Why would I waste my time on telling you why *I* liked it (ABM) anyways ? |
I don't really care WHY you liked it, I just want to see why you think it's more than mediocre. My statements about the film are not entirely an opinion. Tell my why it merits being called great art because its not original or very provacative.
| Quote: | I hate Lynch. Lost Highway and Mullholand Drive are in my TOP 10 worst movies ever list, but
I won't ask you to tell me why those 'movies' are good, cause even if you will start giving me your 'critic' opinions it still wouldn't change my mind/taste/opinion. |
You fail to grasp the point that good art is not always subjective. If it was like that, my home movies would be the greatest masterpieces on the planet because I think so.
| Quote: | I won't even waste time on people who say that Spielberg is decent, so you might as well just stop replying to my post
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Yet you already have. Maybe you just know you dug yourself into a hole.
| Quote: | Yea, why not ? Laughing
LOL I laugh at people that get all angry on forums |
Yes because you can certainly tell what kind of mood I'm in because of a couple words. Stop assuming you know me. You have no clue about how I am.
| Quote: | P.S. If you actually tried to insult me (I think... ?), well, it didn't work. Next time try harder Laughing Laughing
Or just don't try at all... |
I'm left speechless by the great Griffon the all mighty 5 year old. You could've done better with just a "fuck you". |
| Oski wrote: | | You fail to grasp the point that good art is not always subjective. If it was like that, my home movies would be the greatest masterpieces on the planet because I think so. |
Good art ? 
You have home movies ? You are special. Cookie ?
| Oski wrote: | | Yes because you can certainly tell what kind of mood I'm in because of a couple words. |
Not couple of words, not even words - sentances. And loads of them
P.S. Thanks for wasting so much time on me, I feel special
About Hitman: Movie (2007)
Vin Diesel is a hardcore gamer, and absolutely loves the Hitman series. For that reason I have faith that he wont destroy the movie.
Response: Well, Uwe Boll probably loved the Alone in the Dark games.
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At this point all you can do is resort to insults since you can't even discuss or argue on this topic because your clueless. I'm suprised I even bothered to mention good art to you because your taste seems to be borderline idiotic. You wouldn't know what great art is unless your grade school teacher plainly told you.
It's amazing how you've managed to live until now. If you spoke the same bullshit to me in real life I would have put your balls in a vice.
How's that for playing dirty? Let's avoid the discussion and talk trash some more.
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| Posted: Mon, 25th Jul 2005 17:36 Post subject: |
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Griffon,
You know what your fucking problem is?
Not that you blocked me of course 
But the fact that you believe you’re this movie guru who knows why a movie is good and what makes the movie good. But when you’re put on the line you can’t argue worth shit.
Only thing you can say, obviously seen by us all, is that “it’s all opinion”
Are you afraid of being wrong? I mean! Argue the movie! You obviously loved “ABM” then say what made it good. Don’t go around trash talking everyone who says otherwise.
It’s an opinion whether you like a movie or not.
It’s a fact whether or not a movie is good.
You understand, bwoy?
Right now you’re acting like a fucking asshole. You can’t argue a topic… you can’t understand the argument… or… you just are too fucking stupid.
Which one is it? I say all of the above, but that’s just my opinion.
We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl, year after year, running over the same old ground. What have we found? The same old fears. Wish you were here.
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| Injurious wrote: |
It’s an opinion whether you like a movie or not.
It’s a fact whether or not a movie is good.
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How so? What factually makes a movie good? It's revenue? The amount of critics that say it's good? How many hotdogs were sold at the premier?
Seems more like it's majority rule now that defines whether a movie is 'good' or not. Lets say a movie is released on an island of 100 people, they all thought it was a masterpiece, and therefore it's regarded as such. Then the movie is released to the whole population of the planet. Suddenly it's not a masterpiece any more because only 100,000 thought it was good.
So what does that say about whether it's fact that a movie is good or not?
Please, that sentence is utter tripe Injurious, and you know it.
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