Game Dev Tycoon trolls pirates
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mike20599




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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Apr 2013 17:11    Post subject: Game Dev Tycoon trolls pirates
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Apr 2013 17:14    Post subject:
Funny.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Apr 2013 17:14    Post subject:
pretty nice idea, does anyone know how to force it to run windowed?
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Apr 2013 17:20    Post subject:
did they spoof the release as the alias group, or is that one actually cracked by the group?


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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Apr 2013 17:21    Post subject:
AFAIK that's a real release.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Apr 2013 17:23    Post subject:
Very well done !



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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Apr 2013 17:58    Post subject:
The game is awesome, if a little difficult, and if you liked the iOS/Android "Game Dev Story" - you'll love this one. Greenheart took GDS and improved on it enormously, there's a lot more to do in GDT than there ever was in GDS and it plays great. Fairly difficult though, thanks to the "slider" based development system - it can take a while to get to grips with each aspect of development. I grabbed the yarr copy because I'm broke as fuck, but stopped playing at around Year 8 as I enjoyed it too much and wanted to get the legitimate one, so I never encountered the constantly-pirated dilemma.

Definitely worth buying, especially for a measly eight bucks (or 49kr here)

And yes, the "all your games get pirated and you go bankrupt" trigger stuff was hilarious. Much prefer that than draconian DRM, though Greenheart did miss a chance to convert pirates into customers by not offering a "This is a pirated copy. If you like it, click here to upgrade to a full" option. Instead the game just brutally destroys you and you're left thinking "this is shit, too buggy, never going back"
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Apr 2013 18:02    Post subject:
I agree sabin, it's a great game so far. I'm playing the Yarr version (12th year), and it's pretty awesome. What's especially awesome -> create an action game -> only invest in engine (nothing in story and gameplay) and graphics and sound. I called it "Call of Derps" and it had 9's and 10's and sold for a total of 3 million cash (my first hit game)


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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Apr 2013 18:11    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
The game is awesome, if a little difficult, and if you liked the iOS/Android "Game Dev Story" - you'll love this one. Greenheart took GDS and improved on it enormously, there's a lot more to do in GDT than there ever was in GDS and it plays great. Fairly difficult though, thanks to the "slider" based development system - it can take a while to get to grips with each aspect of development. I grabbed the yarr copy because I'm broke as fuck, but stopped playing at around Year 8 as I enjoyed it too much and wanted to get the legitimate one, so I never encountered the constantly-pirated dilemma.

Definitely worth buying, especially for a measly eight bucks (or 49kr here)

And yes, the "all your games get pirated and you go bankrupt" trigger stuff was hilarious. Much prefer that than draconian DRM, though Greenheart did miss a chance to convert pirates into customers by not offering a "This is a pirated copy. If you like it, click here to upgrade to a full" option. Instead the game just brutally destroys you and you're left thinking "this is shit, too buggy, never going back"
I saw your post in the Greenheart's forum and I completely agree with ya mate!
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Apr 2013 19:10    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
The game is awesome, if a little difficult, and if you liked the iOS/Android "Game Dev Story" - you'll love this one. Greenheart took GDS and improved on it enormously, there's a lot more to do in GDT than there ever was in GDS and it plays great. Fairly difficult though, thanks to the "slider" based development system - it can take a while to get to grips with each aspect of development. I grabbed the yarr copy because I'm broke as fuck, but stopped playing at around Year 8 as I enjoyed it too much and wanted to get the legitimate one, so I never encountered the constantly-pirated dilemma.

Definitely worth buying, especially for a measly eight bucks (or 49kr here)

And yes, the "all your games get pirated and you go bankrupt" trigger stuff was hilarious. Much prefer that than draconian DRM, though Greenheart did miss a chance to convert pirates into customers by not offering a "This is a pirated copy. If you like it, click here to upgrade to a full" option. Instead the game just brutally destroys you and you're left thinking "this is shit, too buggy, never going back"


:O A better Game Dev Story running on PC?! I'm sold!


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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Apr 2013 19:17    Post subject:
Where is the "Get rid of our moron DRM and make it worthwhile to people to buy!" option? Rolling Eyes

(I mean in the game, not that necessarily this game is riddled with DRM.)
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Apr 2013 19:20    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
Where is the "Get rid of our moron DRM and make it worthwhile to people to buy!" option? Rolling Eyes

(I mean in the game, not that necessarily this game is riddled with DRM.)


It's there Smile In the "proper" version of the game, the non-trigger seeded one, you're given the option on how to tackle piracy and fangames -- you can choose to ship your games without DRM if you wish, or you can choose to actually put development into new DRM systems. There's always going to be *some* piracy of your shipped games (much like life) but the same mantra in life applies here; make a great game and people will buy it, make a shitty one (or, well, have dodgy "reviews") and it won't sell as much.

Oh and there's no DRM at all in the real GDT, just a code-change (increased piracy) on the Yarr version that Greenheart put out. You get a DRM-free version when you buy, or you can have a Win8/Steam copy if and when Steam is approved.

@Mutie

It really is like a better version of GDT, it's a lot more involved and I definitely recommend to fans of either the iOS version of GDS or the PC-JP release. Speaking of, I'm still waiting on a proper translation from AdeptGamer, despite having paid for it almost a year ago. I have my doubts they're ever going to finish :\

@Warriormax

Thank you Smile I'm a pirate and I don't hide it, but I still go out of my way to buy games that are worth it when I can afford to.

@Areius

I hadn't tried that one yet Surprised


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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Apr 2013 19:22    Post subject:
You convinced me to buy! Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Apr 2013 19:23    Post subject:
Try the demo first Razz It lasts for the first 5 years of the game and the only restriction is you don't leave the garage/one-man-team beginning. Or hell, try the Yarr version and play up to Year 10 or so, that's when piracy trigger kicks in Laughing It's my birthday in a couple weeks and, luckily!, my brother is sending me some cash - so I'll buy my own copy then.
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Apr 2013 19:24    Post subject:
How much it costs? I think I want to support.
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Apr 2013 19:24    Post subject:
ALiAS release is OK without that trigger Wink but i will probably buy it when it gots greenlit
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Apr 2013 19:25    Post subject:
It's regional (which you can change too) - but usually it's $8/£5/49kr or thereabouts. Greenheart said they're trying to get Steam keys for existing buyers, but that all depends on whether it gets Greenlit or not. Sadly a lot of people are tearing the game apart since it's so (very!) similar to GDS.
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Apr 2013 19:35    Post subject:
prudislav wrote:
ALiAS release is OK without that trigger Wink but i will probably buy it when it gots greenlit


Alot of people are saying the ALiAS release still has the trigger.
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Apr 2013 19:57    Post subject:
I do not believe in piracy anymore. Everyone here have plenty of games on steam.

I mean... even when new games are released there are like 10+ ppl on steam playing it midnight Laughing


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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Apr 2013 20:01    Post subject:
Mr_Benzedrine wrote:
prudislav wrote:
ALiAS release is OK without that trigger Wink but i will probably buy it when it gots greenlit


Alot of people are saying the ALiAS release still has the trigger.

i have no problems with it on ALiAS release , i only uninstalled previous version and deleted saves before installing alias
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Apr 2013 20:04    Post subject:
Mutantius wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
The game is awesome, if a little difficult, and if you liked the iOS/Android "Game Dev Story" - you'll love this one. Greenheart took GDS and improved on it enormously, there's a lot more to do in GDT than there ever was in GDS and it plays great. Fairly difficult though, thanks to the "slider" based development system - it can take a while to get to grips with each aspect of development. I grabbed the yarr copy because I'm broke as fuck, but stopped playing at around Year 8 as I enjoyed it too much and wanted to get the legitimate one, so I never encountered the constantly-pirated dilemma.

Definitely worth buying, especially for a measly eight bucks (or 49kr here)

And yes, the "all your games get pirated and you go bankrupt" trigger stuff was hilarious. Much prefer that than draconian DRM, though Greenheart did miss a chance to convert pirates into customers by not offering a "This is a pirated copy. If you like it, click here to upgrade to a full" option. Instead the game just brutally destroys you and you're left thinking "this is shit, too buggy, never going back"


:O A better Game Dev Story running on PC?! I'm sold!


:OOOOOOO
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Apr 2013 20:07    Post subject:
Unfortunately this jokey little dig at pirates has had a rather negative affect, as rather than thinking "oops, we dun goofed, okay.. you caught us, we'll go buy" - they have flooded the developer site with indignant tirades about Greenheart stealing GDS and - as such - don't have the "right" to complain about pirates.

*sigh*

That really is a shame.

Also, I apologise to Leo; apparently there is one restriction on the main game - people are claiming it only allows you to install on 3 machines at once, just like SecuROM. I haven't verified this myself, but if it's true then yeah.. Greenheart need to stop selling it as "DRM-free" Neutral Though, as I said, I can't find any confirmation about that so it could just be the same people trying to poison public opinion.
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Apr 2013 20:10    Post subject:
Hi sabin Smile

Personally I believe they got way more exposure than they could have ever hoped for, and in the end even the "bad" publicity they get will do them good.

Because honestly how many of us have heard of this game before today?


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Apr 2013 20:12    Post subject:
Hey consolitis Smile

You're right, this kind of exposure is fantastic! They're on all the major gaming sites front pages now, thanks to this, so it's drawing tons of attention and - hopefully - it will end up being profitable. Up until a few weeks back, this was a Windows 8 exclusive, so I don't doubt not many people had heard of it -- and yes, Greenheart are certainly using the fanbase's love of Dev Story to sell this, but so what? It's an expanded, improved, clone of the game and I'm happy with that. Kairosoft haven't complained about it, so I don't see why indignant pirates should either :\

It's just a shame that there are bad elements on the main site now, doing anything and everything to kick up a fuss. I'm just waiting for the "fraud" card to be played now, in relation to Greenheart uploading a modified pirates-only version via torrents.

~edit~

http://forum.greenheartgames.com/t/kudos-to-drm-free-game/344/7

No physical DRM. The EULA simply specifies that you can only "legally" install on 3 machines at once, it's not enforced by software limitations.


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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Apr 2013 20:21    Post subject:
It's not on Steam yet Mad
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Apr 2013 20:22    Post subject:
Nah, just Greenlight for now ---- or you could always get it from the Metro App Store Cool Face
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Apr 2013 20:23    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
It's not on Steam yet Mad

only Greenlight http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=134714217
and its available on Win8 Store for months Wink
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Apr 2013 20:25    Post subject:
Who carez about win8 store Laughing
I have UAC disabled and Win8 "Metro" apps do not function without it.
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Apr 2013 20:25    Post subject:
As soon as i read the article and that its like game dev story i insta bought it. Never heard about it prior to that.
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