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 Posted: Thu, 1st Sep 2005 02:31 Post subject: SWAT 4: The Stetchkov Syndicate |
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Yes, We're Getting a SWAT 4 Exp Pack!
A post to the (new) VUG forums today revealed the existence of an expansion pack for SWAT 4. According to a story in the latest issue of the US print magazine, Computer Gaming World, an expansion pack is being developed for SWAT 4 and is expected to be released sometime next spring. Apparently the pack will include new weapons (sniper rifles!), grenade launchers, and glow sticks have all been added. From community members who've read the article, it appears changes that were often requested have now been implemented.
In a surprise move, IG Boston isn't working on the expansion pack, but instead IG Australia, their counterparts in the southern hemisphere.
The news hasn't officially been confirmed through VUG PR channels, and so few other details were released.
UPDATE: Thanks to readers of Computer Gaming World, we've learned some new details on the upcoming expansion pack. Some of them are very exciting for SWAT fans:
Compliant, but unsecured suspects can no longer be considered secured. They will have to be secured, as was the case in SWAT 3.
The expansion pack promises to offer missions which will be tied together by a linked storyline (a suspect is on the run across multiple missions).
Simultaneous commands to both the red and blue teams is possible.
Co-op missions for 10 players will now be supported.
The quick mission maker can create scenarios which can be used in co-op.
Voice-issued commands now play a crucial role in both single-player and multiplayer manuevers.
Suspects will now use blind supression fire.
Evidence at a crime scene can be disposed of by suspects.
A new multiplayer mode is planned which will feature "asymmetric" weapon distribution (think of Splinter Cell's multiplayer modes, perhaps?).
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| Posted: Thu, 1st Sep 2005 02:58 Post subject: |
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Looking forward to this one !!! I still rate SWAT 4 as the best game of the year !!! Bring it on !!!!
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| Posted: Thu, 1st Sep 2005 03:39 Post subject: |
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Yeah I still play Swat 4 regularly. I'm definately looking forward to this expansion.
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HubU
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| Posted: Thu, 1st Sep 2005 04:13 Post subject: |
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SWAT4 is some REAL fun. But the map diversity sux.
Need this badly ^^
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| Posted: Sat, 28th Jan 2006 18:01 Post subject: |
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gone gold, release date february 28
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deelix
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The Rat
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| Posted: Sat, 28th Jan 2006 23:02 Post subject: |
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Piece of shit console game. Play Swat 3 instead.
| kirkblitz wrote: | | You attack other people constantly for not loving blacks or asians or whatever. YOU are the most hateful of us all, you sit there and preach hate toward people who dont like diversity |
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| Posted: Sat, 28th Jan 2006 23:06 Post subject: |
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| The Rat wrote: | | Piece of shit console game. Play Swat 3 instead. |
dear mr rat, i bring to your attention that swat 4 is a pc only title, and was never released on any console. rainbow six, ghost recon: those are the arcadish shitty consolish games. swat 4 was probably the less arcadish action game in 2005.
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| Posted: Sat, 28th Jan 2006 23:52 Post subject: |
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| ELIZ wrote: |
he must be feeling like shit now  |
So?
He basically bashed a non-consolish shooter and told us to play a weaker and older game (both gameplay and graphics wise).
And yes,I do own a legal copy of Swat 3 (Elite edition  ) |
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| Posted: Sat, 28th Jan 2006 23:58 Post subject: |
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of course i was referring to rainbow six lockdown and ghost recon 3 when i said "arcadish"
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| Posted: Sun, 29th Jan 2006 00:17 Post subject: |
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The Rat
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| Posted: Sun, 29th Jan 2006 04:14 Post subject: |
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I am fully aware that Swat 4 is a PC shooter but it is a horribly dumbed down arcade version of Swat 3. Yes it is graphically superior to Swat 3 but that is to be expected since it uses 6 years of newer technology.
Swat 4 is bubble gum for kids. The only people who think Swat 4 is better are twelve year olds who like to play Counter Strike.
If you want a real tactical shooter that encourages cooperative play and proper police tactics then play Swat 3.
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| Posted: Sun, 29th Jan 2006 04:35 Post subject: |
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i own both and i enjoy both. I think both are good and you should play them in order.
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Jan 2006 01:33 Post subject: |
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ill add my agreement with the majority in this case. If swat 4 was a counter-strike-ish console kiddie game, it would be flying off the shelves and, more importantly, WOULD BE ON A CONSOLE. Instead it is based on real rules of engagement and scores you on those, places you in realistic situations with always changing scenarios, has realistic modeled ballistics and irrational enemy behavior, loads of different tactical approaches, and does all that with a beautiful game engine. If you don't think all of that makes a worthwhile and mature game in this era of visually-pleasing but otherwise empty shooters, you really must have a few screws loose.
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Jan 2006 09:46 Post subject: |
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| upstart_69 wrote: | | has realistic modeled ballistics and irrational enemy behavior, loads of different tactical approaches, and does all that with a beautiful game engine. If you don't think all of that makes a worthwhile and mature game in this era of visually-pleasing but otherwise empty shooters, you really must have a few screws loose. |
You consider bullet proof walls realistic ballistics? In the real world you have to be careful where your bullets go in a firefight because it could very easily go through a wall and kill a hostage or fellow officer. In Swat 4 the walls are apparently made of 2 feet of concrete. Hardly realistic.
Do you also consider it realistic that all doors open away from you in Swat 4? I don't know about your world but where I live sometimes the door opens outwards and sometimes inwards.
Do you consider it realistic that once a suspect gives up that he is no longer a threat to the officers even if he isn't handcuffed? In the real world suspects can run away or resist until they are handcuffed.
Do you think it is realistic that pepper spray affects an officer with a Gas mask on in Swat 4? In real life a gas mask would protect the officer from CS and pepper spray.
Swat 4 is bubble gum for CS kiddies who like to own each other in TDM. The game is visually pretty but that is it. If you want serious cooperative gameplay then pick up Swat 3 because Swat 4 is "visually-pleasing but otherwise an empty shooter".
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Jan 2006 10:08 Post subject: |
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i really liked swat 1,2,3,4
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Jan 2006 11:45 Post subject: |
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| The Rat wrote: | | upstart_69 wrote: | | has realistic modeled ballistics and irrational enemy behavior, loads of different tactical approaches, and does all that with a beautiful game engine. If you don't think all of that makes a worthwhile and mature game in this era of visually-pleasing but otherwise empty shooters, you really must have a few screws loose. |
You consider bullet proof walls realistic ballistics? In the real world you have to be careful where your bullets go in a firefight because it could very easily go through a wall and kill a hostage or fellow officer. In Swat 4 the walls are apparently made of 2 feet of concrete. Hardly realistic.
Do you also consider it realistic that all doors open away from you in Swat 4? I don't know about your world but where I live sometimes the door opens outwards and sometimes inwards.
Do you consider it realistic that once a suspect gives up that he is no longer a threat to the officers even if he isn't handcuffed? In the real world suspects can run away or resist until they are handcuffed.
Do you think it is realistic that pepper spray affects an officer with a Gas mask on in Swat 4? In real life a gas mask would protect the officer from CS and pepper spray.
Swat 4 is bubble gum for CS kiddies who like to own each other in TDM. The game is visually pretty but that is it. If you want serious cooperative gameplay then pick up Swat 3 because Swat 4 is "visually-pleasing but otherwise an empty shooter". |
Once again, I never played CS, and I STILL like SWAT 4. Why are you even in here if you prefer to play an grafically outdated SWAT 3 which imho don't have anything in it that makes it better than v4
Can we just agree on that developers can't always make every sequal to everyones likening. You don't like it so leave it by that and play SWAT 3 then. But to come in a insult people who DO like SWAT 4 I find just plain rude and says more about your age than your actuall knowlege of realism.
You can't please all thats how it is. That don't mean people who do like it MUST be kids cause your expert knowlege(giggles) says it's unrealistic.
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Jan 2006 11:49 Post subject: |
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I like Swat 4, and I wish I where still 12 years old, life was a hell of alot easier back then.
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I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ? |
Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa!
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haha its funny because each one of his points can be applied to swat 3. anyways id love to see a shooter model physics to the point where every bullet trajectory, ricochet, and even pathway through things like walls and the human body are calculated and expressed in-game without the modern computer slowing to an absolute stand-still. until that day(maybe 10 yrs from now? maybe?) i will say swat 4 does a pretty damn good job. and yes i have played swat 3 so give it a rest already.
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Do I also need to mention that Swat 4 doesn't show damage on suspects/hostages/officers because of limitations of the Unreal engine? Hardly realistic. In the real world wounds bleed.
There is an endless list of bugs with the game too and basic features that are missing. So many features that are in Swat 3 that they simply left out because TDM players don't need them.
Swat 4 is a fun arcade shooter. Nothing more. Visual bubblegum..
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| The Rat wrote: | | Swat 4 is a fun arcade shooter. |
then cs is BIG arcade crap, hate this arcade -big jump- shit
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| Posted: Tue, 31st Jan 2006 01:22 Post subject: |
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| The Rat wrote: | Do I also need to mention that Swat 4 doesn't show damage on suspects/hostages/officers because of limitations of the Unreal engine? Hardly realistic. In the real world wounds bleed.
There is an endless list of bugs with the game too and basic features that are missing. So many features that are in Swat 3 that they simply left out because TDM players don't need them.
Swat 4 is a fun arcade shooter. Nothing more. Visual bubblegum.. |
Dude get a grip. Just because you are stuck back 5 yrs ago and love a game most people have moved on from doesnt mean other people cant enjoy new games without falling into to your lame categorizations(btw thats alot like ppl who are 12 do). Here is just a few points to make your side of the arguement seem even more asinine...
1. Did you ever even play swat 3 when it first came out? It was bug city. Texture glitches, ai glitches, mission glitches, audio glitches. It was nearly unplayable. And that was years ago when games were not all needing patches on arrival. It may have been cleaned up by the 2nd or 3rd edition but in the beginning it was not pretty. Also no multiplay in the beginning like swat 4(BTW there was a dm mode in swat 3 when it did implement multiplay so guess some deathmatchers played that one too, eh?).
2. You want realism? why are you not bitching about things like AI officers walking into your line of fire? This happened all the time in swat 3, like insects being drawn to a light, they would stumble directly into friendly fire. This has only happened a couple times in swat 4 when i was being reckless with my fire.
3. You would much rather see a few blood decals on bodies than lifelike ragdoll effects and location damage? I myself prefer to see friends and enemies limping away from a firefight rather than a few blood decals. And that seems more like someone from a counter-strike background would want, visuals instead of gameplay.
4. If you were not so lazy and would google for "swat 4 mods" you will find realism mods that just about remedy every single point you have made against the game. I recommend S.S.F. Realism mod. This was made possible because the good team released the SDK for swat 4. Something that doesn't happen very often unfortunately.
Anyways besides that just some advice for you to stay away from any career reviewing games professionally because you saying "peice of shit console game" doesn't really further your point and makes you seem pretty immature, adolescent even...especially when you are accusing ppl who like the game of that same thing, haha. It's pretty humorous really.
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Feb 2006 19:55 Post subject: |
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Since all you can do is insult instead of posting valid points I recommend you get back to Counter Strike you fanboy of crappy games, lol.
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| Posted: Wed, 1st Feb 2006 21:59 Post subject: |
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| The Rat wrote: | | Since all you can do is insult instead of posting valid points I recommend you get back to Counter Strike you fanboy of crappy games, lol. |
Since your basicly been insulting from your first post in this thread and now complaining people are doing that to yourself I really got to ask this question:
Your like 15 right?!!!
And P.S
I saw alot more valid points in peoples reply to you that I saw in your posts which was nothing but cs fanboys, bubblegum yuk, *replace with useless junk that teens that got nothing interresting to say*
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