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 Posted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2005 07:24 Post subject: |
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FFS! that's the stick that broke the camel back!
fucking starforce is shoving their nose every hole, 90% of the games recently were protected by starforce and because of that only 10% of who tried to activate them actually sucseed
we need some working crack for starforce.. and fast. and what you brought here with sfcure is no crack at all, the fact that i need to disconnect my CD reader cables in order to play is horrofying , because i use CD's a lot, specially for backup.
and even that.. only 10% of us know what is SLAVE or PRIMARY SLAVE. well.. i don't know, i don't know if i got "SSCI" drive or "IDE" drive. i once tried to disable one of the primrary slaves and resulted in blue screen and after i restarted i noticed speed like
486 even less until i reactivated it
daemon tools was supposed to be that working crack.. but .. it got delayed in 14 days. and let me guess.. The Movies ! will also be out in starforce protection.. so i need to wait another week to the game i waited aobut a year.. it's nothing but.. i got some important test on the 15.11 and i wanted to have some fun before it.
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aum
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| Posted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2005 09:08 Post subject: |
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Why you have to wait?
Just go to the store and buy it.
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miragui
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| Posted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2005 09:46 Post subject: |
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Still I like real cracks no starshit on my system.
i7 3770k, GTX980, 16GB Ram, SSD Raid0, Internet 3rd world shit not worth mentioning
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| Posted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2005 10:58 Post subject: |
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| miragui wrote: | | Still I like real cracks no starshit on my system. |
True. We've become just too lazy.
11th "Thou shalt not flash"
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Parallax_
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| Posted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2005 12:20 Post subject: |
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People are lazy too. Some are so lazy that they don't even bother to read the nfo, screaming then for a serial in some DC hub's mainchat. A quick couple hours of google search and everybody should know how to get a SF game working. If that's too hard, then by the game. Too bad the money will go more to the publisher and not to the actual developer.
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| Posted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2005 13:30 Post subject: |
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| itay390 wrote: | | The Movies ! will also be out in starforce protection |
Activision = Safedisk 4
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This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world domination.
Will the Swedish ever learn to play football with 11 players only?
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| Posted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2005 13:40 Post subject: |
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I can understand people whining about this starforce shite
but the reason its there is to stop ----PIRACY----
The games are just to fucking expensive, if they droped the price then more people would be able to afford and buy the Games...
Not only that but the starforce drivers (to what i have read) mess up systems,,,, but not happened to me personaly........
Someone else said on this forum that been able to dl the games at least give you time to try out the games and if they were affordable you would go out and buy the ones you liked....
anyway ill just wait for Daemon Tools 4 comes out CANT WAIT
35 gig of starforce games on my drive allready.......................
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| Posted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2005 13:58 Post subject: |
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well anyhow noone seem to be able to get past the SF protection for this game.. not even the nfo instructions work.
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| Posted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2005 14:05 Post subject: |
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| Midhaven wrote: | | well anyhow noone seem to be able to get past the SF protection for this game.. not even the nfo instructions work. |
Not tried yet...
Ive had some luck with some of the other starforce games
but there is one thing i wont do and that is to disconect my ide drives every time i play a game.......
Ill just have a bit of patience and wait..........
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| Posted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2005 14:24 Post subject: |
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| waltgill wrote: | | Midhaven wrote: | | well anyhow noone seem to be able to get past the SF protection for this game.. not even the nfo instructions work. |
Not tried yet...
Ive had some luck with some of the other starforce games
but there is one thing i wont do and that is to disconect my ide drives every time i play a game.......
Ill just have a bit of patience and wait.......... |
I don't like disconnecting my ide cable either, but I fear that it will be the only way to get this release working. If you don't unplug the cd you will keep geting message "Please insert disc into another drive" even if you use SF nightmare, but when you unplug it sais "Unable to identify disc located in drive".
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| Posted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2005 17:07 Post subject: |
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My problem is that ive decided not to support software using starforce in any way. I dont wanna spend my money on a game thats released with it, and i wont even install that shit on my 'puter.
With the increased numbers of SF protected games these days, it cuts me away from many good games *cries*
But the only language the publishers understands are the one spoken by the wallet.
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| Posted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2005 18:21 Post subject: |
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I do everything it says to do, get no errors, but when I finally try to start the game it hangs on Checking disc....
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| Posted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2005 19:42 Post subject: |
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| immylatus wrote: | | I do everything it says to do, get no errors, but when I finally try to start the game it hangs on Checking disc.... |
No.. It doesn't hang. I did the same thing, but when it finishes checking it just sais the disc can't be identified. I think there are 2 sets of this release, on wich includes the tools and one without them. Going to try and another site to get it from. Just seems so strange, some ppl get the game running without any fuzz and some do everything and the game still won't run. All I can think of is that there is a copy of this release wich isn't working.. But what do know.
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Parallax_
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| Posted: Wed, 2nd Nov 2005 23:13 Post subject: |
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| Midhaven wrote: | | ust seems so strange, some ppl get the game running without any fuzz and some do everything and the game still won't run |
That even happens in the retail version! This is due to the random shit that is called Starforce.
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| Posted: Thu, 3rd Nov 2005 06:22 Post subject: |
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Does anyone know of a forum wich discusses problems with sfcure?
From what I can tell, sfcure doesn't do shit to starforce on my computer. Isn't it supposed to block SF?
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| Posted: Thu, 3rd Nov 2005 12:49 Post subject: |
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I'm trying to get this working but it seems i'm missing a file. I have amd64bit chip so im supposed to use sfcure_x64 instead of !setup.bat but i cannot see it contained the the zip file sfcure01h.zip. Do i just try using !setup.bat anyways or do i definately need the _x64 alternative? any help much appreciated, TIA
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Martar
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| Posted: Thu, 3rd Nov 2005 13:56 Post subject: |
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*racism removed ... 2 day ban *
- aggy
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| Posted: Thu, 3rd Nov 2005 16:17 Post subject: |
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as i posted in the other forum:
I got it working without much trouble... from a post I made elsewhere...
woah, that wasn't hard to get it running!?
ok heres what *I* did and it worked like a charm. NO SFNIGHTMARE INVOLVED (!!!) [or well, maybe, depends if it survives reboots or not]
*AT ANY STEP REMOVE THE DATA CABLE FROM YOUR DVD BURNER* (i have just one, a plextor burner)
Patch X3 to 1.2
Remove all starforce crap using their removal tool, reboot since it asks.
Come back, install sfcure "0.3" (i.e. run the setup, so it installs the service), then reboot.
Once you're back:
a) get rid of daemon tools (just its virtual drives and exit it if its running. i did not uninstall it). UNSURE if this was necessary but this was necessary sinec I used d-tools to install it from "G" drive and I wanted that free for...
b) use alcohol 120% latest WITH RPMS EMULATION ON mounting the image
To play the game, start the sfcure service (!start) and then run it! EDIT: Of course the game will reinstall starforce at this point, and may even ask for a reboot. Let it do so, after the reboot start the sfcure service, and run the game!
I did at some point in my trials run sfnightmare but I have NOT run it since my last reboot and guess what, x3 loads!
Now I'm most likely still going to buy it, but this will let me try it out in the meantime. I went to the main menu and OMG it looked laggy but we'll see...
YIKES! Lag is a kind word... P4 2.4Ghz, 1Gig Ram, Radeon 9700. Imho its unplayable at the moment. Sigh.
EDIT: Final note: Like someone else said, the game will launch properly... like 1 in 2 times or something. Sometimes the checking disc prompt will hang. In that case I actually kill protect.exe then X3.exe and wait until all processes calm down (cpu stops being pegged) then just try again. It goes through eventually.
-- nforce people, i'd love to know if you think sfnightmare does permament changes (and thus it IS needed) or if its not needed, because i reboot and all i do is sfcure then run the game!
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| Posted: Thu, 3rd Nov 2005 18:05 Post subject: |
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| isthar wrote: | as i posted in the other forum:
I got it working without much trouble... from a post I made elsewhere...
woah, that wasn't hard to get it running!?
ok heres what *I* did and it worked like a charm. NO SFNIGHTMARE INVOLVED (!!!) [or well, maybe, depends if it survives reboots or not]
*AT ANY STEP REMOVE THE DATA CABLE FROM YOUR DVD BURNER* (i have just one, a plextor burner)
Patch X3 to 1.2
Remove all starforce crap using their removal tool, reboot since it asks.
Come back, install sfcure "0.3" (i.e. run the setup, so it installs the service), then reboot.
Once you're back:
a) get rid of daemon tools (just its virtual drives and exit it if its running. i did not uninstall it). UNSURE if this was necessary but this was necessary sinec I used d-tools to install it from "G" drive and I wanted that free for...
b) use alcohol 120% latest WITH RPMS EMULATION ON mounting the image
To play the game, start the sfcure service (!start) and then run it! EDIT: Of course the game will reinstall starforce at this point, and may even ask for a reboot. Let it do so, after the reboot start the sfcure service, and run the game!
I did at some point in my trials run sfnightmare but I have NOT run it since my last reboot and guess what, x3 loads!
Now I'm most likely still going to buy it, but this will let me try it out in the meantime. I went to the main menu and OMG it looked laggy but we'll see...
YIKES! Lag is a kind word... P4 2.4Ghz, 1Gig Ram, Radeon 9700. Imho its unplayable at the moment. Sigh.
EDIT: Final note: Like someone else said, the game will launch properly... like 1 in 2 times or something. Sometimes the checking disc prompt will hang. In that case I actually kill protect.exe then X3.exe and wait until all processes calm down (cpu stops being pegged) then just try again. It goes through eventually.
-- nforce people, i'd love to know if you think sfnightmare does permament changes (and thus it IS needed) or if its not needed, because i reboot and all i do is sfcure then run the game! |
if it involves plugging out the CD cables, as you said it does. it's useless
i have only 1 cd-reader/burner in my computer.. thereby i need to disconect it? ... than i could already run the game without your help. the only thing i don't want to do is disconnect the cables from the CD
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| Posted: Thu, 3rd Nov 2005 20:23 Post subject: |
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I even did the toughest installation, still won't work.
1. Modified boot.ini, /noexecute=optin to /execute=optin (read somewhere that this is needed on some AMD64 machines)
2. Removed all old SF files.
3. Rebooted
3. Unpluged DVD-reader
4. Installed SFcure_x64 since I have AMD64
5. Rebooted
6. Mounted ISO with D-tools (RPMS on)
7. Installed
8. Launched SFcure (!start.bat)
9. Launched game (Had to reboot to update SF drivers)
10. Launched SFcure (!start.bat) again
11. Launched SFnightmare (disable ch1, ch2, cd, ata, node. Read somewhere that if you have your discs on s-ata you'd have to disable ata aswell).
12. Launched game (Got stuck on checking disc, later Failed to identify the disc in the drive. Insert a licensed disc)
Now probably someone is going to say "why din't you do like the NFO instructions". I've tried that, and I've tried about 7 other ways to install, still won't work. Reason must be SFcure won't work proprely on my computer, anyone know why? or how to fix this?
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| Posted: Thu, 3rd Nov 2005 20:56 Post subject: |
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seems like it doesnt work on some machines.
admin could u tell me the reason why u deleted my post? just curios...pm please.
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| Posted: Fri, 4th Nov 2005 00:35 Post subject: |
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I DIN'T GIVE UP!
Told everyone that I did, but I decided WTF i've tried 10 diffrent instructions, why not try 11. =P
Here is what I did, step by step from clean installation. (removed alcohol and d-tools)
1. !!Apparently important!! Install Alcohol 120% !!latest version!! Select "Expert install" Don't install scsi driver!
2. Reboot
3. Edit boot.ini, change the line /noexecute=optin to /execute=optin. Then install SFcure (I used SFcure_x64 since I have an AMD64)
4. Reboot
5. Open alcohol, turn on all emulations, especially RMPS
6. Mount X3 and install
7. Execute game to update starforce drivers and reboot
8. Start SF nightmare. Disable node, disable CD, disable node, disable 'for me sec. master' (place where you have your CD/DVD set to), disable ATA (if you are using a serial ATA harddrive)
9. Run SFcure !Start.bat
10. Start the game and open a bottle of champagne!
If you still can't start the game, try to disable ch1 and ch2 aswell.
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Fri, 4th Nov 2005 02:08 Post subject: |
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OR
1.Install game via DT or Alcohol
2. Manually disable IDE drives
3. Start SFcure
4. Disable CD and Disable node in SFN
5. Play game
Oh, leave mounted in DT or Alcohol...either of which work fine.
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| Posted: Fri, 4th Nov 2005 08:09 Post subject: |
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| Midhaven wrote: | I DIN'T GIVE UP!
Told everyone that I did, but I decided WTF i've tried 10 diffrent instructions, why not try 11. =P
Here is what I did, step by step from clean installation. (removed alcohol and d-tools)
1. !!Apparently important!! Install Alcohol 120% !!latest version!! Select "Expert install" Don't install scsi driver!
2. Reboot
3. Edit boot.ini, change the line /noexecute=optin to /execute=optin. Then install SFcure (I used SFcure_x64 since I have an AMD64)
4. Reboot
5. Open alcohol, turn on all emulations, especially RMPS
6. Mount X3 and install
7. Execute game to update starforce drivers and reboot
8. Start SF nightmare. Disable node, disable CD, disable node, disable 'for me sec. master' (place where you have your CD/DVD set to), disable ATA (if you are using a serial ATA harddrive)
9. Run SFcure !Start.bat
10. Start the game and open a bottle of champagne!
If you still can't start the game, try to disable ch1 and ch2 aswell. |
if you disable S-ATA and your boot drive is S-ATA, your windows just freezes and crashes... (i tried that)
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| Posted: Fri, 4th Nov 2005 08:26 Post subject: |
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| alklas wrote: | | Midhaven wrote: | I DIN'T GIVE UP!
Told everyone that I did, but I decided WTF i've tried 10 diffrent instructions, why not try 11. =P
Here is what I did, step by step from clean installation. (removed alcohol and d-tools)
1. !!Apparently important!! Install Alcohol 120% !!latest version!! Select "Expert install" Don't install scsi driver!
2. Reboot
3. Edit boot.ini, change the line /noexecute=optin to /execute=optin. Then install SFcure (I used SFcure_x64 since I have an AMD64)
4. Reboot
5. Open alcohol, turn on all emulations, especially RMPS
6. Mount X3 and install
7. Execute game to update starforce drivers and reboot
8. Start SF nightmare. Disable node, disable CD, disable node, disable 'for me sec. master' (place where you have your CD/DVD set to), disable ATA (if you are using a serial ATA harddrive)
9. Run SFcure !Start.bat
10. Start the game and open a bottle of champagne!
If you still can't start the game, try to disable ch1 and ch2 aswell. |
if you disable S-ATA and your boot drive is S-ATA, your windows just freezes and crashes... (i tried that) |
Strange, didn't happen for me. I use a S-ATA drive as my boot drive. Infact I have to disable ATA to be able to play. Tho my computer freezes sometimes when I try to enable ATA. If you have an S-ATA disc I'm pretty sure you have to figure out a way to use the disable ATA option, otherwise you'll won't be able to start the game. Try to disable ch1, ch2, node and cd before you disable ATA.
edit: Make sure you have the ISO on C: .. Since the disable ATA option disables all your drives except your main boot drive.
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Ive got PLENTY of ther games to keep me busy until there is another way to get this release working.. So im not even sweating it right now. LOL
