| Page 1 of 2 |
Ronhrin
Banned
Posts: 6428
Location: Paradigms are changeable, reality is absolute.
|
 Posted: Mon, 5th Dec 2005 19:27 Post subject: the end of PC gaming!? |
|
 |
if starforce and upcomming cd/dvd protections win the battle and make it so hard to play a pc game that it just makes it unworthy to play, and with the upcomming new generation of consoles, maybe pc gaming will just reach an end with the software companys turing the attentions to consoles!
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Mon, 5th Dec 2005 19:30 Post subject: |
|
|
i hope not.
playing rpg's or fps with a controller instead of a keyboard sucks ass!!!
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Ronhrin
Banned
Posts: 6428
Location: Paradigms are changeable, reality is absolute.
|
| Posted: Mon, 5th Dec 2005 19:37 Post subject: |
|
|
yes, it is, but companys can only see the good old euros and dollars, and by ending with pc gaming at least they know they will sell more crappy consoles
He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither
- Benjamin Franklin - 1759
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Ronhrin
Banned
Posts: 6428
Location: Paradigms are changeable, reality is absolute.
|
| Posted: Mon, 5th Dec 2005 19:52 Post subject: |
|
|
I'm talking scene released games, and 70% of the PC players wouldn't even play if they had to buy the game
He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither
- Benjamin Franklin - 1759
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Ronhrin
Banned
Posts: 6428
Location: Paradigms are changeable, reality is absolute.
|
| Posted: Mon, 5th Dec 2005 20:29 Post subject: |
|
|
I remember that post, and I honestly believe those photos belong to the 30% minority I was talking about, with such a large number of games to choose, when they cannot play a starforce protected game they just download another one and forget the other until a proper release, if that release never comes, they just ignore that specific game, most people do that. all the guys that belongs to the 30% minority I was talking about and post on nforce would likely post their pictures on that thread.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Bigperm
Posts: 1908
Location: Alberta,Canada
|
| Posted: Mon, 5th Dec 2005 22:26 Post subject: |
|
|
Thats a huge generalization. Do you think all PC gamers download there games? NO. Even with how easy torrents are( fucking torrents grrr) alot of people cannot be bothered. Many people i know could download the game, but they buy it. Nothing beats an original.
And i also feel (I maybe to optimistic) that at least 50% of the leechers (Im not counting torrent noobs) still beleve in the general rules of the scene. And have not forgoten what this is all about. I buy every game i play more than once or twice, and im thankful that i can try the game, so i dont buy crap. I am also thankful that i can get many releases ahead of time, i hate waiting to try something just becasue EU got it first.
And with PC games now being harder to copy than consoles (next gen not included) i think stating the PC gaming scene is dieing is a false statement.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Mon, 5th Dec 2005 22:38 Post subject: |
|
|
PS that shit about ppl actually buying the games they like after theyve already downloaded and played them is the biggest load of BS ive ever heard
im sure that you and some others do it, im not doubting that, its just that you and some others are very very alone in this
very alone
it just looks like around 50 percent cuz everyone who actually does buy a game theyve already downloaded has to go around to forums yelling to the world about how honest they are
you dont see floods of posts saying "haha i love this game and i would have bought it but i downloaded it instead so fuck 'em!" cuz thats just not as cool in the scene as supporting the hard working game makers is.
trust me.... next to nobody with the knowledge to obtain and use buys any games unless they want to play them online
no disrespect, but that 50% should be a 2% or 3% if you ask me (which you didn't so ill shut up now)
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Ronhrin
Banned
Posts: 6428
Location: Paradigms are changeable, reality is absolute.
|
| Posted: Mon, 5th Dec 2005 22:49 Post subject: |
|
|
one thing is the "scene rules", and maybe some old school crackers might follow those rules, but nobody buys a game when they can have it for free, only the rich dudes that don't know what to do with the money, want to have the cd/dvd case with the lame instructions and box, after all most games cost something like €40 some are cheaper, some are more expensive, but in almost all Europe €40 is not a bargain, I'm not telling that because the games are expensive we should steal them, what I'm telling is the fact that almost nobody buys games.
He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither
- Benjamin Franklin - 1759
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Mon, 5th Dec 2005 23:12 Post subject: |
|
|
| Ronhrin wrote: | | one thing is the "scene rules", and maybe some old school crackers might follow those rules, but nobody buys a game when they can have it for free, only the rich dudes that don't know what to do with the money, want to have the cd/dvd case with the lame instructions and box, after all most games cost something like €40 some are cheaper, some are more expensive, but in almost all Europe €40 is not a bargain, I'm not telling that because the games are expensive we should steal them, what I'm telling is the fact that almost nobody buys games. |
What i am trying to say is that when Securom/Safedisc/Starforce will become REAL pain in the ass for crackers/clone groups/regular users (that day is near, you can feel it right now) the people will actually start buying games, that mean more games will be developed for PC. Of course you can always play unprotected games made by small developers, kiddie games etc. if you hate to pay for games 
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Mon, 5th Dec 2005 23:35 Post subject: |
|
|
| KrutojPoc wrote: | | Ronhrin wrote: | | one thing is the "scene rules", and maybe some old school crackers might follow those rules, but nobody buys a game when they can have it for free, only the rich dudes that don't know what to do with the money, want to have the cd/dvd case with the lame instructions and box, after all most games cost something like €40 some are cheaper, some are more expensive, but in almost all Europe €40 is not a bargain, I'm not telling that because the games are expensive we should steal them, what I'm telling is the fact that almost nobody buys games. |
What i am trying to say is that when Securom/Safedisc/Starforce will become REAL pain in the ass for crackers/clone groups/regular users (that day is near, you can feel it right now) the people will actually start buying games, that mean more games will be developed for PC. Of course you can always play unprotected games made by small developers, kiddie games etc. if you hate to pay for games |
Ya people said that when sf3 first came out, sure it was dead for a while but then everything got back to normal. Sure you gotta unplug your dvdrom, but hey its still free. Might as well buy an external enclosure and turn it off with the flick of a switch.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Mon, 5th Dec 2005 23:50 Post subject: |
|
|
PC game will not die , why becoz BILL G. would lost much $$$ so did you hear that he started to pay $$$$$ bucks to the game producers , YEAP you hear right to game producers to release games with a logo that tells us it will run under windows and Pc games are Better ?!?! , and Bill G. saw that many many games was only made for console SO he talks and maybe but it is said that Vista will have 7 versions and one of this versions is made especialy for Pc games hmmm so why is this so special well its so special becoz this one will have x-box drivers yup u hear right to plug they devices to the pc : controles , x-box live head set and other {wonders me what others ?} and the other thing is it will too run x-box games !!! , yeah some say wait a minute it will not run HELLLOOO hey we all ready have the first 64 bit procesor and powerfull cards then in consoles so it will work
(the same thing was said when they have made the pentium mmx procesors and the first PSX emulator that was simply a blast PSX games on your pc ) but wait and think why Bill G. whats to make this HELLLO every PC game is fucki*g cheap {some} but still cheap , console games have higher prices then pc so HAHAAHAHA more money for MR.GATES .
But you think its stupid  so why make x-box 360 , hellooo some people what only a console to play games / or watch movies on it and dont want to buy grafic cards and other stuff , yeah i know x-box has a HDD and other stuff .
I know this sound stupid ,
But for one minute think about it
becoz the same stuff was made with the psx {yeah we got a emu but not a fully working pc system }.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
TheNerd
Posts: 1025
Location: Israel
|
| Posted: Tue, 6th Dec 2005 01:10 Post subject: |
|
|
well i still believe that starforce days will end..sooner or later
My System:
CPU : AMD "Barton" 2500+.
Memory : 768MB DDR PC2100.
GFX : Nvidia 6600GT DDR3 128MB , AGPx8
M\B: Gigabyte GA-7VT600P-RZ MotherBoard
Sound: AC97 Realteck 5.1 ALC655 - Audio.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Tue, 6th Dec 2005 01:47 Post subject: Re: the end of PC gaming!? |
|
|
| Ronhrin wrote: | | if starforce and upcomming cd/dvd protections win the battle and make it so hard to play a pc game that it just makes it unworthy to play, and with the upcomming new generation of consoles, maybe pc gaming will just reach an end with the software companys turing the attentions to consoles! |
if u think that, begin to try crack the games.
others are doing that.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Tue, 6th Dec 2005 10:26 Post subject: |
|
|
Of course, so many more people download games than buy them *sigh*
Hate to point this out to you but console games are as if not more available online than PC games, and consoles themselves are sold at a loss so no games sold means no revenue which means no consoles at all.
Doesn't seem to have harmed them too much though does it?
Starforce also in the future will begin to eat babies I've heard.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Bigperm
Posts: 1908
Location: Alberta,Canada
|
| Posted: Tue, 6th Dec 2005 22:02 Post subject: |
|
|
| soc_hexum wrote: | PS that shit about ppl actually buying the games they like after theyve already downloaded and played them is the biggest load of BS ive ever heard
im sure that you and some others do it, im not doubting that, its just that you and some others are very very alone in this
very alone
it just looks like around 50 percent cuz everyone who actually does buy a game theyve already downloaded has to go around to forums yelling to the world about how honest they are
you dont see floods of posts saying "haha i love this game and i would have bought it but i downloaded it instead so fuck 'em!" cuz thats just not as cool in the scene as supporting the hard working game makers is.
trust me.... next to nobody with the knowledge to obtain and use buys any games unless they want to play them online
no disrespect, but that 50% should be a 2% or 3% if you ask me (which you didn't so ill shut up now) |
Well i disagree. I would say the ones in the know, sceners and ex sceners are more likely to support software companies, than the people with little or limited skill (Ie torrent users)
Xbox games are more available online than PC games. A certain XBOX newsgroup is the most popular newsgroup on usenet.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Sun, 11th Dec 2005 07:21 Post subject: |
|
|
Everything is just a monopoly game. blame it on companies such as EA, Ubisoft and so on, Microsoft just takes the oportunity to expand its marketing to a higher level that is making pc gamers belive xbox360 will be better, for me is nonsense. it is true that todays games cost a pain in the ass to make, the production values and research are extremely high i dont blame them for that, they just need to belive more on the PC market and lower their prices.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Sun, 11th Dec 2005 08:16 Post subject: |
|
|
| skidrow wrote: | i hope not.
playing rpg's or fps with a controller instead of a keyboard sucks ass!!! |
RPG is for controllers!
FPS = KEYBOARD.
console... you could buy a converter... use your keyboard instead...
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Sun, 11th Dec 2005 08:21 Post subject: |
|
|
Well starshit hasnt stopped advanced gamers from getting da gamez... sooner or later companies will have to admit defeat and will have to stop using starshit
1 and 2 are still amazing.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Sun, 11th Dec 2005 10:09 Post subject: |
|
|
| yuri999 wrote: | | Well starshit hasnt stopped advanced gamers from getting da gamez... sooner or later companies will have to admit defeat and will have to stop using starshit |
OMG do you really think that will happen?. Crackers could crack older versions of Securom and Safedisc in a few hours. But that didnt stop companies from using it as their main protection. Starforce is here to stay whether we like it or not.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Sun, 11th Dec 2005 10:47 Post subject: |
|
|
I do think things will get easier with the time, but because the crackers will get better and find better and easier ways to get pass protections, and not because the protections will get worse, because they hardly will.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Sun, 11th Dec 2005 15:54 Post subject: |
|
|
Starforce IS the end of piracy, because its too hard to crack, other protections got tougher too resently.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
Seron
Posts: 379
Location: swedenenenenenenene
|
| Posted: Sun, 11th Dec 2005 16:13 Post subject: |
|
|
Piracy will NEVER stop. The scene will NEVER die.
Think about that for a sec.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Sun, 11th Dec 2005 16:42 Post subject: |
|
|
Yeah right, never stop, but why oh why when I go to black market and cant find the new games disks there like before?
Piracy will never stop as long advanced pirates will buy new motherboards and stuff like that just to bypass the protection. But I guess 90% of people just download the SF game, install it, try to run it, it doesnt work, browse google for crack, then they delete the image. Then some of them buy the original.
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
| Posted: Sun, 11th Dec 2005 17:03 Post subject: |
|
|
Zis iz APOCALYPSE!!1 
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
| Page 1 of 2 |
All times are GMT + 1 Hour |
