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 Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 15:38 Post subject: Piracy is Keeping EndWar off the PC, says UbiSoft |
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Michael de Plater of Ubisoft tells Videogaming247 the reason that Tom Clancy's EndWar isn't coming out for the PC on the same day as the console versions is because of concerns about piracy:
“To be honest, if PC wasn’t pirated to hell and back, there’d probably be a PC version coming out the same day as the other two,” he said, talking of the voice-controlled RTS.
“But at the moment, if you release the PC version, essentially what you’re doing is letting people have a free version that they rip off instead of a purchased version. Piracy’s basically killing PC.”
We asked if piracy was the main reason to keep EndWar off PC.
“Yeah, at the time of release,” he said. “You know, the level of piracy that you get with the PC just cannibalizes the others, because people just steal that version.”
http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/10/08/ubisoft-creative-director-piracys-basically-killing-pc/
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Pey
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 15:42 Post subject: |
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I´m getting tired of these shitty statements.
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 15:51 Post subject: |
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no want's their horribly lack of any real development on PC anyways
I wish all their games would stay the fuck off PC
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 15:52 Post subject: |
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piracy rigght..
and nothing to do with the fact that there will be RTSs that will wipe the floor with this consolised game..
red alert 3, starcraft 2, dawn of war 2...
they just know that their hyped little game has no real chance compared to even one of the titles above..
but yeah.. piracy is the main reason..
Per aspera ad astra
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 15:55 Post subject: |
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Ah poor guy, maybe I should send him the 360 version burned to a dual layer once it gets released.
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thudo
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 15:58 Post subject: |
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Yeah usual argument. It is stupidly-easy nowadays with Torrent to get anything now. Bah.. no more days of being a "privileged downloaded with exclusive private access" -- now any ache-faced basement-dwelling vamp can acquire anything. There is no real challenge anymore in the acquisition of your software -- its literally spoon-fed to you. Meh..
Well he does have a point although Xbox360 games are now becoming quite exploited now on the net (although I would suspect 95% of the entire 360 market buy their games as normally you have to be a geek/have lots of disposable time in order to pirate 360 stuff).
Ah well.. like the World Economy of 2008, many experts saw this coming years in advance.. not like the current state of PC affairs was unexpected based on where Xbox and the latest console systems were taking gaming in general.
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JBeckman
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 16:06 Post subject: |
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Though there are extra costs associated with a console release, i don't know if it adds up though.
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 16:07 Post subject: |
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maybe we should open a stick thread where all of this arguments and "news" could be collected, so we don't end up with another 20 bazillion threads about the same BS
and the counter-arguments are known to most as well, so the usual, indeed. 
last game i "got my hands on" was stalker clear sky and i wouldn't have bought that bug ridden matress anyway (at least, not yet - might still buy it)
last console game i got was saint row 2 (and since i own the first one and seriously like this, i'm gonna buy it once it's out)
so bottom line, a game i deem worthy, i buy, a game i don't, i pirate.
i don't think that pirates in the way of "aaar! me pirate whatever i get me hands on!" are the norm, they are not, right? ^^
"...do what you want cause a pirate is free..." 
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 16:07 Post subject: |
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WaldoJ
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 16:12 Post subject: |
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we should go to ubiforums and post torrent links for every console game they got. Lol. Pc piracy. Lol.
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 16:15 Post subject: |
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| FISKER_Q wrote: |
Though there are extra costs associated with a console release, i don't know if it adds up though. |
Yup, $15 difference goes to M$ or $ony. Third party companies must pay for everything from games, wheels to gamepads a licence to console maker.
On the other hand I kinda agree with de Plater on their reason. And I bet that other publisher do the same also.
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 16:20 Post subject: |
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| WaldoJ wrote: | | we should go to ubiforums and post torrent links for every console game they got. Lol. Pc piracy. Lol. |
I got banned from epic's forums for something like that...except I was showing people how to play gears of war with hamachi. They claimed everyone who uses hamachi are pirates only |
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 16:30 Post subject: |
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Funny enough, Microsoft says the only reason they don't release console titles at the same time on the PC is because of lost sales. People would rather buy the PC version over the console version of a game if they have the choice.
Welcome to the Politically Correct States of America.
Please turn your mind in to the nearest oppressed minority pressure group.
It will be returned to you once we've decided what you can think.
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 16:35 Post subject: |
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| SpykeZ wrote: | | WaldoJ wrote: | | we should go to ubiforums and post torrent links for every console game they got. Lol. Pc piracy. Lol. |
I got banned from epic's forums for something like that...except I was showing people how to play gears of war with hamachi. They claimed everyone who uses hamachi are pirates only |
yeah but if we all swarm ubi forums and just post torrent links to their top games... won't matter if we get banned.  It'll take about an hour+ for them to delete them. And within that hour a ton of kids will see them. We can also add a message saying pc piracy is dead... long live console piracy or something. 
I mean, aren't console games pirated 10x easier than pc games?
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Pey
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 16:38 Post subject: |
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Let´s gather a handful of people and post then lol.
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 16:38 Post subject: |
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Why is it that the ONLY people who say piracy is NOT killing pc gaming are pirates? Getting warez 8-10 years ago on the PC was not commonplace. Now with torrent, every retard kid has access to free games. He wants to get some mp3 and finds he can also get games. FACT.
Funny how those who never buy games say that not buying games is not killing pc gaming. Makes sense to me. Just like NOT buying american cars is NOT killing american auto industry. Makes sense to retards.
hey I got an idea, LETS get a handful of pirates to post on some company forums how not buying their games is making them money.
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 16:39 Post subject: |
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This shit comes from Ubisoft? The same company that went to gamecopyworld, downloaded the reloaded crack for Rainbow Six and released it as a 'fix'  oh the humanity. Maybe I got this all wrong, maybe reloaded IS Ubisoft so it was their fix.
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 16:41 Post subject: |
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| Pey wrote: | | Let´s gather a handful of people and post then lol. |
I'll do it in a moment!  |
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 16:44 Post subject: |
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| cybtropic wrote: | Why is it that the ONLY people who say piracy is NOT killing pc gaming are pirates? Getting warez 8-10 years ago on the PC was not commonplace. Now with torrent, every retard kid has access to free games. He wants to get some mp3 and finds he can also get games. FACT.
Funny how those who never buy games say that not buying games is not killing pc gaming. Makes sense to me. Just like NOT buying american cars is NOT killing american auto industry. Makes sense to retards.
hey I got an idea, LETS get a handful of pirates to post on some company forums how not buying their games is making them money. |
I pirate games frequently but if a game is actually WORTH buying i buy it and so do pretty much everyone i know so if gamedevelopers spend more time making their games worthwhile they would make more money.
Take Blizzard games for example, i've bought every single Warcraft, Diablo and SC game (well, only 1 sc so far since 2 isn't released yet) after downloading them and found them good enough to buy.
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 16:49 Post subject: |
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| SpaceWiz wrote: | | cybtropic wrote: | Why is it that the ONLY people who say piracy is NOT killing pc gaming are pirates? Getting warez 8-10 years ago on the PC was not commonplace. Now with torrent, every retard kid has access to free games. He wants to get some mp3 and finds he can also get games. FACT.
Funny how those who never buy games say that not buying games is not killing pc gaming. Makes sense to me. Just like NOT buying american cars is NOT killing american auto industry. Makes sense to retards.
hey I got an idea, LETS get a handful of pirates to post on some company forums how not buying their games is making them money. |
I pirate games frequently but if a game is actually WORTH buying i buy it and so do pretty much everyone i know so if gamedevelopers spend more time making their games worthwhile they would make more money.
Take Blizzard games for example, i've bought every single Warcraft, Diablo and SC game (well, only 1 sc so far since 2 isn't released yet) after downloading them and found them good enough to buy. |
Yea thats you, for every person like you there are 10 kids that pirate regardless of whether they played the game for a week straight or not. On the other hand I have not bought a game in a LONG time. If I can pirate it, I didn't buy it. Only recently have I started buying games. The difference is I don't spread BS that piracy is not killing pc gaming. I know it is killing PC gaming because I played games for a long time and never bought them. At least I don't try to justify it by BSing that it doesn't effect pc gaming.
if you pirate games YOU ARE STEALING. PERIOD.
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 16:49 Post subject: |
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well at least they only have delayed the PC version of END WAR not some crap excuse like lucasarts with the 4000 $ PC...i'm fine with a couple of months extra to wait...the swetter the game(i hope)
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 16:51 Post subject: |
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I'm going to say the unpopular thing, which is they are probably right - if they release it on PC together with console, it will probably sell less. But lets see why. I have seen only handful of games released the last few years that were worthy of purchase. Why? Targeted for dumb US fratbois, bad porting, too short... You name it.
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Racecar101
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 16:55 Post subject: |
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I'd hazard a guess that lower than 3% of pc owners pirate games, I am sick of hearing comments like this from devs.
The real truth is that they don't make games for the love or art anymore and are only interested in making money from crap as low an outlay products.
So making games for consoles makes more sense well maybe the same % that pirate pc games Pirate console games too.
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 16:55 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | I'm going to say the unpopular thing, which is they are probably right - if they release it on PC together with console, it will probably sell less. But lets see why. I have seen only handful of games released the last few years that were worthy of purchase. Why? Targeted for dumb US fratbois, bad porting, too short... You name it. |
ubi doesn't know what their doing period, they're lazy,and inexperienced and mainly, THEY DONT CARE, if they cared they wouldn't let they're last good game be chaos theory
they wouldn't have utterly DESTROYED Ghost recon and rainbow six
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 16:55 Post subject: |
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That is absolutely not the reason, as ALL Game developers have a license fee to pay,hence the steeper price.
Im so fucking sick of people trying to justify their piracy reason.
its simple PC piracy has got wayyy out of hand. Anybody can dl a torrent of their fav pc and play it almost straight away.
As we all know console piracy is a alot more hassle to you average joe.
i warez game and i can admit that im part of the problem why PC games are dieing out.
Jeeez
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 16:58 Post subject: |
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Who's trying to justifty it? The reason PC is dieing is because devs stopped making games worth buying, they port, they simplify it to be boring, they put no effort in anything, they make WWII games
Put it this way, if every developer treated their customers the way the witcher crew has, games would sell like it did.
try to argue all you want but it's the truth up and down the road.
all in all, UBI can fuck off, their just still soar they got boycotted to hell when they released chaos theory with star force, they haven't given a damn about PC gaming SINCE so why does this less educated "news" from them make a difference. OH IT WONT BE ON PC, it'd just been some shit fucking port anyways bugged to hell and make all the owners vote for a fucking patch anyways.
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Racecar101
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| Posted: Wed, 8th Oct 2008 17:00 Post subject: |
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Sorry but your argument falls flat on it's ass, the same amount that pirate pc games pirate console games I guarantee it's in the same ball park.
It's the same as the film industry, making films for the love of the art is dying out it's all about making money first.
Lost movie revenue dwarfs gaming lost revenue but you don't see film companies crying about it saying were not releasing it on dvd.
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