Article on Vista's Beta2 and PC Games
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bill_the_one




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th May 2006 13:15    Post subject: Article on Vista's Beta2 and PC Games
U'll find here :

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1968995,00.asp

an interesting article from extremetech.com on the first trials they made with games on the Vista's Beta2.

I especially like this sentence about StarForce : Laughing

extremetech.com wrote:
Its reliance on a hidden Ring 0 driver causes a compatibility problem with Vista that prevents games using StarForce from loading


And one part of the conclusion is not bad at all :

extremetech.com wrote:

This may be a moot point in the future. Both Ubisoft and CDV, the two largest users of StarForce protection, have announced they're dropping the controversial content protection scheme.


... very funny ! Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue, 30th May 2006 14:46    Post subject:
Ah so that why they dropped it. Hehe. They looked at the future and though, god we will have to patch all our SF games to make them run on new os.
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TiTaN_KGB




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th May 2006 14:59    Post subject:
Not really. SF is now working on Windows Vista drivers that should be compatible with all the games.

CDV is not dropping SF.
That info is right from the SF office.


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GexX2




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th May 2006 15:19    Post subject:
TiTaN_KGB wrote:
Not really. SF is now working on Windows Vista drivers that should be compatible with all the games.

CDV is not dropping SF.
That info is right from the SF office.
Hmm... I would rather believe Starforce than the company in question. Is that what you are saying?...... Yes they are working on vista compatible drivers. thats expected. But when a company's cheif tech officer says they are going to use tages, I believe the company.
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CDV's new system, TAGES, will first be integrated into the retail release of Glory of the Roman Empire, scheduled to ship on June 26 across North America, and CDV "will continue to integrate TAGES on a case-by-case basis." CDV had recently come under fire for including StarForce on the retail version of its Ubersoldier game and City Life demo, despite some previous indications that it had dropped the system. Talking to the Game Overdrive website at the time, CDV U.S. Director of PR and Marketing Ben Halpern commented: "CDV works with many different developers and often we have to use what copy protection those partners wish to use or that they have already integrated in products that have been months and often years in production.
However, CDV's Chief Technology Officer, Teut Weidemann, commented of this latest announcement, making it clear that the company had changed its overall strategy: "We believe that TAGES will provide a sensible balance between protecting CDV's intellectual property rights against piracy, while at the same time minimizing the restrictions experienced by legitimate owners of our products."

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PostPosted: Tue, 30th May 2006 18:12    Post subject: Re: Article on Vista's Beta2 and PC Games
bill_the_one wrote:
U'll find here :

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1697,1968995,00.asp

an interesting article from extremetech.com on the first trials they made with games on the Vista's Beta2.

I especially like this sentence about StarForce : Laughing

extremetech.com wrote:
Its reliance on a hidden Ring 0 driver causes a compatibility problem with Vista that prevents games using StarForce from loading


And one part of the conclusion is not bad at all :

extremetech.com wrote:

This may be a moot point in the future. Both Ubisoft and CDV, the two largest users of StarForce protection, have announced they're dropping the controversial content protection scheme.


... very funny ! Very Happy Very Happy

Im already talking with Starforce about support for Vista. I will give more info when I find myself some time.


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PostPosted: Tue, 30th May 2006 18:15    Post subject:
TiTaN_KGB wrote:
Not really. SF is now working on Windows Vista drivers that should be compatible with all the games.

CDV is not dropping SF.
That info is right from the SF office.

Just because you're russian dosn't mean you have to love SF.
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PostPosted: Tue, 30th May 2006 19:04    Post subject:
deelix wrote:
TiTaN_KGB wrote:
Not really. SF is now working on Windows Vista drivers that should be compatible with all the games.

CDV is not dropping SF.
That info is right from the SF office.

Just because you're russian dosn't mean you have to love SF.


Mmmhh, seems to me that a flame war which had just started in another thread is going to restart here .... Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed, 31st May 2006 12:58    Post subject:
Who the f...k are these guys who love Starforce??? show them to me so that I can give them a piece of my mind please..


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PostPosted: Wed, 31st May 2006 13:46    Post subject:
deelix wrote:
TiTaN_KGB wrote:
Not really. SF is now working on Windows Vista drivers that should be compatible with all the games.

CDV is not dropping SF.
That info is right from the SF office.

Just because you're russian dosn't mean you have to love SF.


I never said i love starforce. I am just close friends with a starforce employee.

I am just able to get information from starforce. If you dont want, i wont post anything related to starforce.

CDV is going to use tages and starforce. Strforce isn't going to be in each cdv title, but it will not go out completely
And if you, or anyone else have something against me, or the fact that i am russian, sort it out with me in PM.

And just because Russia is the largest country on earth and one of the most richest doesnt mean ppl from somewhere like Norway or some other tiny island have to hate us.


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PostPosted: Wed, 31st May 2006 16:54    Post subject:
TiTaN_KGB wrote:
deelix wrote:
TiTaN_KGB wrote:
Not really. SF is now working on Windows Vista drivers that should be compatible with all the games.

CDV is not dropping SF.
That info is right from the SF office.

Just because you're russian dosn't mean you have to love SF.


And just because Russia is the largest country on earth and one of the most richest doesnt mean ppl from somewhere like Norway or some other tiny island have to hate us.


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PostPosted: Wed, 31st May 2006 17:04    Post subject:
TiTaN_KGB wrote:

And just because Russia is the largest country on earth and one of the most richest doesnt mean ppl from somewhere like Norway or some other tiny island have to hate us.


Don't have anything against you or russia but reading what you just wrote there DOES make it sound like you have a wild imagination going on there inside your head......richest??...lol yeah....sure....ahmm....ok
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PostPosted: Wed, 31st May 2006 17:19    Post subject:
one of the richest? this is odd.

there are many VERY rich people (mostly in Moscow and Petersburg).
but most of the usual people earn below average wages comparing to other european countries.. also russia has shitaload bandits, so i never go there Laughing
edit: ofc Putin came and eliminated most of the mafia (so called) quetly (it wasn't official tho).

in russia, there aren't much democracy :/
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PostPosted: Wed, 31st May 2006 17:22    Post subject:
Russia is only good for singing lesbians and Vodka.
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PostPosted: Wed, 31st May 2006 17:23    Post subject:
TiTaN_KGB wrote:
deelix wrote:
TiTaN_KGB wrote:
Not really. SF is now working on Windows Vista drivers that should be compatible with all the games.

CDV is not dropping SF.
That info is right from the SF office.

Just because you're russian dosn't mean you have to love SF.


I never said i love starforce. I am just close friends with a starforce employee.

I am just able to get information from starforce. If you dont want, i wont post anything related to starforce.

CDV is going to use tages and starforce. Strforce isn't going to be in each cdv title, but it will not go out completely
And if you, or anyone else have something against me, or the fact that i am russian, sort it out with me in PM.

And just because Russia is the largest country on earth and one of the most richest doesnt mean ppl from somewhere like Norway or some other tiny island have to hate us.

It was just a sad joke mate. And some places in Russia is sure great, i just know there are lots of shit there too. So in general i think tis a poor country. Sad No offense, but after watching Lilja 4-ever i got a bad view of Russia.
But as you said its the biggest in the world. And btw you made me play that chronicles of riddick game, nice review Smile

Btw Norway is not an island :'(
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PostPosted: Wed, 31st May 2006 17:42    Post subject:
TiTaN_KGB wrote:

And just because Russia is the largest country on earth and one of the most richest


Laughing Laughing Laughing Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad

Your average people make 35.000 KR (swedish valuta) In a YEAR!

Sure theres some people that got shitloads of money.. But the average man/woman In your country doesnt! Just look at all the russian prostitutes..


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PostPosted: Wed, 31st May 2006 17:44    Post subject:
Spun[k] wrote:
Just look at all the russian prostitutes..


yep, just look into what Spun[k] has turned after joining the prostitution Razz
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PostPosted: Wed, 31st May 2006 17:44    Post subject:
Spun[k] wrote:
TiTaN_KGB wrote:

And just because Russia is the largest country on earth and one of the most richest


Laughing Laughing Laughing Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad Crying or Very sad

Your average people make 35.000 KR (swedish valuta) In a YEAR!

Sure theres some people that got shitloads of money.. But the average man/woman In your country doesnt! Just look at all the russian prostitutes..

Where's the puke smilie?
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PostPosted: Wed, 31st May 2006 18:12    Post subject:
TiTaN_KGB wrote:


And just because Russia is the largest country on earth and one of the most richest doesnt mean ppl from somewhere like Norway or some other tiny island have to hate us.


Norway is a island???





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PostPosted: Wed, 31st May 2006 18:50    Post subject:
so Starforce is a Russian company? wow!
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PostPosted: Wed, 31st May 2006 19:17    Post subject:
People from russia\poland\lithaunia come here for work... so i don't think the russian goverment are too generous, if they have so much money
Maybe we are some 100 mill less people Rolling Eyes but anyway...

Only country in the world with more money than Norway (per capital) is Luxembourg

So the life is: Norwegian income and live in a nice and cheap country, like poland Smile
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PostPosted: Wed, 31st May 2006 19:18    Post subject:
hiatus_gsw wrote:
so Starforce is a Russian company? wow!


Have u been cryogenized these last years ?? Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed, 31st May 2006 19:26    Post subject:
bill_the_one wrote:
hiatus_gsw wrote:
so Starforce is a Russian company? wow!


Have u been cryogenized these last years ?? Laughing Laughing


I guess it seems weird cause Russia is like one of the leading country in piracy Razz
More than in any European country..
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PostPosted: Wed, 31st May 2006 20:54    Post subject:
madnessnaab wrote:
I guess it seems weird cause Russia is like one of the leading country in piracy Razz
More than in any European country..


For piracy, they can't beat Asians ; they're just unbeatable ! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed, 31st May 2006 21:03    Post subject:
bill_the_one wrote:
madnessnaab wrote:
I guess it seems weird cause Russia is like one of the leading country in piracy Razz
More than in any European country..


For piracy, they can't beat Asians ; they're just unbeatable ! Very Happy


Ya you are right, those damn chinesse they can duplicate anything. Razz


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PostPosted: Wed, 31st May 2006 21:32    Post subject:
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one of the richest? this is odd.
in russia, there aren't much democracy :/


The country is rich in natural resourses such as oil, gold, diamond and other precious rocks.

Although it may seem people earn less in Russia compared to USofA or Europe, the cost of living in Russia is far less than, say in germany.

Id say and equivelent of 2500 euros in Germany/Per month would eqal around 600-700 euros in Russia. And i mean equal as in the amount of goods you can buy.

Petrol .de - 2 euros or somethin, .ru 0.25 per litre
Bottle of water 2 euros 0.25 in ru
Bread 3-10 euros, russia 0.2 to 1 euro.

What do you mean little democracy?
The real situation and the situation thats told on CNN and BCC differs. And not by a small amount.

SOme ppl still think chechens wanted out of russia.......lol

And i am aware Norway isnt an island. I was just making a point.

Also please do not confuse russians to ukranian, lithuanian, latvian, moldavian or whatever. Most of your prostitutes come from there, after being worked on in .ru.


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PostPosted: Wed, 31st May 2006 21:59    Post subject:
Ok, but from all statistics iv seen russia aint that far from lithaunia, latvia etc.

So some places suffer. And we dig up more oil than you guys Razz
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PostPosted: Wed, 31st May 2006 22:31    Post subject:
russia and democracy?
please, these words don't mix..

btw..this topic should be renamed or smth. this has nothing to do with Vista Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed, 31st May 2006 22:36    Post subject:
And spunk is right, russian people earn like 16 year old would do here...
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PostPosted: Wed, 31st May 2006 22:38    Post subject:
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The country is rich in natural resourses such as oil, gold, diamond and other precious rocks.

When you say "rich" also mention "in resources" coz you might be missunderstood by other people. And people in Russia ARE poor. But in global context probably would be medium low in the list. Also Russia is hated by other countries not because its "rich" as you say, but because its insane GREED for lands, resourses and russian people brutality and mentality. Wait a sec.. im in PC Games Arena wht the..?
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PostPosted: Wed, 31st May 2006 22:56    Post subject:
Its no use if the country is rich, if the people suffer :/
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