New Rig - Suggestions Please!
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exon




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PostPosted: Fri, 28th Apr 2006 15:55    Post subject: New Rig - Suggestions Please!
I'm about to buy a new system. Here are the specs:

CPU - AMD 64 3800 Dual Core
MOBO - DFI Infinity NF4 SLI nForce 4
RAM - Corsair 2x1024MB 3200 CAS3
GFX CARD - EVGA e-Geforce 7900GT CO PCK 256MB

1) Should I change to a Dual core Intel?
3) Is this mobo better than Gigabyte's?
2) Should I get a better (way more expansive) GFX card, or maybe stick with this one, and when I can afford it, buy another for the SLI?
3) AMD doesn't support DDR2. Any big difference between DDR and DDR2?

Thanks in advance.
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[sYn]
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PostPosted: Sat, 29th Apr 2006 03:45    Post subject:
As always I say wait.. the new gear will be out in a few months and you will no doubt kick yourself Razz!

Dual-Core - Intel/AMD makes no difference.. one is better for gaming (AMD) and one for Media (INTEL) for now.. however this will change when the new chips come out in a few months.. intel has focused on Gaming while it is yet to see what AMD has to offer.. *shrug* WAAAIITTT Razz!

2) Depends, SLI has been proven to be good on multiple moniter setups (using the new matrox gadget) but doesnt seem to hold its own against cross fire.. I like NVIDIA personally.. but thats just me. Go with what you trust.

3) (4 in reality) DDR2 support will hit AMD with the next chip release.. so as I already said.. WAAAIITTT Razz
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exon




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PostPosted: Sat, 29th Apr 2006 05:28    Post subject:
I understand but a few months are too long for me. See, my brother's computer exploded (yes I'm not kidding) and I provided him with a lame P3 500MHz for the time being. Now I must buy a new rig ASAP so he can have my old one. The question is, should I really wait because the changes will be this dramatic and utilized to their full potential right from the beginning? Or maybe the rig above is sufficient and will last for 2 good years?
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[sYn]
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PostPosted: Sat, 29th Apr 2006 11:34    Post subject:
See, the current dual-core gear is first gen, so it hasnt really... "filled in" technology wise.. by that i mean it still has a way to go. If your that desperate you should look at AMD for gaming, the DDR2 probably wont be that big a deal.. personally I would go for a crossfire setup too, but I think everyone has seperate opinions with few facts on the GFX race at the moment.. maybe someone else can give you further advice.

I am certain though, that with the comming of the newer chips we will see some big changes.. Dual-Core wont simply be 2xnotsogreatchips we will see some real performance differences..
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exon




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PostPosted: Sat, 29th Apr 2006 13:36    Post subject:
How long is a few months? are we talking 2-3 or 5-6?
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Sublime




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PostPosted: Sat, 29th Apr 2006 15:39    Post subject:
Less than 3 I think. Summertime release probably.

they're gonna work from the off straight away because that's what they're designed to do, but imo if you're looking for a PC now it's not really worth such a wait, unless you're looking at lowering the costs of the system.

I had the same problem last year. Either buy now or wait. I just decided fuck it and bought the stuff. Not let me down since so I don't know what the problem is.

Now with the two companies releasing one thing after another, there's rarely a huge break in time before the next thing is released from either group, so just take your pick. You can always sell and upgrade (for a bit extra £$£$) in a few months if that's what you really want, and u just pay w/e money u've 'lost' on time with ur new PC :/ but everyday you waste waitin / decidin is pushin up the cost Razz i.e. £200 for 70 days, or £200 for 40 Wink


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PostPosted: Mon, 1st May 2006 06:26    Post subject:
Right well I just spoke to my bro who's now workin for acer not shuttle and he said that the new AMD's will be out next month but they're nowt special just has DDR2 support and a new socket (i think). And the intel core's are going to be kick arse and come out in Q3. He said the one's that came out at the start of this year for laptops are pushing onto an FX-60 anyway.

Looks like intel will rule once again.


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PostPosted: Mon, 1st May 2006 07:28    Post subject:
Still the new AMD socket 941 CPU's are going to be cheaper compared to their counterparts. The new socket is pure compatibility project. Anyway im personally going for the new line of AMD.


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PostPosted: Mon, 1st May 2006 10:12    Post subject:
Just keep that graphics card with that setup and you will be good to go for ages I would say Very Happy

I have a 3200+ 64 Venice, MSI Platinum Mobo, 2x512 Corsair 3200 XMS CAS2 Matched Ram Strips (Wish I went for 2x1gig strips now Sad ), XFX Factory Overclocked 7900GT and I can run the latest games on Full Settings no problem (Well except Oblivion, when I set to full settings on that I get about 25fps. I was told you are recommended to have 2gb Ram to run it on full settings so maybe thats why...)

Wouldnt go any higher than the 7900GT as It doesnt seem worth it, the next card up is quite alot more money Smile


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Sublime




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PostPosted: Mon, 1st May 2006 20:26    Post subject:
Mutantius wrote:
Still the new AMD socket 941 CPU's are going to be cheaper compared to their counterparts. The new socket is pure compatibility project. Anyway im personally going for the new line of AMD.


That's just it. There will be no counter-parts. The intel duo is far cheaper than an FX-60 at the moment too.

The new socket seems like a waste, but intel uses some chip shit, so even though it's the same socket it won't work in all mobo's (or somethin like that). Bringing out a new socket seems pointless to me, especially since 939 has only just come out.

To put it simply the new AMD's will be the same as they are now, with DDR2 which will make it slightly faster. The intel duo's already support DDR2 and are cheaper and on par (or very slightly under) than those out at the moment.

In 6 months the new intel's will kill AMD and they'll be left lagging behind.


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liansk




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PostPosted: Fri, 5th May 2006 20:04    Post subject:
wait for the summer - directx10 and pci-e2 gfx FTW!


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DarkReizo




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PostPosted: Sun, 7th May 2006 23:24    Post subject:
wth, are you guys forgetting about the core duo conroe intel chip? it slaughters every amd chip out there and its msrp is about 300$, just wait for that, trust me
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PostPosted: Mon, 8th May 2006 14:31    Post subject:
Sublime was partly reffering to Conroe DarkReizo. This is the cpu that after a beta test and not in its final build, managed to beat an overclocked FX60 AMD! And the price is not $300 but ~$500


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