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 Posted: Fri, 13th Apr 2007 04:08 Post subject: Fallout MMO or forfeit? |
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| Quote: | Bethesda Snags Fallout License
The Oblivion developer nabs the rights to the venerable RPG franchise.
by Micah Seff
April 12, 2007 - Industry news site, Gamasutra, is reporting that recent SEC filings indicate the purchase of the Fallout license by Bethesda Softworks. Bethesda is currently developing Fallout 3, the latest entry in the fan-favorite RPG game. The company purchased the franchise from its current owners, Interplay for $5.75 million.
Prior to this agreement, Bethesda had merely been licensing the IP from Interplay while working on its sequel to the cult-classic RPG series. Bethesda is purportedly "several years into the project" with no end in sight. Interplay is developing its own Fallout MMO, but under terms of the deal will be acting as licensee rather than owner. A special clause of the agreement states that Interplay must commence full-scale development on the title within 24 months of the date of this agreement or forfeit its rights to the license.
Additionally, Interplay has agreed that it will commercially launch the Fallout MMO within four years of the start of development or again forfeit its rights to the IP. If the game does indeed see the light of day, Interplay has agreed to pay 12% of the game's sales and subscription fees to Bethesda. |
source: http://pc.ign.com/articles/780/780262p1.html
only 4 years development time... don't think it will be a great MMO 
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| Posted: Fri, 13th Apr 2007 06:22 Post subject: |
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Damned if I want Fallout turned into another MMORPG where you spend your existance leveling up and a slave to the software.Much prefer Fallout the way that it was.
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Karmeck
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| Posted: Fri, 13th Apr 2007 09:20 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 13th Apr 2007 11:12 Post subject: |
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I guess selling the license was the only way to keep Interplay going...
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| Posted: Fri, 13th Apr 2007 11:14 Post subject: |
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So wait a minute, there will be one Fallout MMO developed by Interplay, and one Fallout RPG developed by Bethesda?
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| Posted: Fri, 13th Apr 2007 11:17 Post subject: |
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| Parallax_ wrote: | | So wait a minute, there will be one Fallout MMO developed by Interplay, and one Fallout RPG developed by Bethesda? |
That's right, but the MMO will also be under heavy Bethesda control coz:
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5.3.2 Interplay shall not offer or provide any products or services whose nature or quality does not comply with the quality standards of Bethesda. |
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| Posted: Fri, 13th Apr 2007 11:20 Post subject: |
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Ah, right. Well, still, I shit all over the MMO.
I'm all for the RPG though 
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| Posted: Fri, 13th Apr 2007 13:49 Post subject: |
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| BearishSun wrote: | | Quote: | | quality standards of Bethesda. |
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does not compute.
nothing good will come out of this....
interplay should just die and be gone, and bethsoft should keep to ruining their self-made franchise with mediocre sequels rather than killing off someone else's brainchild, and stealing their fame, since most bethsoft fanbois will start thinking that bethsoft made those legendary ancient fallouts everyone and their grandma is talking about....
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| Posted: Fri, 13th Apr 2007 18:26 Post subject: |
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Eww...
| Parallax_ wrote: | | So wait a minute, there will be one Fallout MMO developed by Interplay, and one Fallout RPG developed by Bethesda? |
LOL. I know. Bethesda should do the MMO, because its going to suck regardless, and Interplay should do the RPG, since Bethesda suck.
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| Posted: Fri, 13th Apr 2007 18:29 Post subject: |
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Well, I know the hardcore RPG crowd is hard to please. All they want is old-school RPGs ala Baldur's Gate, etc. But imo Oblivion is a great game and a great RPG
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| Posted: Fri, 13th Apr 2007 18:35 Post subject: |
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I think there won't be any MMORPG because the Fallout universe is popular only among a limited crowd, half of which probably despises MMORPGs. So they're not enough to make an audience.
Moreover, Fallout has a very specific setting unlike WoW which is basically generic fantasy. That's why it can't attract crowds of kids from all over the world.
And third, Fallout isn't known to be that popular in Asia, which is one of the most important markets for MMORPGs. And it certainly won't win over those coupla dozens MMORPGs already present there.
So, verdict: it's not profitable or lucrative to make such a specific MMORPG and I doubt any clever person would invest into it.
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| Posted: Fri, 13th Apr 2007 18:47 Post subject: |
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I think you are just proving my point for me
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| Posted: Fri, 13th Apr 2007 18:59 Post subject: |
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Oblivion is a time-waster. No depth at all. It's like there'd be no story if they didn't thrust picard in your face when you started it up to explain it all  . Don't get me wrong, I liked morrowind, and I'm not some old-school RPG whore, but I seriously doubt Bethesda's game development skills after Oblivion. I put up with the horrible optimization and the obvious issues that came with morrowind, and I upgraded my comp, and those went away. I can run Oblivion on the highest settings at 1024x768 at around ~28fps minimum and 70fps maximum outdoors. But this is only after MUCH MUCH tweaking. I had about 16 different ini backups at one time. I'm a graphics whore.
But the main problem I have with Bethesda is that most of their products have started out with an unholy amount of bug and glitches (daggerfall anyone?), that you don't see in MUCH better games. And most of them don't get fixed unless its by the community. Their modelers are incompetent at best, and retarded at worst. Anyone who decides it's necessary make something as simple as a ship's mast 13,000 poly's needs to be taken out into their backyard by their hair and beat over the face with a razor covered keyboard. And I'm pretty sure its not even their modelers. I read on the forums that they get graphic design companies to make their art for them.
And now, by the tone of the forums at elderscrolls.com, Bethesda are playing dumb about the id bug affecting 360 users. Not sure why as they already released a patch for the Pc version, which was unnecessary in the first place (already a fully working community made patch - not beta), and could easily adapt the code to work on the 360.
To summarize, Oblivion's pretty, if you want to fight for it, or spend $600 on it. Oblivion's story is like a hollowed out twinkie with no white stuff, and Bethesda have horrible devs. This is all in my opinion of course, and you're free to disagree.
And thats why I'm sure the Fallout RPG will suck. If it doesn't, I'll be so fucking happy, cause I loved Fallout 1 and 2. But I have serious doubts. And the fallout MMO is going to suck anyway, because, really. Can anyone here imagine a Fallout MMO that would actually work out?
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| Posted: Fri, 13th Apr 2007 19:08 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 13th Apr 2007 19:18 Post subject: |
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| GexX2 wrote: | Oblivion is a time-waster. No depth at all. It's like there'd be no story if they didn't thrust picard in your face when you started it up to explain it all . Don't get me wrong, I liked morrowind, and I'm not some old-school RPG whore, but I seriously doubt Bethesda's game development skills after Oblivion. I put up with the horrible optimization and the obvious issues that came with morrowind, and I upgraded my comp, and those went away. I can run Oblivion on the highest settings at 1024x768 at around ~28fps minimum and 70fps maximum outdoors. But this is only after MUCH MUCH tweaking. I had about 16 different ini backups at one time. I'm a graphics whore.
But the main problem I have with Bethesda is that most of their products have started out with an unholy amount of bug and glitches (daggerfall anyone?), that you don't see in MUCH better games. And most of them don't get fixed unless its by the community. Their modelers are incompetent at best, and retarded at worst. Anyone who decides it's necessary make something as simple as a ship's mast 13,000 poly's needs to be taken out into their backyard by their hair and beat over the face with a razor covered keyboard. And I'm pretty sure its not even their modelers. I read on the forums that they get graphic design companies to make their art for them.
And now, by the tone of the forums at elderscrolls.com, Bethesda are playing dumb about the id bug affecting 360 users. Not sure why as they already released a patch for the Pc version, which was unnecessary in the first place (already a fully working community made patch - not beta), and could easily adapt the code to work on the 360.
To summarize, Oblivion's pretty, if you want to fight for it, or spend $600 on it. Oblivion's story is like a hollowed out twinkie with no white stuff, and Bethesda have horrible devs. This is all in my opinion of course, and you're free to disagree.
And thats why I'm sure the Fallout RPG will suck. If it doesn't, I'll be so fucking happy, cause I loved Fallout 1 and 2. But I have serious doubts. And the fallout MMO is going to suck anyway, because, really. Can anyone here imagine a Fallout MMO that would actually work out? |
What are you talking about? Bethesda is a great company. Why? Because every company wants to make money, and they made massive amounts with Oblivion. So obviously they did the right choice with it. Should they have made it more immersive and less mainstream(These two words don't really describe what I'm looking for but you get my point)? Yeah I'd prefer it that way, but then it would appeal to very limited fanbase, coz our generation of gamers is small, and there is a much much bigger market for those recently or just being introduced into gaming. There won't be any more games as Fallout or Ultima, at least not by a major developer company. Our time is over, accept the new games as they are, dumbed down and superficial, and play. Oh and BTW, for those still living a dream, PC gaming is on its deathbed.
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| Posted: Fri, 13th Apr 2007 19:33 Post subject: |
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| BearishSun wrote: | | Oh and BTW, for those still living a dream, PC gaming is on its deathbed. |
indie gamedevs and games like age of decadence, afterfall, or wing commander: pioneer ftw!
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| Posted: Fri, 13th Apr 2007 20:53 Post subject: |
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| Parallax_ wrote: | Ah, right. Well, still, I shit all over the MMO.
I'm all for the RPG though |
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| Posted: Fri, 13th Apr 2007 21:15 Post subject: |
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I hope that F3 will be a good game. There is no use saying that it will be shit just cause Bethsoft is making it. Oblivion was a good game but they focused on the wrong thing in a rpg-game. FPS's can get away with a game focusing primarily on graphics but a rpg cant.
Anyways as i said i still have high hopes for F3, they have it all laid out for them. Lore, art-style, the works.
MMO though.. meh.. no thanks.
Still if I had to choose my two highest-hope-releases are Dragon Age and Fallout 3.
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| Posted: Fri, 13th Apr 2007 22:05 Post subject: |
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| javlar wrote: | | Oblivion was a good game |
how so? what was good about that game other than the landscape graphics and the dungeon layouts?
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| Posted: Fri, 13th Apr 2007 23:28 Post subject: |
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| SuicideRun wrote: | | javlar wrote: | | Oblivion was a good game |
how so? what was good about that game other than the landscape graphics and the dungeon layouts? |
Bah, I won't even bother to write something smart, because there is sooo much wrong with that comment. I like games like Gothic 2 and Morrowind more, but Oblivion IS a good game, no matter what you, or anyone else says (From objective point of view of course).
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Apr 2007 06:03 Post subject: |
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| SuicideRun wrote: | | javlar wrote: | | Oblivion was a good game |
how so? what was good about that game other than the landscape graphics and the dungeon layouts? |
As i said in my post Oblivion was a good game because it had most of the right things. It had extraordinary graphics, good physics, above average sounds, tons of stuff to do, decent combatsystem, an average storyline and excellent modding capabilities. That could be said about pretty much any FPS that get 9/10 scores.
But since it is a RPG people get pissy about the fact that the story wasnt what they expected and that makes it easy for negative nancy's to say stuff like "Oblivion is a huge beautiful world full of nothing".
But just as BearishSun said Oblivion IS a good game. Might not be the best RPG out there but definitely a good game.
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Apr 2007 07:01 Post subject: |
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The reason oblivion sucks is the level system
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Apr 2007 10:17 Post subject: |
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| -=Cartoon=- wrote: | | The reason oblivion sucks is the level system |
The level system could be changed after a few days after release - and pretty much everything else in the following weeks/months!! |
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