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 Posted: Thu, 13th Apr 2006 19:13 Post subject: Puzzled About Crysis... |
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Good Day,
May be this question is due to my lack of knowledge but the following article made me doubt about DirectX 10 concepts..The article located in:
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/r/?page=http://www.computerandvideogames.com/interviews/interviews_story.php?id=137279
Caught my attention specially in the last question:
"Will it be playable at E3 and do you have any firm release date yet?
Cevat Yerli: It will definitely be playable at E3 and we're shooting for winter 2006 right now. We don't have to wait until Vista ships either.
Bernd Diemer Everything you've seen has been running on DX9 and normal hardware you can get in the shops right now. It's all normal spec and doesn't even use a dual processor or anything like that, we don't have any special graphical hardware inside these boxes. However, with DX10 and a dual core CPU, you're going to see something very special indeed. When we compare Far Cry to Crysis we're talking about two to three levels better in terms of generations, but if you compare DX 9 to DX10 it's at least a generation better, so there's a tangible difference, visually as well as from the intensity."
Well let asumme they are right and Crysis is released late this year. As I know, Windows Vista with its DX10 is scheduled to be released the first months of 2007. So, asumming that, you'll have to play Crysis with DX9 installed on your PC with a DX9 Video Card, or, as much as using Vista, DX10 an the same DX9 Video Card. And here is my doubt...I believed that you needed a new DX 10 Video Card (which it isnt out yet and I suppose it will be the next Nvidia and Ati generation to be realeased as always during the first quarter of 2007) so as to take advantage of DX10 games as Crysis..But from what I have read, you will have to play Crysis with your DX9 Video Card and in best of cases, with Vista and DX10 installed. So my question is how are you going to take advantages of DirectX10 main features in Crysis if it is not probably that you will play it with a DX10 Vidoe Card except if you want to wait to Nvidia an ATI?...
Please, correct me if I am wrong...thanks
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crossmr
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Apr 2006 01:24 Post subject: |
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I expect that Ati and Nvidia will ship DX10 cards when Vista ships.
They probably already have them ready very close to completion.
Its also possible they're including two versions like I heard they did with tomb raider.
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Apr 2006 01:33 Post subject: |
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| crossmr wrote: | I expect that Ati and Nvidia will ship DX10 cards when Vista ships.
They probably already have them ready very close to completion.
Its also possible they're including two versions like I heard they did with tomb raider. |
I really agree with you..I suppose that nvidia and ati are working very close with DX10 development so I also think this DX10 video cards are almost ready..But again my doubt is that Vista is scheduled for Febrery 2007 (if I am not mistaken)...If the article isnt wrong and Crysis is out November-Dicember 2006, whats the point of releasing a Flag DX10 Game, if you will have to wait months to play it?...
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Apr 2006 01:51 Post subject: |
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First off, I wouldn't worry about game release date estimates that are still almost a year away. Winter 2006 can easily become Spring 2007 if it gets delayed like practically every game ever made.
DX10 compatible cards will be out before the end of the year. The hardware already exists (how else would the guy from Crytek know how much better DX10 looks than DX9?), it's just not completely finalized.
If Crysis actually is released before Vista, you'll still be able to play it under DX9, just like all the people who don't bother upgrading to Vista/DX10 cards immediately.
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Weedo
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Apr 2006 02:49 Post subject: |
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Will DX10 be only available for Vista??
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Apr 2006 02:51 Post subject: |
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| Weedo wrote: | | Will DX10 be only available for Vista?? |
Well, from what I know the answer is Yes...but I may be wrong...
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Baleur
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crossmr
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Apr 2006 05:55 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Its the same with todays games if you just think for a second Wink
You can play most dx9 games with a dx8 card, you just wont get any nifty shaders. |
I heard something entirely different.
I something about there not being that type of compatability between dx9 and dx10
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Apr 2006 06:04 Post subject: |
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| crossmr wrote: | | Quote: | Its the same with todays games if you just think for a second Wink
You can play most dx9 games with a dx8 card, you just wont get any nifty shaders. |
I heard something entirely different.
I something about there not being that type of compatability between dx9 and dx10 |
Let me add some info to your words....In both web sites of Nvidia and ATI they are implementing "politics" and "logos" to put in the existing video cards in which they indicate that the card is compatible with Vista, or DX10..I read about it in an article an checked the Nvidia web site. There you reach a section in which the "Vista Ready" has already been implemented and there is a list of all the models that will work with Vista or DX10...So, overall, I agree with you..
Hope this help....
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Apr 2006 11:09 Post subject: |
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| paraiso36 wrote: | | I really agree with you..I suppose that nvidia and ati are working very close with DX10 development so I also think this DX10 video cards are almost ready..But again my doubt is that Vista is scheduled for Febrery 2007 (if I am not mistaken)...If the article isnt wrong and Crysis is out November-Dicember 2006, whats the point of releasing a Flag DX10 Game, if you will have to wait months to play it?... |
Crysis was delayed until 2007.
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crossmr
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Apr 2006 16:58 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Let me add some info to your words....In both web sites of Nvidia and ATI they are implementing "politics" and "logos" to put in the existing video cards in which they indicate that the card is compatible with Vista, or DX10..I read about it in an article an checked the Nvidia web site. There you reach a section in which the "Vista Ready" has already been implemented and there is a list of all the models that will work with Vista or DX10...So, overall, I agree with you..
Hope this help.... |
I'm trying to find the article I read, but as I was reading info about Vista about 2 months ago, I came across a small article about DirectX10 and how there would be some compatability issues between DX10 and previous versions of DirectX. To the point where it was either old games would play slowly on DX10 hardware because it would have to be software emulated, or new games would play slowly on old hardware for that same reason.
It hasn't been talked about a lot, I assume because MS wants to de-emphasize this as all these people spending thousands on graphics cards would have to turn around and do it again as soon as Vista is released.
I'm not sure if this is the original place I read it or not, but it speaks about what I heard:
http://news.softpedia.com/news/DirectX-10-and-so-it-ends-7762.shtml
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Apr 2006 18:01 Post subject: |
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Crysis isn't delayed... atleast that's what CRY-ALEX said.
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Apr 2006 20:19 Post subject: |
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| crossmr wrote: | | Quote: | Let me add some info to your words....In both web sites of Nvidia and ATI they are implementing "politics" and "logos" to put in the existing video cards in which they indicate that the card is compatible with Vista, or DX10..I read about it in an article an checked the Nvidia web site. There you reach a section in which the "Vista Ready" has already been implemented and there is a list of all the models that will work with Vista or DX10...So, overall, I agree with you..
Hope this help.... |
I'm trying to find the article I read, but as I was reading info about Vista about 2 months ago, I came across a small article about DirectX10 and how there would be some compatability issues between DX10 and previous versions of DirectX. To the point where it was either old games would play slowly on DX10 hardware because it would have to be software emulated, or new games would play slowly on old hardware for that same reason.
It hasn't been talked about a lot, I assume because MS wants to de-emphasize this as all these people spending thousands on graphics cards would have to turn around and do it again as soon as Vista is released.
I'm not sure if this is the original place I read it or not, but it speaks about what I heard:
http://news.softpedia.com/news/DirectX-10-and-so-it-ends-7762.shtml |
LOL!!! I agree, I have the same problem because I read the same info but cant find it anymore..But from my point of view I am sure there will be compatibility problems...
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Apr 2006 23:09 Post subject: |
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hell yeah there will be compability problems becoz VISTA has no DOS , and we all remember todays problems with xp and some programs or games that won`t run under it .
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Apr 2006 01:05 Post subject: |
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| Hfric wrote: | | hell yeah there will be compability problems becoz VISTA has no DOS , and we all remember todays problems with xp and some programs or games that won`t run under it . |
NT does not have DOS either...
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deelix
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Apr 2006 01:49 Post subject: |
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Last windows with dos was ME or 98...
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crossmr
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Apr 2006 02:46 Post subject: |
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ME was the last one.
XP was built on the NT line of NT -> 2000
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Apr 2006 11:27 Post subject: |
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but you can still run dos programs in xp - and for the info xp has DOS in it , VISTA will have none
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crossmr
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Apr 2006 16:42 Post subject: |
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XP has a command prompt, its a completely rewritten 32 bit command interpreter. Some of the commands may be the same, but they're not the same thing at all.
If you poked around windows98/ME you could actually find dos in there, you can't do that in xp.
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| Posted: Sat, 15th Apr 2006 16:45 Post subject: |
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Windows XP doesnt have dos, it just has a command line, there is a difference.
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Jun 2006 17:57 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 7th Jun 2006 18:30 Post subject: |
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I would be happy to play their alpha version with DX9 only. I boy long time to wait...
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