[PS2] hd loader!
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JoMasta




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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jun 2004 04:52    Post subject: [PS2] hd loader!
http://www.hdloader.com

Has anyone used this? It seems too good to be true.

You can use the official Sony Hard Drive or buy any compatible (which they dont have a list, but it seems about any will work) hard drive, along with a network adapter. Then you put in this disk and it will format the HD for you. After it is all installed then you just load up this cd, swap disks for a game, and it will make an image of it on the Hard Drive just like on Xbox! Very nice.

You cannot play games online just like on XBL but that is alright.

I just wonder 2 things:
-How many games dont work and wont work. Only like 4 or 5 are on their list, but are those the ONLY ones that dont work? Also do you think developers will start making theirs so they dont work with this?
-Does this let you open up the disk drive with the eject button or do you need to open it manually like with older modchips?

I think this could be very cool though.

Thoughts? Smile
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sTo0z
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jun 2004 07:30    Post subject:
Wow cool! I am definately going to have to give this a try.

Nice find!

Best part:
Quote:
Do I need a modified Playstation 2 in order to use HDLoader?

No - HDLoader is provided as a pressed, bootable Playstation 2 disc. No modifications are required.


Very Happy


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[sYn]
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jun 2004 12:25    Post subject:
Has anyone tried connecting a none official HDD to thier PS2? The idea is wonderful and assuming it works this is the way forward for PS2 "modding" in my opinion. I will certainly look into this one.

Quote:
Can I install backups using HDLoader?

We cannot comment on this. Any emails asking this question will be ignored.


Another interesting question Smile. Did you see any meantion of the loader being runable on PAL machines? or is this an NTSC disk?

-- edit --

It seems there are both NTSC and PAL versions, check the distrobutors page for links Smile.
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Malic




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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jun 2004 12:47    Post subject:
cool...

will it be possible to download games on put them on hd?
or burn them and put themon hd without a modified ps2?
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Qontact




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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Jun 2004 14:47    Post subject:
wow sounds really cool..
but ive already got a modchip so..
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Gmc




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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Jun 2004 09:04    Post subject:
Modchip or not - it'll save you scratching up disks by accident (Aka little brothers and sisters).

I'm just wondering if we'll be able to copy backups to the HD. Will see when its released I guess.

Also, theres PAL and NTSC versions, both on sale on divineo.
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|MaguS|




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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Jun 2004 19:01    Post subject:
Anyone know if you can transfer software from PC to the PS2 HD with this? The website only claims it can make images off Disc's... no mention of PC to PS2 network capabilities like the Xbox.
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n@utilus




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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Jun 2004 20:10    Post subject:
i think we have to wait for a group release to find out more Confused
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|MaguS|




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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Jun 2004 09:44    Post subject:
Seen it floating around the web, Anyone know if it works? IGN has a write up about it and they state that it cuts the load times of games by 50%+...
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Weedo




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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Jun 2004 13:24    Post subject:
Of course it works. At least the cracked release does.
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AwE




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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Jun 2004 15:42    Post subject:
From gamefreax.de - always a good adress for console stuff:

Quote:
The very popular HDLoader CD got released in USA some days ago. As the makers are deeply involved into the Scene they asked all big groups to keep their hands off it and most of them did. Anyway the guys over at ps2ownz gave a middlefinger and worked hard to get rid of the 20 protections. Today they released a working ISO of HDLoader which is just 8MB of size. The original CloneCD-Image is sized 500MB meaning there was a lot of crap on the CD that was necessary for all the protections.

Today is also the day of release of HDLoader PAL. People with a modded PS2 and the knowledge where to search perhaps won't buy it anymore but if you didn't modify your PS2 yet then ofcourse the HDLoader is for sure worth the buy.

However this is what people have to learn while always working against the industry they can't make a commercial software and hope not to be cracked...


Have phun!
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sTo0z
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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Jun 2004 16:01    Post subject:
Don't you need a modchip to run this disk if you don't buy it?


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AwE




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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Jun 2004 16:04    Post subject:
One more... =)

http://www.ranova.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=737

Have fun!

Mod Chip is needed...
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Saner




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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Jun 2004 16:05    Post subject:
yes because of the way playstation (1 and 2) copy protection works.

all they have removed is the Programs protection (you have to patch loads of PSX games anyways)

Playstation protection (I doubt very much) will ever be passable without doing crap like Swap disk's / Modchips etc...


ragnarus wrote:

I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ?Smile

Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa!
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sTo0z
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Jun 2004 00:06    Post subject:
So if you have modded your PS2 to play this disc, why would you need it? with a mod you could just run other games....

I'm not really seeing the point of this thing :\


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Gmc




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Jun 2004 02:43    Post subject:
sTo0z wrote:
So if you have modded your PS2 to play this disc, why would you need it? with a mod you could just run other games....

I'm not really seeing the point of this thing :\


There is a real disk for unmodded consoles for sale on divineo, so really you could rent a game, copy it to your PS2's HDD, and never have to buy that game Wink
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|MaguS|




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Jun 2004 03:18    Post subject:
Anyone else see sony and game developers sueing them? I do...
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mrelusive123




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Jun 2004 22:12    Post subject:
I'm having trouble with the HDLoader...I can backup originals just fine. The problem is, I can't backup backups of games onto the hard drive (DVD-R backups). It gives me the error of "insert a valid ps2 cd/dvd". Is this normal for it not to be able to backup DVD-R's? Or what?
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JoMasta




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Jun 2004 23:01    Post subject:
mrelusive123 wrote:
I'm having trouble with the HDLoader...I can backup originals just fine. The problem is, I can't backup backups of games onto the hard drive (DVD-R backups). It gives me the error of "insert a valid ps2 cd/dvd". Is this normal for it not to be able to backup DVD-R's? Or what?


Do you have a modchip? You need a mod-chip for it to read DVD-Rs. Also, if it read them before, are these the same type?
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mrelusive123




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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Jun 2004 23:04    Post subject:
Yes it has a modchip. a Magic2. And it has no problem playing the disc straight from the DVD-R...I'm just looking to play them off of the hard drive. Smile That's the main reason I play my xbox more than ps2 anymore...I'm too lazy to get up and put a new game in. Smile
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JoMasta




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PostPosted: Fri, 25th Jun 2004 00:21    Post subject:
mrelusive123 wrote:
Yes it has a modchip. a Magic2. And it has no problem playing the disc straight from the DVD-R...I'm just looking to play them off of the hard drive. Smile That's the main reason I play my xbox more than ps2 anymore...I'm too lazy to get up and put a new game in. Smile


I hear that. I dont know the answer to that though, good question. Hope you find one out tho Razz
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TheGuvnor




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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Jun 2004 14:55    Post subject:
Grrrrrrrrrrrr.......can't get it to work. Can anyone suggest anything ? (Apart from throwing my PS2 out the window)

On both the 8mb version of HDLoader, and the 130mb version......

I have tried a Maxtor 120gb drive - freezes at format screen.
Tried a Hitachi DeskStar 120gb drive - freezes at format screen.

I read on hdloader.com that there is an issue with some older network adaptors being incompatible with some HDs, so I swapped mine out with a new one. Freezes at format screen.

I have used the dm3 tool, and can see the formatted drive successfully, can remove the format, and re-format all OK. Still, when I try and format the bloody thing again, guess what ? It freezes at the format screen.

HEEEEEELP !!


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kapteg92




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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Jun 2004 15:13    Post subject:
mrelusive123 wrote:
Yes it has a modchip. a Magic2. And it has no problem playing the disc straight from the DVD-R...I'm just looking to play them off of the hard drive. Smile That's the main reason I play my xbox more than ps2 anymore...I'm too lazy to get up and put a new game in. Smile


It is normal u can't install backup dvd-r on HD. You must have a ripper 2 deluxe or gold or a messiah 2 pro in order to directly install dvd-r. Below these modship (ripper 1, messiah 1 and 2 and the others) you must do the following :

1. start Hdloader
2. eject the cd (that contains hdloader) and replace it with an original game with biggest TOC (Vice city or FFX will be ok)
3. select Install
4. swap the original with your backup dvd-r (by swap i mean eject the original without pressing the eject button which means you must swap by slidecard)
5. press Continues
6. enter the game name
7 then install
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swebarb




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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Jun 2004 19:37    Post subject:
too bad you need a modchip Sad
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TheGuvnor




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PostPosted: Fri, 9th Jul 2004 20:13    Post subject:
TheGuvnor wrote:
Grrrrrrrrrrrr.......can't get it to work. Can anyone suggest anything ? (Apart from throwing my PS2 out the window)

On both the 8mb version of HDLoader, and the 130mb version......

I have tried a Maxtor 120gb drive - freezes at format screen.
Tried a Hitachi DeskStar 120gb drive - freezes at format screen.

I read on hdloader.com that there is an issue with some older network adaptors being incompatible with some HDs, so I swapped mine out with a new one. Freezes at format screen.

I have used the dm3 tool, and can see the formatted drive successfully, can remove the format, and re-format all OK. Still, when I try and format the bloody thing again, guess what ? It freezes at the format screen.

HEEEEEELP !!


For those of you that are having the same problem (possibly nobody judging by the number of replies !!!!) I have found the solution.

When you first boot the HDLoader, if you get the freeze, you have to wait for the HD to be accessed (shown by the little light flashing inside the PS2), then wait for the disc to stop spinning. If you eject the disc at this point, then....HEY PRESTO ! You get the terms and conditions screen. If you put the disc back in now, then press YES, the software continues as normal !!! WAHOO !!!


Jesus loves you. Everyone else thinks you're a cun........
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Steve-O 2004




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PostPosted: Fri, 9th Jul 2004 23:49    Post subject:
TheGuvnor wrote:
TheGuvnor wrote:
Grrrrrrrrrrrr.......can't get it to work. Can anyone suggest anything ? (Apart from throwing my PS2 out the window)

On both the 8mb version of HDLoader, and the 130mb version......

I have tried a Maxtor 120gb drive - freezes at format screen.
Tried a Hitachi DeskStar 120gb drive - freezes at format screen.

I read on hdloader.com that there is an issue with some older network adaptors being incompatible with some HDs, so I swapped mine out with a new one. Freezes at format screen.

I have used the dm3 tool, and can see the formatted drive successfully, can remove the format, and re-format all OK. Still, when I try and format the bloody thing again, guess what ? It freezes at the format screen.

HEEEEEELP !!


For those of you that are having the same problem (possibly nobody judging by the number of replies !!!!) I have found the solution.

When you first boot the HDLoader, if you get the freeze, you have to wait for the HD to be accessed (shown by the little light flashing inside the PS2), then wait for the disc to stop spinning. If you eject the disc at this point, then....HEY PRESTO ! You get the terms and conditions screen. If you put the disc back in now, then press YES, the software continues as normal !!! WAHOO !!!




MAybe You have a Bad Laser...
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TheGuvnor




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PostPosted: Sat, 10th Jul 2004 01:39    Post subject:
Nah, I had the laser replaced a few months ago. It plays all discs fine, it just hung on the hdloader screen. I think it is a known problem, as I found it on a website to do with chip compatibility & hdloader. Very odd though !


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Jehan




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PostPosted: Sun, 11th Jul 2004 16:16    Post subject:
Anyone tried it on a Matrix infinity v1.2?

Also, does Dvd-rips work?
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