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but why use a commercial version? there are at least three decent free versions of vnc out there, that i know of...
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| Posted: Wed, 11th Jan 2006 02:58 Post subject: |
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wow cool, ill totally get this!
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deelix
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| Posted: Wed, 11th Jan 2006 08:52 Post subject: |
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Its different, iv used them before... But you need a program at the pc you are at. Not with www.logmein.com
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| Posted: Wed, 11th Jan 2006 08:56 Post subject: |
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Well its just a small server side application... Running it on my server with no lack on the performance. Works fine and free.
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Lutzifer
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| Posted: Wed, 11th Jan 2006 13:35 Post subject: |
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| deelix wrote: | | Its different, iv used them before... But you need a program at the pc you are at. Not with www.logmein.com |
and you trust others with your password? I woudlnt 
If you have a java-enabled browser at your disposal you can login into your vnc-session anyways without a need for a client-side program afaik, so no need for a middle man.
Another solution could be using remote login of xp. You ll need xp pro for it though as the home version doesnt have it. Then just enable remote-login on your home-system and login from any xp pro you want. Its even somewhat better(e.g. a bit faster/ more stable /...) then vnc with xp in my experience |
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| Posted: Wed, 11th Jan 2006 13:39 Post subject: |
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| Lutzifer wrote: | | Another solution could be using remote login of xp. You ll need xp pro for it though as the home version doesnt have it. Then just enable remote-login on your home-system and login from any xp pro you want. Its even somewhat better(e.g. a bit faster/ more stable /...) then vnc with xp in my experience |
Indeed, but it logs out any user who is logged in locally to the pc, quitting all programs wich are not running as services.
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| Posted: Wed, 11th Jan 2006 14:17 Post subject: |
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| whoKnows wrote: | | Lutzifer wrote: | | Another solution could be using remote login of xp. You ll need xp pro for it though as the home version doesnt have it. Then just enable remote-login on your home-system and login from any xp pro you want. Its even somewhat better(e.g. a bit faster/ more stable /...) then vnc with xp in my experience |
Indeed, but it logs out any user who is logged in locally to the pc, quitting all programs wich are not running as services. |
really? never noticed it 8-0 But i never really had more than one user on my system anyways |
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| Posted: Wed, 11th Jan 2006 15:15 Post subject: |
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| Lutzifer wrote: | | whoKnows wrote: | | Lutzifer wrote: | | Another solution could be using remote login of xp. You ll need xp pro for it though as the home version doesnt have it. Then just enable remote-login on your home-system and login from any xp pro you want. Its even somewhat better(e.g. a bit faster/ more stable /...) then vnc with xp in my experience |
Indeed, but it logs out any user who is logged in locally to the pc, quitting all programs wich are not running as services. |
really? never noticed it 8-0 But i never really had more than one user on my system anyways |
You can try it yourself, the remote login will ask you if you want the local/other user to be logged out. If you say no the remote connection will close. And i've never heard of any solutions for this.
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| Posted: Wed, 11th Jan 2006 21:27 Post subject: |
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I've thought about VNC before, in the context of playing WoW or watching some movie I downloaded the night before on one of the loaner laptops that my school has. I'm not sure how viable that is though. If anyone can recommend a VNC client that can handle, say, WoW (don't worry about the connection speeds, my 10mbps can handle simultaneous connections, and the school's wireless is fast enough), it would be a viable option.
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| Posted: Wed, 11th Jan 2006 21:53 Post subject: |
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yeah vnc is cool , i got a vnc program on my psp and i use it to log on to my home pc from a wi-fi hotspot anywhere to check my downloads and stuff
and its a lot better then a xp remote desktop as that logs the current user off whereas vnc dont, allthough thru the psp it can be a little slow , but its handy for a quick overview of what my pc is doing while im out and about
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| Posted: Thu, 12th Jan 2006 18:16 Post subject: |
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Really nice app, I did it this morning worked quite qwell from college 
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| Posted: Thu, 12th Jan 2006 18:50 Post subject: |
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| Accelleron wrote: | | I've thought about VNC before, in the context of playing WoW or watching some movie I downloaded the night before on one of the loaner laptops that my school has. I'm not sure how viable that is though. If anyone can recommend a VNC client that can handle, say, WoW (don't worry about the connection speeds, my 10mbps can handle simultaneous connections, and the school's wireless is fast enough), it would be a viable option. |
I hope you aren't hoping to play a game/watch a movie remotely through VNC. That just won't work man. 10Mbit is waaay to slow to handle the bandwidth required for something like that. You'd probably need a Gbit-connection, and a pretty fast CPU.
Remember that VNC basically sends imagedumps frame-by-frame, with a RAW-connection, a 1600x1200-image is about 5,4MB.
To have a smooth rendition of a movie, that would require your connection to send -at least- 24 of these per second = 24 x 5,4 = ~130MB/s - that would require -at least- a Gbit connection, it would also put your CPU at an immense strain.
Why this works with eg. a desktop screen, and simpler things (such as surfing), is because they've managed to program functions that work similarly to DTV, meaning - only what changes in the image is sent. In a rather static desktop environment, this makes it much speedier to use.
There are options, like JPEG-compression, and such - but none would enable you to play a game, or watch a movie through VNC on another computer.
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| Posted: Thu, 12th Jan 2006 19:12 Post subject: |
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| fisk wrote: | | Accelleron wrote: | | I've thought about VNC before, in the context of playing WoW or watching some movie I downloaded the night before on one of the loaner laptops that my school has. I'm not sure how viable that is though. If anyone can recommend a VNC client that can handle, say, WoW (don't worry about the connection speeds, my 10mbps can handle simultaneous connections, and the school's wireless is fast enough), it would be a viable option. |
I hope you aren't hoping to play a game/watch a movie remotely through VNC. That just won't work man. 10Mbit is waaay to slow to handle the bandwidth required for something like that. You'd probably need a Gbit-connection, and a pretty fast CPU.
Remember that VNC basically sends imagedumps frame-by-frame, with a RAW-connection, a 1600x1200-image is about 5,4MB.
To have a smooth rendition of a movie, that would require your connection to send -at least- 24 of these per second = 24 x 5,4 = ~130MB/s - that would require -at least- a Gbit connection, it would also put your CPU at an immense strain.
Why this works with eg. a desktop screen, and simpler things (such as surfing), is because they've managed to program functions that work similarly to DTV, meaning - only what changes in the image is sent. In a rather static desktop environment, this makes it much speedier to use.
There are options, like JPEG-compression, and such - but none would enable you to play a game, or watch a movie through VNC on another computer. |
a friend tryed WoW.. lol 1fps and lag as hell, and fucked up colors.. =\ Not for playing.. but nice to start some downloads while your at school 
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| Posted: Sat, 14th Jan 2006 19:00 Post subject: |
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I wonder if logmein will work with MACOS 9 without Java.. I tried using other VNC browser's and it would not work because i never had java.. stupid school computers.. lol
Does anyone know if this uses Java runtime?
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| Posted: Mon, 16th Jan 2006 18:40 Post subject: |
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Never mind , Seems to be working now.
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| Posted: Mon, 17th Jul 2006 20:30 Post subject: |
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i use logmein to bypass firewalls at my school lol
but, does vnc support SSL connections also?
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| Posted: Mon, 17th Jul 2006 20:55 Post subject: |
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i'll stick with logmein for now and maybe when school starts again i'll try to test vnc but i think my home IP will be blocked because the stupid admin checks the firewall logs.... another reason that i use logmein for the fact the data is encrypted to 256 bits but i hope vnc can support SSL connections so the URL is also encrypted
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| Posted: Mon, 17th Jul 2006 21:06 Post subject: |
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I still prefer VNC programs, which has much more features then Logmein. RDP is nice too, but not really suitable for all PC's.
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