Cheap HDD
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[sYn]
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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Jul 2006 00:46    Post subject: Cheap HDD
Im looking to buy 2 cheap HDD's to replace 2x (old) 40gb IDE drives I have in my machine. For now I'm not doing a full update as the market is still in the middle of a huge change (with dual cores introduction, PCI-E and various buy outs..).. So I want to get this system prepared to be the best it can be so when I eventually buy a new system it wont become horribly redundant, and will still be very acceptable machine for internet/developing and older games.

Anyway.. I was looking at getting 2 of these..

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=202601

Thoughts? Opinions? Better deals?

Remember these will be for storage mainly, my 600gb SATA Raid has been full for far too long :\
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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Jul 2006 02:05    Post subject:
IDE Confused Why not go SATA? Also I would rather pick seagate as maxtor never worked as good as any seagate for me.
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[sYn]
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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Jul 2006 02:22    Post subject:
As I have used all my sata ports, I am simply replacing the old IDE's with bigger drives.
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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Jul 2006 02:26    Post subject:
[sYn] wrote:
As I have used all my sata ports, I am simply replacing the old IDE's with bigger drives.


ever heard of IDE 2 SATA cable?



cost= 1euro lol


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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Jul 2006 02:36    Post subject:
Dont you mean a Sata PCI Card?


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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Jul 2006 03:02    Post subject:
Hehe, that cable has nothing to do with IDE Razz
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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Jul 2006 04:02    Post subject:
CRA$HH110011001 wrote:
[sYn] wrote:
As I have used all my sata ports, I am simply replacing the old IDE's with bigger drives.


ever heard of IDE 2 SATA cable?

cost= 1euro lol


only so many slots on the motherboard for sata hard drives, im assuming thats what he meant, not psu plugs.


fuck linux.
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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Jul 2006 04:07    Post subject:
Get a SATA2 controller card... Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Jul 2006 10:22    Post subject:
I have now six of the Samsung 2504C for storage. They are the cheapest at the moment, they are quiet and they have very low temps compared to other drives. A PATA version is also out.

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=247245

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=253582
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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Jul 2006 13:24    Post subject:
whoKnows wrote:
I have now six of the Samsung 2504C for storage. They are the cheapest at the moment, they are quiet and they have very low temps compared to other drives. A PATA version is also out.

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=247245

http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=253582


Thank you for being the only person who has actually answered the post correctly haha Wink Looks good and has a good low seek time, but 8Mb cache over 16Mb cache? How much a performance drop do you think I will see, and do the samsungs other features out weigh this lower cache issue..?
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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Jul 2006 13:47    Post subject:
The 2504C has all the latest features like Sata-II and NCQ and it has very low temps wich was important to me because i have six of them stacked in one case. They are running in a Raid 5 setup 24/7 and do their job of storing data (with my Gbit line i get around 35MB/s writing speed, wich is not bad for a cheap Raid setup). I don't know if the 16mb cache makes any difference, for me the price was more important, the Samsung was by far the cheapest drive at that time, and with six drives the price was an important factor Wink
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[sYn]
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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Jul 2006 13:56    Post subject:
Well its certainly a contender, so thanks for the info. Ill be ordering later today once I talk with another friend and get his opinion. I'll let you know what I choose Smile!
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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Jul 2006 15:38    Post subject:
LOL 35mb/s in write speed... Dude those drives gotta suck. And in a raid... RAID sucks, raid for gaming is useless as accesspeed is so slow and with those write speeds raid is even more useless.

If I move data from my Seagate 160gb SATA1 (7200.Cool to my Seagate 320gb SATA2 (7200.10) I get about 38mb/s and none are in raid mode or anything.

I hope you'll have fun when the HDD's starts crashing on you...
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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Jul 2006 16:20    Post subject:
haha, do you even know what you are talking about? Guess not, i have the raid for data security, you may want to read up on the meaning on different raid levels. And i said i get that speed over my GBIT LAN line, not while copying data from one drive to another.

The Samsung HD's are much faster than that, and why should i have any trouble then they fail, that's what the raid is for.
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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Jul 2006 16:38    Post subject:
kosmiq wrote:
Get a SATA2 controller card... Very Happy


I heard you can use these cables also for your dvd to play SF4 games.

sooooooooo Surprised


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PostPosted: Sun, 30th Jul 2006 19:14    Post subject:
whoKnows wrote:
haha, do you even know what you are talking about? Guess not, i have the raid for data security, you may want to read up on the meaning on different raid levels. And i said i get that speed over my GBIT LAN line, not while copying data from one drive to another.

The Samsung HD's are much faster than that, and why should i have any trouble then they fail, that's what the raid is for.


Oh sorry, missed the part about the gb line... Razz

However I do not feel that RAID5 is safe to use. Sure it tries to recreate lossed data on the fly but what says it must succeed? It might aswell fail and give corrupt data.

I stay away from raid as a bad raid driver, controller card, whatever might make it crap out anytime.
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