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Posted: Fri, 10th Aug 2018 01:37 Post subject: Germany lifts ban on swastikas in videogames |
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https://www.pcgamer.com/germany-lifts-ban-on-swastikas-in-videogames/
Finally.
Sorry if this has been mentioned elsewhere before, I have been rather inactive recently.
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Germany's game rating agency USK announced today [Google translation] that videogames will now be given the same consideration as movies with regard to allowable content—which means that, as works of art, they are exempt from the ban.
That doesn't necessarily mean all swastikas, all the time, but a hard "no" will no longer be the default. "Through the change in the interpretation of the law, games that critically look at current affairs can for the first time be given a USK age rating," USK managing director Elisabeth Secker told CTV. "This has long been the case for films and with regards to the freedom of the arts, this is now rightly also the case with computer and videogames."
The German Games Industry Association issued a statement welcoming the change, saying that it has "long campaigned for games to finally be permitted to play an equal role in social discourse, without exception."
"Computer and videogames have been recognized as a cultural medium for many years now, and this latest decision consistently cements that recognition in terms of the use of unconstitutional symbols as well," managing director Felix Falk said. "We in the games industry are concerned about the tendencies we see towards racism, anti-semitism and discrimination. We are strongly committed to an open, inclusive society, to the values laid out in the German constitution, and to Germany’s historical responsibility."
"Many games produced by creative, dedicated developers address sensitive topics such as the Nazi era in Germany, and they do so in a responsible way that encourages reflection and critical thinking. The interactive nature of games makes them uniquely qualified to spark contemplation and debate, and they reach younger generations like no other medium can."
The association explained that the USK will now examine games on a case-by-case basis to see whether Germany's "social adequacy clause," which allows the use of symbols belonging to unconstitutional organizations—the Nazis—"as long as they serve an artistic or scientific purpose, or depict current or historical events." That law hasn't changed, but its interpretation by the Supreme Youth Protection Authority of the Federal States—or Oberste Landesjugendbehörde, as the locals call it—has, and now places games "on an equal footing with other forms of media."
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Posted: Fri, 10th Aug 2018 02:07 Post subject: |
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That's definitely a step in the right direction, although admittedly a few decades late.
Now what about gore/blood/dismemberment? Is it still being removed/turned green/disallowed?
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Posted: Fri, 10th Aug 2018 07:06 Post subject: |
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Immunity wrote: | That's definitely a step in the right direction, although admittedly a few decades late.
Now what about gore/blood/dismemberment? Is it still being removed/turned green/disallowed? |
No they stopped doing that more then a decade ago i think the last censored games i remember because of violence are from the early 00s or so.
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Posted: Fri, 10th Aug 2018 07:15 Post subject: |
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tet666 wrote: | Immunity wrote: | That's definitely a step in the right direction, although admittedly a few decades late.
Now what about gore/blood/dismemberment? Is it still being removed/turned green/disallowed? |
No they stopped doing that more then a decade ago i think the last censored games i remember because of violence are from the early 00s or so. |
Theres still a few games on the "Index" because of violence, Dying Light for example.
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Posted: Fri, 10th Aug 2018 09:29 Post subject: |
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KillaSeven wrote: | tet666 wrote: | Immunity wrote: | That's definitely a step in the right direction, although admittedly a few decades late.
Now what about gore/blood/dismemberment? Is it still being removed/turned green/disallowed? |
No they stopped doing that more then a decade ago i think the last censored games i remember because of violence are from the early 00s or so. |
Theres still a few games on the "Index" because of violence, Dying Light for example. |
Index just means those games can't be sold to minors or advertised to them which is imho ok and it doesn't actually happen very often these days apart from some extreme games like Hatred, i personally don't really have a problem with that and those games are also not outright banned like games with Nazi symbols where and as i said publishers stopped doing this green blood nonsense a decade ago as well.
Besides most of the old games on these lists would probably be allrdy removed anyway if publishers actually bothered to get them checked again.
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Posted: Fri, 10th Aug 2018 11:44 Post subject: |
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Felix Fart wrote: | ... Germany’s historical responsibility |
huh?
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Now, I don't know what hardware costs in Poland, I guess it's cheaper because everything is stolen from Germany and resold... |
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Posted: Fri, 10th Aug 2018 12:32 Post subject: |
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Should we be worried after this lift... 
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Posted: Fri, 10th Aug 2018 13:04 Post subject: |
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The full ban was bullshit anyway. The ONLY reason they had it, was because it gave them a reason to arrest people more easily. It made it easier to crack down on neonazis. On the other hand, by making it "forbidden" they just made it more appealing to teenagers, the idiots.
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Posted: Fri, 10th Aug 2018 13:16 Post subject: |
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Now Japapappa needs to remove the mosaics in porn and the world will be great again. 
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Posted: Fri, 10th Aug 2018 14:30 Post subject: |
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Next up: Invade Poland.
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Posted: Mon, 13th Aug 2018 02:15 Post subject: |
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Swastika ? Have no fear men...
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