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| Quote: | European Xbox 360 bigwig Chris Lewis reckons his console has "at least" five more competitive years in it.
Talking to GamesIndustry.biz, he said Europe was "very central" to Microsoft's "global success" during that time. He's convinced that Kinect - nee Natal - will appeal greatly on the continent.
"Kinect for 360 is big for France, Italy, Germany and Spain, where there is a market for the casual gaming appetite that we can now address without the physical barrier of the controller," said Lewis.
"2010 will be a very big year for us. It is in many ways for us mid-lifecycle. What you've seen is with this new sleek design and Kinect for Xbox 360 we've got at least another five years of this generation where we continue to offer great experiences for people. [Leo:  ]
"We continue to attach more games than competitive platforms," he added, "and we have the healthiest ecosystem with 25 million people connected through Xbox Live. So we are uniquely placed to continue to do really, really well in this business and enjoy ongoing momentum."
Lewis went on to reveal that he doesn't believe 3D will be important until a year, year-and-a-half from now.
"You can't have the revolution without the army in terms of the installed base," he quipped. "Certainly for this Christmas the timing isn't yet right. Over time there will be a lot more interest as the price points get more realistic, we'll see families feeling better about having that kind of infrastructure in the home.
"I think we'll see in 12-18 months from now that will become more important. From our point of view we're very well placed and we'll listen to what our consumers want and we can enhance the experience accordingly."
He added that it was "too early" to talk about 3D this side of Christmas.
Head over to GamesIndustry.biz for the full interview with Chris Lewis. |
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All I can say is "". It seems indeed they are betting big on the this silly Natal crap. |
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| Posted: Mon, 21st Jun 2010 21:54 Post subject: |
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I believe the 360 is gonna be popular for at least 5 more years. But it doesn't mean it will be any better. The latest updates haven't added much anyway... for instance facebook on the 360 is fucking useless
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd Jun 2010 01:30 Post subject: |
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| me7 wrote: | Maybe they mean it like Sony. The PS1's lifecycle didn't end with the release of the PS2, there were still some PS1 games released every other month. The same goes for the PS2.
But if they really want to keep the X360 as their primary system for five more years:  |
The second Sony release a new console.
You can guarantee Microshit will follow straight away.
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd Jun 2010 01:41 Post subject: |
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| deelix wrote: | | I believe the 360 is gonna be popular for at least 5 more years. But it doesn't mean it will be any better. The latest updates haven't added much anyway... for instance facebook on the 360 is fucking useless |
I´m hoping Microsoft will integrate facebook in the whole system like they´re doing for Windows Mobile 7.
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd Jun 2010 13:05 Post subject: |
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They said it would have a 10 year lifespan when it first came out.
I saw this "news" elsewhere, but they have been saying 10 years since 2005, so its hardly news
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I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ? |
Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa!
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd Jun 2010 13:22 Post subject: |
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Why are they avoiding 3D so much. I understand there is little user base at present but from what I can gather, from an MS point of view, surely it's a firmware update with no additional hardware to the console (obviously you'd need the 3D glasses and TV).
Why don't they just put it in place and let developers decide on if things will be 3D or not.
As for the whole 5 year thing. It makes sense. 3D will be a lot more commonplace, a new HD standard is expected in 2017 so it's not far off that. Plus, when consoles are selling well then why replace the current gen?
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd Jun 2010 17:08 Post subject: |
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I believe this generation of consoles have a much longer lifespan due to the fact technology doesn't move forwards as quickly as it used to, so it doesn't come as a surprise that Sony and MS are milking the system for 5 more years, the only system that could do with a major overhaul is the Wii, let's be honest its a glorified Game cube.
I think that consumers would shun a new console now, one because it would be expensive and two because we are still at the tail end of a global recession.
One good thing would be ( but we know it wont happen ) would be if game prices came down as software houses got better and quicker at making the games and the obvious increase of apps and development tools economics and ease of use and advancement.
Things like 3D TV's are still in their infancy and still have a way to go before they are accepted as a viable commercial product.
You could in a few years see the 360 with a blu ray player and another Wii but apart from that I dont see much else happening.
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd Jun 2010 17:11 Post subject: |
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LOLWUT? Technology doesn't move forward? It's the retarded consoles with 5-year-old hardware that are trying stopping technology. 
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Christ, even Moore's Law PROVES that technology moves forward. It moves forward just as quickly, if not faster, than it did before. As Leo said, it's only CONSOLE technology that stagnates for years, holding back progression.
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| Posted: Tue, 22nd Jun 2010 19:21 Post subject: |
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Technology did move forward. PC gamers usually enjoy games at 1080p or higher these days, that's a huge step compared to the 720p or lower we see on X360 and PS3. You can't say: "X360 games look as good today as they did in 2005, therefore the console has aged well", that's wrong.
Both consoles don't cut it anymore in 2010/11. The X360 was a great machine in 2005 and the PS3 was still okay in 2006, but now it's time for 1080p.
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| Posted: Sun, 27th Jun 2010 20:09 Post subject: |
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@Mantis2K9
To be honest, if they used the latest currently available technology to consoles, and provide a good amount of RAM (4GB, and why the hell not, make it 64-bit addressable memory, and put 6GB+), and I honestly think games could become a lot better graphically and gameplay. Imagine Crysis levels of visual quality but with much better gameplay and story-telling. Imagine having a huge open country and put a shooter there (like, say, ARMA-type huge) and have that world living, instead of having to have linear sections of it, on 5 year old engines? How about they make a huge, open-world psychological thriller set on an ever-changing island with full day-night cycle, instead of a 5 year in the making, retarded follow-the-white-light linear bullshit, rendered in glorious 1024x640?
No my dear, you are the one deluding yourself.  And I don't care what you are concerned or not. I am stating my opinion on your puny console's hardware. Obviously Microsoft and Sony are thinking like you, and this is why I posted this with a "" at them and you.
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| Posted: Sun, 27th Jun 2010 20:24 Post subject: |
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My opinion, I have more insight into games creation, and technology but I wont go into that, my point isn't that technology hasn't moved forward or that you couldn't make a piece of hardware better than the current crop, if you brought out one now you could make it obsolete within a few months, however.
The console market and the PC market have nothing in common what so ever, apart from the fact that they both have games on them, the user base is different and want different things.
Most tech heads would sit there a masturbate at the numbers and figures of the new console, but all said and done you put a new console now in front of the majority of console users they would be asking you " whats better about it? ", the console would be a waste of money, hell they can't even reinvent the current hardware and stimulate growth.
So the only one here kidding themselves that their opinion is worth anything is you, because you clearly don't know what you're talking about.
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| Posted: Sun, 27th Jun 2010 20:30 Post subject: |
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Oh, I am not kidding myself, believe me, I know my opinion is not popular. So? Doesn't mean I have to agree with your or any other silly economical decision. I demand my games entertain me, not the pockets of large corporations.
For the record, I have an "insight" into game creating but not corporate greed, not do I want to have one.
| Mantis2K9 wrote: | | The console market and the PC market have nothing in common what so ever, apart from the fact that they both have games on them, the user base is different and want different things. |
Indeed, yet retard developers insist treating the PC as a console, thus intertwining PCs and consoles into one.
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| iNatan wrote: | @Mantis2K9
To be honest, if they used the latest currently available technology to consoles, and provide a good amount of RAM (4GB, and why the hell not, make it 64-bit addressable memory, and put 6GB+), and I honestly think games could become a lot better graphically and gameplay. Imagine Crysis levels of visual quality but with much better gameplay and story-telling. Imagine having a huge open country and put a shooter there (like, say, ARMA-type huge) and have that world living, instead of having to have linear sections of it, on 5 year old engines? |
nice ideas, but you kinda forgot the cash factor - hardware comparable to contemporary PCs (500+$) would shoot far beyond the usual pricing sweet spot which customers are comfortable with when buying a console
and have you ever considered the budget needed fot that sort fo game you've just envisioned
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| Posted: Sun, 27th Jun 2010 20:38 Post subject: |
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| bushwacka wrote: | | and have you ever considered the budget needed fot that sort fo game you've just envisioned |
You mean what Crysis and ARMA almost delivered (and mods did deliver) and what Remedy promised?  |
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what crysis and ARMA delivered were awesome gfx, good gameplay and in the case of ARMA, a hefty load of square miles (i know that the cryengine2 is capable of handling huge environments, but crysis is still a corridor shooter, just in a wider corridor).
but are those big areas really living, hand-crafted/non-procedural and without any dull fillers?
and then there's the storytelling. yes, there are enough (especially indie) games out there that have excellent storytelling just by using text, but that won't cut it in a blockbuster. and voice actors, and even more importantly, script writers don't come cheap. big budget means the game has to sell well, and what sells well? scripted corridor shooters.
don't get me wrong, i'd love having beefed up consoles as well as truly massive games that are made with a bit of love behind it. but from an economical standpoint, that won't happen, at least for the next few years.
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