The Satellite Internet
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ManBlooD




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Oct 2006 04:58    Post subject: The Satellite Internet
What kind of connection .. high speed ??

or it's over lies and never works fine ?

is it really work , is there any cheaper around ?

If you already connected , please provide good company to guide who hasn't connected .

is there really there is way to get it free ? ( Most of time free download only )

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Satellite Internet services are used in locations where terrestrial Internet access is not available and in locations which move frequently. Internet access via satellite is available worldwide, including vessels at sea. There are three types of satellite Internet service:

* one-way multicast,
* one-way with terrestrial return, and
* two-way satellite access.


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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satellite_Internet


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Noob
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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Oct 2006 09:33    Post subject:
From what I understand a two way satellite is cost prohibitive. A one way satellite works by using the satellite for down stream data and using your phone line (56k) for upload. Therefore the ping rates suck but for constant stream downloads it's good.
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kosmiq




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Oct 2006 13:29    Post subject:
What Noob said is correct. Ping will always suck with satellite, upload to satellite is too damn expensive... But on the other hand the satellite connection is too damn expensive anyway.

Not worth the money IMHO. You see, my dad lives out in nowhere (not even adsl is avaible there Razz) and he once thought of getting satellite. However $1700 it were to cost just to install and get the service to begin with and that was the 192kbps from satellite download and 56kbps up with modem cost....
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Kristian




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Oct 2006 14:36    Post subject:
They got satellite on the ships dad works on.
He says it sucks.
As slow as 56k


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X_Dror




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Oct 2006 14:58    Post subject:
It's better than nothing.
I would love to have internet acess in the middle of the ocean Razz
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SycoShaman
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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Oct 2006 16:04    Post subject:
X_Dror wrote:
It's better than nothing.
I would love to have internet acess in the middle of the ocean Razz


Yeah, exactly.

If your in the middle of no where, I think satellite is a good alternative.
Im sure things will get faster and faster the more and more wireless internet develops.


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[sYn]
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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Oct 2006 17:37    Post subject:
Satellite internet is NOT slow.. well obviously you can buy slow packages, but as a technology its speedy.. 40Mb type fast (although a lot of packages are lower..).

Asynchronous (One-way) has a fast download but generally relies on 56k modem or GPRS (9k) for upload..

Synchronous (two-way) has both fast down and up, but is very expensive!
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SycoShaman
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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Oct 2006 17:44    Post subject:
[sYn] wrote:
Satellite internet is NOT slow.. well obviously you can buy slow packages, but as a technology its speedy.. 40Mb type fast (although a lot of packages are lower..).

Asynchronous (One-way) has a fast download but generally relies on 56k modem or GPRS (9k) for upload..

Synchronous (two-way) has both fast down and up, but is very expensive!


Does satellite internet fuck up if there is a bad storm? like satellite tv?

Thats why ive never gone the satellite route. Everything is cable/digital cable for me.


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[sYn]
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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Oct 2006 17:45    Post subject:
Yes it does Razz
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SycoShaman
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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Oct 2006 17:50    Post subject:
[sYn] wrote:
Yes it does Razz


It sucks then lol Smile

Thats why i stay away from sateliite shit. I still dont see how the sat companies say their services are better than cable/dsl services.

I rarely have a problem with my internet and my tv. And if I do, its not my problem, but the providers problem so a bunch of people are affected, not just me.

I hate that. When my power is out or the tv is fucked and my brother's is working (he doesnt live in Toronto, 20-30minutes away).

The worst was the east coast power outage of 2003...a day and a half in blistering summer heat with no electricity and shit...no ac, no tv, no cpu...i drank ALOT of beer that day and a half lol


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kumkss




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Oct 2006 17:59    Post subject:
lets make a "cow" (donation) and buy our own nforce satellite!! i guess between 56000+- users, will afford it, and has the capability for a decent speed for each one... ?? Razz
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Kristian




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Oct 2006 18:18    Post subject:
Satellite does not fuck up in storm.
We got satellite TV here and it works in all weathers.
Dad got satellite Internet on the boat and it works in storms with 10-20m waves.


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kumkss




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Oct 2006 18:48    Post subject:
10-20meters waves???? that's the Perfect Storm!!! 10, maybe reasonable... but 20?????? not in the Magallanes Cape!!!
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[sYn]
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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Oct 2006 20:36    Post subject:
Stealth88 wrote:
Satellite does not fuck up in storm.
We got satellite TV here and it works in all weathers.
Dad got satellite Internet on the boat and it works in storms with 10-20m waves.


I'm basing my comments on a guy I used to know who had it, he would always get cut off during a storm.. It depends on the kind of storm of course..
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X_Dror




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Oct 2006 20:38    Post subject:
My satellite TV only fucks up when it's snowing (very rare) because the snow is covering the dish.
But these kind of storms are very rare (once in 2-3 years) so it's okay Smile
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SycoShaman
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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Oct 2006 20:41    Post subject:
X_Dror wrote:
My satellite TV only fucks up when it's snowing (very rare) because the snow is covering the dish.
But these kind of storms are very rare (once in 2-3 years) so it's okay Smile


it snows in Israel? Shocked


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X_Dror




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Oct 2006 20:46    Post subject:
Yes ofcourse.
Though only in high places like jerusalem and the north.
It's not snowing every year in Jerusalem but it is snowing every year and there is even a ski site on mount Hermon in the north.
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Kristian




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Oct 2006 22:40    Post subject:
kumkss wrote:
10-20meters waves???? that's the Perfect Storm!!! 10, maybe reasonable... but 20?????? not in the Magallanes Cape!!!

It's normal with 20++ meters out here in winter time.
10 meter is what we call "a beautiful day at the sea". Smile


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kumkss




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Oct 2006 23:17    Post subject:
wow!! but, that's far from the coast into the see??
the Pacific here is also agressive outside, but never with 20 mts waves!!
guess i gonna go sail there Very Happy would be nice to do some funboarding too!!
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Mchart




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Oct 2006 23:46    Post subject:
The bottom line is -

If you are not a gamer, and need more bandwidth then dial-up and you are unable to get cable or DSL, sattelite is for you. If you are a gamer though, sattelite sucks since you can expect to see ping times of 3 seconds. If you are a gamer and want something better then dialup, and you cant get any high-speed internet solutions, then I would highly reccomend ISDN.
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Noob
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Oct 2006 00:09    Post subject:
Yup, I mean for something like downloading off teh scene or usenets sat internets would be great
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kobi_game2




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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Oct 2006 00:17    Post subject:
X_Dror wrote:
Yes ofcourse.
Though only in high places like jerusalem and the north.
It's not snowing every year in Jerusalem but it is snowing every year and there is even a ski site on mount Hermon in the north.


lol once a year snows on jerusalem
last year wasnt snowing on jeruslam
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SycoShaman
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Oct 2006 02:39    Post subject:
I cant believe it snows in israel....I'd have to see something like that. Snow, in the mideast...? thats like snow in the bahama's...

You want to see snow? Visit Buffalo, NY and Fort Erie, Ontario. They get snow...like 2 feet of snow and shit...


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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Oct 2006 09:19    Post subject:
X_Dror wrote:
It's better than nothing.
I would love to have internet acess in the middle of the ocean Razz

My cosin got that when i he was in the navy. They mostly played Raven Shield on laptops, lol.
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X_Dror




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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Oct 2006 15:00    Post subject:
Hehe Razz
Must have been cool.
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TheGame110011001
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Oct 2006 15:10    Post subject:
but when you are in international waters... there are no copyright rules... maybe all pirate groups are hiding there Razz


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poullou




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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Oct 2006 15:17    Post subject:
SycoShaman wrote:
I cant believe it snows in israel....I'd have to see something like that. Snow, in the mideast...? thats like snow in the bahama's...

You want to see snow? Visit Buffalo, NY and Fort Erie, Ontario. They get snow...like 2 feet of snow and shit...


It snows here in the area as well. Evil or Very Mad
Canada might have ...I don't know...50-60% of 'civilized' world's snow Very Happy but we get a 0.0001% once in a while. Wink

So many dads work on ships here Shocked

Satelite will be the future, unless bush decides that there is a probability we hack his spy satelites Very Happy


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PostPosted: Tue, 24th Oct 2006 20:39    Post subject:
CRA$HH110011001 wrote:
but when you are in international waters... there are no copyright rules... maybe all pirate groups are hiding there Razz


Interesting idea!
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CobbMk2




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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Oct 2006 01:51    Post subject:
CRA$HH110011001 wrote:
but when you are in international waters... there are no copyright rules... maybe all pirate groups are hiding there Razz


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MAD_MAX333
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Oct 2006 03:08    Post subject:
fucking disconnected left an right... speed is slightly higher than a 56k... but not by much... i had a deal of 100 dollars for unlimited transfer.. THEN they decided to BY THEMSELVES switch my plan to 50 dollars a month for 50 megs of transfer.... but i was using the net for 16 hours a day and i would go through 50 megs a day atleast... so in the end of the month i got a nice fat 1800 dollar sat internet bill.
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