[PSP] Firmware 3.0 vs Firmware 2.71
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[sYn]
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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Oct 2006 12:54    Post subject: [PSP] Firmware 3.0 vs Firmware 2.71
With the recent announcement that Firmware 3.0 will be released TODAY (october 19th.. not officially confirmed by me though Wink)..will you be upgrading? Or staying with 2.71?

Personally I'm going to base it on the first few days off news from the "scene".. Id love to see it emulated, but 2.8 is yet to be emulated, so I don't hold a massive amount of hope for 3.0.. plus the option of PS gaming is a huge pull for me, something that is far greater than that off actual PSP games.. that does depend on how it is done though.. I dont want to be buying all off my old PS classics again just to play them on my PSP..

Edit: Its seems it wont be released today, but the date for release will be released today.. how annoying. Still, I want opinions, will it be worthwhile?
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ThOMaZ




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Oct 2006 13:09    Post subject:
will stick to 1.5 escpecially with killzone, fam guy and powerstone being released. and hopefulle metal gear will be playable too Smile


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DeMoN064




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Oct 2006 14:33    Post subject:
Nope, I will be staying at 1.50 because I hate being locked down in newer firmwares. It sucks. So i'll be waiting for an exploit/emulation. You will have to buy your retail PSX games again thats going to annoy me. Since i've already paid for them in the past. And any other features they throw in I wont be interested in because it can be done better in homebrew.

Remember, 2.80/2.81 has been fully decrpyted and is ready to be emulated on 1.50 booster (devhook dev) is still working on this. He has another site now and will be posting any updates on it i guess. Hopefully soon. Razz
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[sYn]
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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Oct 2006 14:35    Post subject:
Sounds good! I assume that there will be "scene" releases of the PSX games should it be a pay to download service.. I wouldn't be supprised if there was no .iso support, but it would piss me off.. lots.
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DeMoN064




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Oct 2006 14:42    Post subject:
Ha, Sony will lock down your PSP's MAC address to the PSX game and therefore no spreading of games. Razz .ISO format for PSX games? Ha. No chance. Very Happy

MAC Address locking can be done since it was proved by Fluff that deved the PSIX betas. Ugh. Since you had to pay for a copy of his homebrew and he locked it to your MAC address.
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SirCez




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Oct 2006 16:25    Post subject:
I have a little problem, when I put more than one .iso or.cso file insode the ISO folder PSP crashes when I try to load a game, sometimes it crashes when reading the UMD disc at the menu. I'm trying to emulate 2.71 using latest devhook. Do you guys have the same problem? And most of the games don't boot after selecting the UMD icon, it just goes to a blank black screen (e.g. Fifa 07, MEtal Gear Solid : Graphics Novel, Tekken and few more. All these games were clean iso's i think. I tried Metal Gear Acid 2 using a clean Iso didn't boot after selecting the UMD icon, just blank - black screen, but I tried the UMDRip that one worked. After seelcting the UMD icon in the menu, the PSP stops reading the memory card after a while. Can it be a memory card problem? I'm using Pro Dua 2GB.
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sTo0z
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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Oct 2006 16:58    Post subject:
I always stick by 1.5, wonderful things come to those who wait. Very Happy


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hiatus_gsw
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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Oct 2006 17:24    Post subject:
I promise I will upgrade when the FW version hits double digits...
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kbracing6




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Oct 2006 17:28    Post subject:
I myself am going to stick with the 1.50FW. But since I'm getting a PS3 I might just by another PsP and upgrade that one to this so called new firmware just for the PS3 compatibility.
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[sYn]
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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Oct 2006 17:37    Post subject:
DeMoN064 wrote:
Ha, Sony will lock down your PSP's MAC address to the PSX game and therefore no spreading of games. Razz .ISO format for PSX games? Ha. No chance. Very Happy

MAC Address locking can be done since it was proved by Fluff that deved the PSIX betas. Ugh. Since you had to pay for a copy of his homebrew and he locked it to your MAC address.


Pah! that wont stop people Razz! Your no doubt correct about the ability to use ISO's, but I can assure you that mac address lock downs wont stop piracy.. Someone will simply create a MAC spoofer or find a way to change the mac address within the files.. Sony wont be able to do anything too complex on the fly.

SirCez wrote:
I have a little problem, when I put more than one .iso or.cso file insode the ISO folder PSP crashes when I try to load a game, sometimes it crashes when reading the UMD disc at the menu. I'm trying to emulate 2.71 using latest devhook. Do you guys have the same problem? And most of the games don't boot after selecting the UMD icon, it just goes to a blank black screen (e.g. Fifa 07, MEtal Gear Solid : Graphics Novel, Tekken and few more. All these games were clean iso's i think. I tried Metal Gear Acid 2 using a clean Iso didn't boot after selecting the UMD icon, just blank - black screen, but I tried the UMDRip that one worked. After seelcting the UMD icon in the menu, the PSP stops reading the memory card after a while. Can it be a memory card problem? I'm using Pro Dua 2GB.


Not sure, it could be your stick.. You may have one of those fakes that have been floating around, I hear they are not very reliable.. Did you get it from EBAY shipped from one of the far eastern countries?

Personally Im on 2.71 now and having no issues at all.. Very Happy
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SirCez




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Oct 2006 18:25    Post subject:
Is there a way to tell whether it's fake or not?
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DeMoN064




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Oct 2006 19:31    Post subject:
[sYn] wrote:


Pah! that wont stop people Razz! Your no doubt correct about the ability to use ISO's, but I can assure you that mac address lock downs wont stop piracy.. Someone will simply create a MAC spoofer or find a way to change the mac address within the files.. Sony wont be able to do anything too complex on the fly.


The files will be signed, Therefore you won't be able to change them because if you do the game won't boot. You also won't be able to change the MAC address of the PSP because you can't run homebrew in 3.00 Razz

SirCez wrote:
Is there a way to tell whether it's fake or not?


Ask yourself.. Did I get this from Ebay?

If Yes = Fake
If No = Not Fake Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Oct 2006 19:35    Post subject:
Stick with 1.5 untill 3.0 is emulated... all this new stuff sony are putting in 3.00 will most likely lead to someone finding a new exploit (Eg via the GPS or PSX Emu etc etc)

2.81 is decrypted so I think Booster is just waiting till GTA VCS is released to release his version 2.81 Devhook


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SirCez




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Oct 2006 19:47    Post subject:
I bought it from Ebay but it was an UK seller and when i received it looked perfect. By the way it takes more than 10 minutes to transfer 1Gig using USP2. Is that normal?
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DeMoN064




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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Oct 2006 19:57    Post subject:
SirCez wrote:
I bought it from Ebay but it was an UK seller and when i received it looked perfect. By the way it takes more than 10 minutes to transfer 1Gig using USP2. Is that normal?


http://forums.vr-zone.com/showthread.php?s=2c682d8532bca1af1c379cf8c9b4f613&t=59400

That should help.
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whoKnows
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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Oct 2006 20:21    Post subject:
I will upgrade to whatever firmware version vcs needs, guess it will be 2.8 wich i already have on my psp Wink
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[sYn]
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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Oct 2006 17:57    Post subject:
FOR FUCK SAKE!

http://uk.psp.ign.com/articles/740/740691p1.html

I hate sony.. I'm going to set my PSP on fire..
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whoKnows
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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Oct 2006 18:07    Post subject:
Crap, i hope they fix that shit with a firmware update, but i doubt it. They are trying everything they can to promote the PS3 Neutral
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[sYn]
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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Oct 2006 18:08    Post subject:
Yeah Sad! My guess is that pirated versions will still appear, and there could still be hope for ripping and editing our own games.. we shall see I guess..
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DeMoN064




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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Oct 2006 18:24    Post subject:
I think it will be integrated into the PSP later on, Its just sony wanting more money/sales for PS3 consoles. Razz I won't be getting one. Xbox360 FTW!

I also find it unlikely there will be any pirated versions of the PSX emulated titles for a while, Well until 3.0 is exploited.
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[sYn]
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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Oct 2006 18:37    Post subject:
I disagree, the files still need to be held on the MS, taking them off that is clearly no issue, the next step is to figure out how they are locked down (IF they are locked down..)..

I wont be buying a PS3 either, not unless sony pulls some big ass titles out of there ass that interest me.. GO X360!
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PostPosted: Fri, 20th Oct 2006 19:54    Post subject:
Steve-O 2004 wrote:
Stick with 1.5 untill 3.0 is emulated... all this new stuff sony are putting in 3.00 will most likely lead to someone finding a new exploit (Eg via the GPS or PSX Emu etc etc)

2.81 is decrypted so I think Booster is just waiting till GTA VCS is released to release his version 2.81 Devhook


if hes smart, yeah.

as long as sony THINK theres no way to emulate it, they'll feel safer releasing new games still relying on 2.8, so yeah... im HOPING thats the only reason its still not released.
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[sYn]
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PostPosted: Sat, 21st Oct 2006 17:07    Post subject:
Quote:
You guys really got into discussing the PSP-PS3 downloading issue when we first talked about it. It's a good thing that news changes over time, or we'd all probably be depressed by the apparent need to get a PS3 to download and play PS1 games on the PSP.

According to Game Daily Biz, earlier reports of the PS3 being required to get PS1 games were premature, as they were able to ask Peter Dille, SCEA's Senior VP for Marketing, for more information. It appears that you don't really need a PS3 to be able to download PS1 games because the PSP emulation plan, as well as the PSP downloads site for PS1 games, will still push through.

Let's take it straight from Peter Dille:

We have the PSP downloads site now, and you're right; these PS1 games will be available either from the PSP downloads site directly, so you don't need a PS3 to get them or if you do happen to be one of the lucky guys that gets a PS3, you can download the games to your PS3 hard drive and then slide it over to your PSP. Both services will be up and running.

Can we get an "Amen!" here? This is great news for those of us who'll have to wait to get a PS3 unit, and will definitely lessen the number of PS3-related muggings in the next few months. Thank goodness!


Ok im happy again now Very Happy..
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