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Jenni
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Jan 2007 14:23    Post subject: EAX
How much of a difference does it make.
Plus are those Medusa 5.1 headphones any good?


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Jan 2007 17:04    Post subject:
since i bought my Audigy 4 last year i cant´t imagine playing without it. And thats not a top of the line card the newer ones are supposedly superior in every way.
Dont´t know about ´Medusa 5.1, i use a pair of Zalman 5.1 that i acuired a couple of years ago and they still do the trick i rally noticed the difference when i got the audigy, but it also depends on the game Hl2 has great surround
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Jan 2007 17:18    Post subject:
Got my X-Fi Xtreme Gamer Fatality card before Xmas, running with a pair of Steel Sound 5H headphones...No going back I tell you. Gaming is like friggin 7.1 stereo in your headphones. I actually never use my speakers anymore...sorta.


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Jan 2007 18:18    Post subject:
I agree. Although I've just got an el cheapo 5.1 card I totally intend to get a more superior card next week. These Medusa's are bloody amazing. I love the way the bass vibrates your head too.
Fantastic. Worth every penny of the £60 I just spent on them.


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Jan 2007 18:29    Post subject:
Wow, this Medusa looks great! Might actually pick it up, it's what I've been looking for for a few weeks now...
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Jenni
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Jan 2007 18:34    Post subject:
I would most vertainly get one. Go for the 3.5mm jackplug one rather than the solely USB one. I'm told the jack one is much better. Although the jack one has a USB connector it's just for sound.


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Jan 2007 18:40    Post subject:
The Steel Sound 5H are similar USB and jack. I got a cheap "Y" connector/splitter Like this That way I can use the phones and if i want just switch on my speakers without swapping and stuff.


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Jan 2007 18:47    Post subject:
any 5.1/7.1 headphones are pure crap..

just read head-fi forums where professionals are talking.

i bought audio-technica ath-a500 and a900 some time ago..

now chasing for used sennheiser oprheus he-60 or 90 for $4500 or something like that.. Razz

believe me, professional stereo headphones gives you much higher soundstage than these crappy 5.1 ones (i have medusa 5.1 one in home even). that Zalman one was pure CRAP


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Jenni
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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Jan 2007 18:57    Post subject:
But stereo and gaming are completely different kettle of fishes. Same with home cinema sound.


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Jan 2007 18:59    Post subject:
I use Seinnheiser stereo headphones and I can hear from which direction a sound is coming in any EAX/surround sound game perfectly.


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Jan 2007 19:00    Post subject:
I agree 100% there Jenni. X-Fi/EAX is GREAT! for gaming, for music, well it sounds cool and all. But hey i am no Hi-Fi freak and honestly I don't care. Gaming is ALL! and the rest is for free, you catch my drift Wink


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Jan 2007 19:29    Post subject:
Well I'm a home cinema buff and a gamer. Actually my other half is a home cinema buff and I caught the bug. I know for a fact that to say you can use this for gaming and the same thing for music is 100% bullshit. It's like using chopsticks to eat baked beans.
It would work, but hell you won't get the same effect.


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Jan 2007 20:05    Post subject:
It's a different case with headphones than with speakers. I got a home cinema myself and the whole shebangs, so it's not like I'm talking out of my ass.


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Jan 2007 20:23    Post subject:
Christ give me credit. Theres home cinema and theres home cinema.


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PostPosted: Fri, 19th Jan 2007 20:39    Post subject:
i said good stereo headphones produce much more better soundstage (i meant surround). just buy some X-Fi and enable CMSS. i just tried for a test Medusa 5.1 and my Audio-Technica ones.. nope, Medusa doesn't make any nice surround environment feeling + it sounds like a Lada when pushing pedal

cmss is like Creative's Dolby and EAX implementation which works eveywhere in the games that doesn't support EAX..


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Jenni
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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jan 2007 09:39    Post subject:
I seriously doubt you get good gaming sounds on a stereo headphones than on a made for gaming headset.


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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jan 2007 10:37    Post subject:
Jenni wrote:
I seriously doubt you get good gaming sounds on a stereo headphones than on a made for gaming headset.


let's talk about some reality here then

5.1 headphones have (at least Medusa) 6 speakers - 3 inside left clapper and 3 inside right clapper.

when is 5.1 in advantage? when speakers are placed in front of you and back of you (that makes surround feeling). in headphones speakers are located a couple of mm's from each other. basically human must have 4 ears to get the advantage of headphone real surround.

it's more like marketing trick (just like the Razer mouse, mat, etc) to flatter gamers. many of them really do say (as well as some review sites) that 5.1 headphones are nice, but then i ask them: have they ever heard with good stereo headphones that's amped and have good magnets?

edit: ofc good stereo headphones begin at $250-300 (5.1 headphones are around 90). i got my a500's from audiocubes only for ~$100 +EU taxes because they came from Japan. the shop price for these are around $200 and they say in Head-Fi forums these are budget headphones Smile my dream is to get used Orpheus for around $4000, they cost at new around 16 000 (i don't even know if Sennheiser is developing anymore).

Orpheus suite looks like this:

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Jenni
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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jan 2007 12:32    Post subject:
Try as you might to convince me it's not working. I've got the headphones on now and well I can tell you they are quite good at directional sounding. Certainly much better than the Sony headphones I was using. Which were coincidently music headphones. Tell me, if i snapped my fingers 85 degrees then snapped my fingers again at 95 degrees, could you not tell they're coming from a different direction?


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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jan 2007 12:35    Post subject:
The other prob is to find good headphones with a MICROPHONE! there is no "good" "Hi-Fi" phones to my knowledge with that, or? And I would not call my self a gamer with a Headset without a Mic!


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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jan 2007 12:38    Post subject:
Get a Sennheiser with a microphone, CaptainCox. Excellent quality STEREO headset (yeah, I like mocking Jenni Very Happy).


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PostPosted: Sat, 20th Jan 2007 12:43    Post subject:
Anyone tried the Razer Barracuda HP-1. Sure Big Bucks, but I wonder if they are also Big Bang Razz
http://www.ocia.net/reviews/barracuda/page1.shtml

EDIT: yea used to have a pair of Sennheiser's, can't remember the model, sure good stuff, but at that time I used to sleep with my headphones and I fuked them up. I wrote a thread about this in the "hardware" section a while back. Prob is with them is that they don't cover the whole ear. My Steels does that and its so much more comfortable.


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PostPosted: Sun, 21st Jan 2007 00:48    Post subject:
i got some Sennheiser HD 25's

I use them from djing aswell... but fucking brilliant headphones
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