DirectX 11.2 announced, Windows 8.1 exclusive (+ Xbone)
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consolitis
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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Jun 2013 10:37    Post subject: DirectX 11.2 announced, Windows 8.1 exclusive (+ Xbone)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=66622956&postcount=1

One feature is "Automatic GPU memory paging/tiling" which will also work on the Xbone so I guess it comes with 11.2 support.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=66465986&postcount=1

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They showed a full scene using 3GB of texture data rendered by a GPU limited to 16MB memory at the Build keynote. This feature seems to DirectX11.1 (or 11.2) exclusive.


AMD already supports something like this calling it "Partial Resident Textures" as a form of Megatexture. Doom 4 will be built with this in mind. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=34249816&postcount=1


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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Jun 2013 10:41    Post subject:
And I thought it was just a 11.1 update, so they are actually calling it 11.2 then interesting.
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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Jun 2013 10:44    Post subject:
But how exactly will this improve gaming?


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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Jun 2013 10:46    Post subject:
Prefetian wrote:
But how exactly will this improve gaming?


Just another API that makes it easy for developers. Now they won't have to do any special work to basically stream in new textures, or buy into an engine that already does it.
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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Jun 2013 11:18    Post subject:
Mchart wrote:
Prefetian wrote:
But how exactly will this improve gaming?


Just another API that makes it easy for developers. Now they won't have to do any special work to basically stream in new textures, or buy into an engine that already does it.

Nice try, but no Razz

That's not what texture tiling is or does. Virtual texturing takes one huge texture and splits it up into tiles; for each tile there's still separate detail levels (mipmap), so as you get closer it loads better quality. It resembles texture streaming in that it goes up as you get closer, but unlike streaming it never loads the whole texture.

No engine other than Tech 4.1 does this and they fucked it up. This stuff is especially good for terrain and large obviously, as MS' demo showed. Allows them to create huge textures and use them at just a fraction of their real size, because all the game loads are small tiles (64k for AMD's PRT, not sure what the limit is in this one). for the parts that need it.
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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Jun 2013 11:31    Post subject:
So just a ploy for them to force us to win8... Laughing


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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Jun 2013 12:11    Post subject:
will we need new gfx cards for this to be compatible?
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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Jun 2013 12:11    Post subject:
Very much doubt it.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Jun 2013 12:24    Post subject:
oh man, I don't want to touch win8 with a stick.. where's windows 9?


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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Jun 2013 12:26    Post subject:
meh, wake me up when dx12 is out in 2016
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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Jun 2013 12:29    Post subject:
wait, arent the next gen consoles gfx cards only dx11.1?
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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Jun 2013 12:44    Post subject:
Microsoft : We listened to people , they raged ... so we think they like RAGE , thats why our win8.1 will have dx11.2 so you can play RAGE. We think megatexture will help our console be nr1 again.
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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Jun 2013 12:47    Post subject:
my GFX will be outdated again Sad damn u Microsoft Mad


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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Jun 2013 12:49    Post subject:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EswYdzsHKMc#at=113

So in other words, when this is used in games, you dont need shitloads of VRAM. Also he says that it runs on DX11 cards (they used GTX 770).
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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Jun 2013 16:21    Post subject:
Win 8 with "Startisback" is actually an improved Win 7. I enjoy it that way... no more metro!
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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Jun 2013 16:32    Post subject:
16Mb?

So I can revert back to my Voodoo 3 ?
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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Jun 2013 16:34    Post subject:
what a bullshit Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Jun 2013 16:49    Post subject:
This is actually a very smart thing. Now, as I'd hate to see MS pulling their tech train alone and exclusively on theirs latest OS versions, I really hope a version of it may be implemented into OpenGL.
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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Jun 2013 16:56    Post subject:
remyleblau wrote:
what a bullshit Very Happy

lol wut

This shit is more interesting to get than tessellation.

fawe4 wrote:
This is actually a very smart thing. Now, as I'd hate to see MS pulling their tech train alone and exclusively on theirs latest OS versions, I really hope a version of it may be implemented into OpenGL.

AMD already built an extension for OpenGL. Sadly doesn't work for Nvidia, but OpenGL extensions rarely do (work on both major vendors). So if Nvidia want to, they can easily do it.
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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Jun 2013 17:13    Post subject:
MORPHINEUS wrote:
So just a ploy for them to force us to win8... Laughing


this ^

what other reason is there to not release it on win7 as its the same fuckin core


and i couldnt give less of a fuck about "megatextures" they still have a long ass way to go to be attractive (as do i :O )
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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Jun 2013 17:57    Post subject:
Kein wrote:
16Mb?

So I can revert back to my Voodoo 3 ?


The Xbone comes with 32MB of ESRAM so it's probably why they are promoting this feature.


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Jun 2013 18:22    Post subject:
Phil2003 wrote:
Win 8 with "Startisback" is actually an improved Win 7. I enjoy it that way... no more metro!


I'm just hoping when 8.1 is out (not the preview) that M$ don't do something to kill off every Start menu program like the above so it forces people to use their Start Screen.... I like my Start button ! Yeah 8 is okay with Startisback.


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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Jun 2013 18:53    Post subject:
Breezer_ wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EswYdzsHKMc#at=113

So in other words, when this is used in games, you dont need shitloads of VRAM. Also he says that it runs on DX11 cards (they used GTX 770).


So if The Witcher 3 does this, we won't need to upgrade our hardware to run that game? Smile


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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Jun 2013 20:02    Post subject:
Werelds wrote:

lol wut

This shit is more interesting to get than tessellation.


it's interesting but it requires windows idiocracy Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Jun 2013 20:25    Post subject:
Il_Padrino wrote:
Breezer_ wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=EswYdzsHKMc#at=113

So in other words, when this is used in games, you dont need shitloads of VRAM. Also he says that it runs on DX11 cards (they used GTX 770).


So if The Witcher 3 does this, we won't need to upgrade our hardware to run that game? Smile

Yep, VRAM is all that matters on GPUs.

lol at making it Win8 exclusive, I thought they would've learned from Vista.
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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Jun 2013 20:29    Post subject:
windows 8 and xbone exclusive? They can fuck off.


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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Jun 2013 20:32    Post subject:
Drowning_witch wrote:
it's interesting but it requires windows idiocracy Crying or Very sad

It was to be expected though. MS are going for "MS Exclusive" shit, which means Windows 8 + tvtvtvtvtvtvtv. Windows 8 is shit on desktops in the sense that it requires some tinkering to get rid of immensely tablet focused UI, but underneath it's still very much the same OS with some nice improvements (the file transfer dialogs are win).

Personally? Don't care. I'll install 8 if I have to, I only use my PC for gaming and browsing anymore so Metro wouldn't even really bother me. Work I do on my laptop so...meh.
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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Jun 2013 20:33    Post subject:
I am not going near W8, so they can suck a dick. Who am I kidding, they are sucking a dick anyway. Two fucking things I won't be going near, lol fucking idiots


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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Jun 2013 20:46    Post subject:
ENOUGH of your fancy words PC master racists.
How will this be a benefit for me as a PC derp?!?!? Rage


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PostPosted: Thu, 27th Jun 2013 21:06    Post subject:
Prefetian wrote:
ENOUGH of your fancy words PC master racists.
How will this be a benefit for me as a PC derp?!?!? Rage


bigger and prettier game worlds brah.

Werelds wrote:
Drowning_witch wrote:
it's interesting but it requires windows idiocracy Crying or Very sad

It was to be expected though. MS are going for "MS Exclusive" shit, which means Windows 8 + tvtvtvtvtvtvtv. Windows 8 is shit on desktops in the sense that it requires some tinkering to get rid of immensely tablet focused UI, but underneath it's still very much the same OS with some nice improvements (the file transfer dialogs are win).

Personally? Don't care. I'll install 8 if I have to, I only use my PC for gaming and browsing anymore so Metro wouldn't even really bother me. Work I do on my laptop so...meh.


yeah, i will update as well when exclusivity comes knocking, just to see the latest shit on my screen, but I will kick and scream just to be PC Master Race :lol
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