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GestaltO




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Apr 2007 21:07    Post subject: Code.Name.The.Cleaner.R5.LINE.XviD-CAMERA
OK. so ive got a few gripes with this one, i hope nobody takes anything the wrong way as its more of a query really, sort of...i guess...i dunno. Anyway.

nfo states in notes that its cbr studio line audio ac3 5.1 now i dont posess to be an expert but these screen shots say otherwise.




now for my question. in gspot it gives an avi overhead of 1.06% would this make the audio out of sync, cos it is. seemingly all the way through from what i looked at!

i've now got the enjoyable task of resyncing the audio....one of my favourite jobs in the world! Rolling Eyes

If i am correct about all of the above should this not have been nuked. if not for the nfo stating different (cos that would be a pretty poor reason..ya know could have been from a previous nfo template or sumthin) but for the audio sync issues?

Feel the need to say this is not a direct shot at CAMERA either i respect what they and all other groups do! Wink
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nouseforaname
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Apr 2007 21:13    Post subject:
what does avi overhead have to do with audio?

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GestaltO




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Apr 2007 21:18    Post subject:
well i didnt "think" it would, i'm pretty well versed but not to the level of a proper ripper i imagine. so i was checking. hence i said "would" this make the audio out of sync?. thanks for the clarification. Smile

since the above i have done some reading. although i am still not sure if it has anything to do with audio being out of sync. the avi overhead is CAUSED by the audio samples/chunks!
see
http://www.virtualdub.org/blog/pivot/entry.php?id=27


not being a smartass or anything i just like to learn somthing if i dont know. i have a thirst for knowledge. if anyone else can shed light on the matter that'd be great.
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nouseforaname
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Apr 2007 21:41    Post subject:
avi overhead is just the space required by the file format (ie the container the video is kept in) ... more is required for VBR audio.

I don't think you can say anything about sync based on it... I think bad sync is just caused by a bad job of sticking audio back with the video... also, sometimes some people experience sync issues while others do not on the same video ... no idea why...

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GestaltO




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Apr 2007 21:55    Post subject:
ok cool. thanks for the info dude. on that link it actually kinda describes why some people experience bad sync on a vid while other dont on the same. its due to poor interleaving,

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That doesn't mean that interleaving doesn't affect performance, and if a player has strict playback constraints as hardware devices often do, poor interleave may render a player unable to maintain correct sync or even uninterrupted playback. However, a non-realtime conversion on a hard disk (or other random access medium) on a PC should not have such constraints.


since i tried "transcoding" (hate that word....sounds weird. dunno why) with 2 seperate programs and played on 2 different machines i would conclude this defo should have been nuked. but im just one person and just could be real unlucky i guess, but ive not had probs before Sad

resyncing as we speak
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nouseforaname
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Apr 2007 22:00    Post subject:
hmm ... hardware constraints ... probably why every now and then an avi plays out of sync on my standalone and in sync on my computer Sad

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GestaltO




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Apr 2007 22:03    Post subject:
ive never had a problem with my standalone actually come to think of it. not since i got my new one about 8 months ago. what standalone do you have out of curiosity?
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GestaltO




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Apr 2007 22:17    Post subject:
well anyways after looking at the file on numerous players and my standalone and a different player it goes in and out of sync all the way throughfrom what i can see so i aint resyncing that cos it'll take too long. so its getting deleted n i'll wait for a dvdrip Sad
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nouseforaname
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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Apr 2007 23:01    Post subject:
GestaltO wrote:
ive never had a problem with my standalone actually come to think of it. not since i got my new one about 8 months ago. what standalone do you have out of curiosity?


philips dvp642 .. it's ok I guess since it plays both pal and ntsc and it's cheap:)

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GestaltO




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Apr 2007 23:18    Post subject:
i got a yamada dvd-mi220x. ive used yamada since i started with standalone divx/xvid about 4-5 years ago. and i swear by them. they get better and better each time and they are cheap too! my latest one i havent come across a format it wont play so far.
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membre999




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PostPosted: Tue, 10th Apr 2007 23:21    Post subject:
About AC3:

Code.Name.The.Cleaner.R5.LINE.XviD-CAMERA - synched direct line (pure) CBR audio.

Code.Name.The.Cleaner.R5.READNFO.XViD-mVs - studio AC3 5.1.
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GestaltO




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Apr 2007 10:13    Post subject:
Thanks membre999/ My bad i really didnt even notice there were 2 rls's what a tit!! Apologies to CAMERA. i retract my statements about the AC3 thing, not about the syncing though.
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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Apr 2007 13:04    Post subject:
check it out

Code.Name.The.Cleaner.R5.READNFO.XViD-mVs - NUKED: dupe.camera.2007-04-05

Code.Name.The.Cleaner.DVDRip.XviD-LMG - Pre'd 7 hours 24 minutes 48 seconds ago (2007-04-10)
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GestaltO




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PostPosted: Wed, 11th Apr 2007 15:02    Post subject:
Nice. cheers ToCS.

edit: getting it now. i need to get myself some decent axx again god damnit!
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