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Phluxed
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...and i'm one of those people that hates them.
Not by choice, i'd like to be able to get into a game that you can never really complete. It's just they bore me to tears, and i've tried alot.
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Freudian
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| Posted: Sun, 29th Apr 2007 02:11 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: | ...and i'm one of those people that hates them.
Not by choice, i'd like to be able to get into a game that you can never really complete. It's just they bore me to tears, and i've tried alot. |
But you CAN complete them. Just terminate your account... End of story.
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| Posted: Sun, 29th Apr 2007 02:42 Post subject: |
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For fucks sake they just had to didnt they >_<
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| Posted: Sun, 29th Apr 2007 03:05 Post subject: |
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KOTOR, a game that thrives on immersion and plot - two things which MMO's are so thus far void of. High hopes? Well.. It's still Bioware! have they put a foot wrong yet?
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| Posted: Sun, 29th Apr 2007 03:45 Post subject: |
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mmo =
1) grind
2) bot
3) profit
4) zzz
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| Posted: Sun, 29th Apr 2007 04:27 Post subject: |
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If you want KOTOR MMO you got Star wars galaxies.I cant stand MMOs'.They are for people with no life.
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mYslead
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| Posted: Sun, 29th Apr 2007 04:59 Post subject: |
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| Freudian wrote: | | AnimalMother wrote: | ...and i'm one of those people that hates them.
Not by choice, i'd like to be able to get into a game that you can never really complete. It's just they bore me to tears, and i've tried alot. |
But you CAN complete them. Just terminate your account... End of story. |
by the looks of it, World of Warcraft (the one and only) might have somewhat of an end.
by end i mean : they might put Arthas in it as a raid boss.
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Weedo
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| Posted: Sun, 29th Apr 2007 08:23 Post subject: |
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| AnimalMother wrote: |
Not by choice, i'd like to be able to get into a game that you can never really complete. |
That's the exact same reason why I don't like them! You can't complete it, it has no ending - it's pointless!
I was hoping for a KOTOR3 for next-gen.....
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| Posted: Sun, 29th Apr 2007 10:25 Post subject: |
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To gamedude07:
And i quote "I cant stand MMOs'.They are for people with no life."
Im in my 30's my own buisness and I play mmo's along with everyother game under the sun..
Grow up you little shit, learn some understanding of life before you tar everyone with your pathetic little brush...
If your older than 20 I would be truly suprised for that sentence to come out of your mouth..
Enjoy,
James.
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Ispep
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| Posted: Sun, 29th Apr 2007 12:52 Post subject: |
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| Radamez wrote: | | KOTOR, a game that thrives on immersion and plot - two things which MMO's are so thus far void of. High hopes? Well.. It's still Bioware! have they put a foot wrong yet? |
Neverwinter Nights? Stale, boring, sterile...
The only thing KOTOR had going for it, was the emphatic, realistic NPC characters, the dialogue and the plot. Three things that simply cannot exist in the current framework of any mainstream MMORPG. |
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Kondor
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| Posted: Sun, 29th Apr 2007 13:30 Post subject: |
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Tons of marketing guys see Blizard rolling in $$$ with their WOW project, so they think they can do the same... If you ask me, it's a plain waste of developer resources especially when a new MMORPG comes out every month.
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kalato
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| Posted: Sun, 29th Apr 2007 14:39 Post subject: |
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True, usually when an MMORPG comes from a developer such as Bioware, Blizzard then those MMORPG's will be successful because of the fact that the company's have such good reputation's.
I like bum.
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| Posted: Sun, 29th Apr 2007 17:08 Post subject: |
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| Ispep wrote: |
The only thing KOTOR had going for it, was the emphatic, realistic NPC characters, the dialogue and the plot. Three things that simply cannot exist in the current framework of any mainstream MMORPG. |
ONLY?
That's something KOTOR has that about 1 in 10000 games have these days that made KOTOR win.
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Ispep
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| Posted: Sun, 29th Apr 2007 17:32 Post subject: |
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I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to say?
KOTOR/2 were ADVENTURE GAMES, you walked the linear path, warmed to the characters. enjoyed the banter and immersed yourself in the story. As an RPG it was lacking quite a lot, but viewed as a novel you played once and then threw away? Well it was a highly enjoyable experience. Still, all that aside, the point I was making was that the stuff it had going for it would disappear the moment it turned into a MMORPG. I wasn't diminishing the game or it's merits.
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Parallax_
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| Posted: Sun, 29th Apr 2007 19:21 Post subject: |
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| Ispep wrote: | | KOTOR/2 were ADVENTURE GAMES, |
Eh, no way man. You need to reread the definitions of Adventure and RPG.  |
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Ispep
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| Posted: Sun, 29th Apr 2007 20:21 Post subject: |
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Literally speaking they were adventure games. Somewhat akin to the difference between the 'choose your own adventure' Fighting Fantasy type books and your typical pen & paper role playing game; A strong narrative with some choice along the way (although having said that there are some books out there, like the brilliant Fabled Land's series, which are very open-ended, but that's not the point).
Anyway, there were very few real opportunities for role-playing in KOTOR/2 and the dark/light side choices were extremely obvious and in one of the titles (I forget which) the ending (you're choice; light or dark) all depended on one conversation you had towards the end.
So for me at least they are more aptly described as adventure games.
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| Posted: Sun, 29th Apr 2007 23:38 Post subject: |
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Actually, it's a mix.
Argument officially closed.
Blame! don't act!
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Ispep
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Apr 2007 00:27 Post subject: |
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Well, firstly it's no argument (at least, not one that requires you to officiate it's closure). Secondly you give no reasoning for why it's more aptly considered a 'mix' (whatever that is). You could argue semantics all day as to what genre it does technically fit in but the point was that in my experience, and opinion, they are best described as 'adventure' games. I've stated my reasoning above.
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javlar
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Apr 2007 00:53 Post subject: |
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| moosenoodles wrote: | To gamedude07:
And i quote "I cant stand MMOs'.They are for people with no life."
Im in my 30's my own buisness and I play mmo's along with everyother game under the sun..
Grow up you little shit, learn some understanding of life before you tar everyone with your pathetic little brush...
If your older than 20 I would be truly suprised for that sentence to come out of your mouth..
Enjoy,
James. |
Relax will you.
For someone in their thirties I find your choice of words, such as "Grow up you little shit", very much like those of a juvenile.
And not to get all psychoanalyst on you but if reading a post that says "MMO'ers have no life" (a phrase that's been used infinity plus one already) in a thread on some warez news-site gets you all pissed and personal.. That leads me to believe that you do have some sort of problem with your gaming that is showing in your apparent aggressive behavior
I know the feeling, I play WoW and about a year ago I played it a shitload because I was unemployed. And I know that if someone brought up the fact that I wasn't going out as much, seeing my friends as much or in any other way implicated that I had no life, I would get super-pissed too.
It's all part of the MMO-sickness
As for the actual topic. FUCK NO. Don't give us another MMO, especially not a KOTOR MMO. As someone already said we have Galaxies, no need to ruin one of the most anticipated RPG sequels with a MMO.
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Phluxed
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Apr 2007 02:56 Post subject: |
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As much as I agree with the statement "No to Kotor MM", I'm still intrigued as to what Bioware would have in store. If you accept this is their next project, you might get a little excited as to what they can bring to the genre.. maybe something new and unique... but more likely, the same old shit... and this coming from an MM fan.
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scanberg_
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Apr 2007 03:24 Post subject: |
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Why wont people understand ?
real life costs $$$$$$$
virtual life costs 15$ per month
not all of us are some unemployed germans or kids feeding of rich parents you know....most of us can't afford a life ):
losers
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Ispep
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| Posted: Mon, 30th Apr 2007 23:44 Post subject: |
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Crushing. Really. When you have a point let us all know
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vurt
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| Posted: Tue, 1st May 2007 09:17 Post subject: |
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@Ispep: Lol KOTOR an Adventure? how stupid is that? The KOTOR games are RPGs if you like it or not they may be linear and storyfocused but they are certanly no Adventures, Adventures dont have combat (most of them), stats,character development and most of them rely on puzzles, so how can the KOTOR games be anything other then an RPGs? hell its even written on the gamebox.
@ vurt: there is no turnbased combat in KOTOR its realtime with pause like all other Bioware titles bevore, realtime with pause is not the same thing as turnbased .
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| Posted: Tue, 1st May 2007 09:23 Post subject: |
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Bah gona have to wait for an emu for like 6 years xD
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vurt
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Parallax_
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| Posted: Tue, 1st May 2007 11:11 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 1st May 2007 12:56 Post subject: |
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| vurt wrote: |
If you play in turns it's turn based. You can select exactly how turn based (or not) you want it to be, there's the difference.
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Nah its not everything happens at the same time so it cant be turnbased.
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