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 Posted: Tue, 12th Jun 2007 23:02 Post subject: Overburning DVD media |
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can this damage my burner?
and what is the maximal overburn possible for a regular 4.7GB media?
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| Posted: Tue, 12th Jun 2007 23:15 Post subject: |
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Q:can this damage my burner?
A: Yes , if you will over use it
Q:what is the maximal overburn possible for a regular 4.7GB media?
A:It depends on the media , Use Nero CD-DVD Speed to find out how much you can overburning (Extras>OverBurning Test...)
Overburning will write data on line out giving you 100-250 mb more
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| Posted: Tue, 12th Jun 2007 23:25 Post subject: |
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checking it right now.
its the first time im using my dvd burner 
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Tue, 12th Jun 2007 23:31 Post subject: |
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Yeah, over burning is generally not recommended, as the media becomes unreliable and burners suffer in the process. And for what? Few more MBs? Not worth it.
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| Posted: Tue, 12th Jun 2007 23:38 Post subject: |
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why all my dvd's ae 4.38GB?? it says 4.7GB on the media.....
im using nero7 premium
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| Posted: Wed, 13th Jun 2007 00:01 Post subject: |
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DVDs are of a size of 4 700 000 000 bytes. That equals 4.7 GB (Notice the capital G, means 10^9, which is 1 000 000 000).
Computer files are measured in GiB (notice the "Gi", although most people still write GB, there is a difference, because GiB is not 10^9, but 2^30, which equals 1 073 741 824).
Therefore, the GB on the DVD refers to the 10^9, and the GB in Nero, refers to the 2^30 GB.
For better understanding, just divide 4 700 000 000 by 2^30.
However, mostly when you see terms of KB, MB and GB refering to computers, they stand for 2^10, 2^20, 2^30, although that's not the case with DVD manufacturers, obviously.
EDIT: and here's a quote from wikipedia:
A DVD-5 format disc is capable of storing 4.7 gigabytes, or roughly 4.38 gibibytes. A DVD-9 is capable of storing 8.5 gigabytes, or roughly 7.92 gibibytes.
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*sigh* Why are 320GB drives only 298GB? Different calculations... It's 4,700,000,000 bytes, however 1GB in Windows is 1,073,741,824, so do the math. 
[edit] Waa, beat me to it... 
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| Posted: Wed, 13th Jun 2007 06:44 Post subject: |
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You can also achieve the same effect by thinking like this:
burnable media/hdd producers think like this:
1gb = 1000mb
However when it comes to the real world
1gb = 1024mb.
So if you take 4 700 000 and divide with 1024 2 times you get down the the gb's...
Or you can of course take the previously mentioned direction and go with 2^30 and whatever...
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| Posted: Wed, 13th Jun 2007 07:54 Post subject: |
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Ok now I see.
thanks for the replies folks,much appreciated.
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| Posted: Wed, 13th Jun 2007 11:05 Post subject: |
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another question:
yesterday while trying "SilverLine" DVD+RW x4 media,i've noticed a weired thing,that I cant explain.
while burning it,it burned it at x2.72 - 2.60. while the media is x4,why??
maybe its because of my CPU??
the CPU was almost at 100% all the time and the system acted very slowly...
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| Posted: Wed, 13th Jun 2007 11:43 Post subject: |
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Because of crappy media your recorder limits the speed, buy more expensive dvds if you want higher speed.
Personaly I use Verbatim only, and for some reason, my shitty burner, won't take anything else (I fed it all kinds of crap like kvark, traxdata, whatever, everything gets destroyed(every single non-Verbatim dvd I fed it), but Verbatim never...)
EDIT: Or it might be because your DVD drive is running in PIO mode, since your CPU is at 100%. Go to Control Panel->System->Hardware->Device Manager->IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers->Choose primary or secondary IDE depending on which one your DVD unit is->Properties->Advanced Settings->And there under "Current transfer mode" it should say wether a device is in PIO or DMA mode. (If it's DMA it should say something like Ultra DMA Mode 6)
You might have a lot of Controller entries in that list, just check every one of them if you're not sure. NOTHING should be running in PIO.
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| Posted: Wed, 13th Jun 2007 16:57 Post subject: |
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| BearishSun wrote: | Because of crappy media your recorder limits the speed, buy more expensive dvds if you want higher speed.
Personaly I use Verbatim only, and for some reason, my shitty burner, won't take anything else (I fed it all kinds of crap like kvark, traxdata, whatever, everything gets destroyed(every single non-Verbatim dvd I fed it), but Verbatim never...)
EDIT: Or it might be because your DVD drive is running in PIO mode, since your CPU is at 100%. Go to Control Panel->System->Hardware->Device Manager->IDE ATA/ATAPI Controllers->Choose primary or secondary IDE depending on which one your DVD unit is->Properties->Advanced Settings->And there under "Current transfer mode" it should say wether a device is in PIO or DMA mode. (If it's DMA it should say something like Ultra DMA Mode 6)
You might have a lot of Controller entries in that list, just check every one of them if you're not sure. NOTHING should be running in PIO. |
PIO? isnt it an IDE thingy? my burner has a SATA interface. im not at home right now,so I cant check it. |
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| Posted: Wed, 13th Jun 2007 17:58 Post subject: |
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I think anything can run in PIO mode, in case of the controller not working properly, or being properly configured or detected. (My PATA hard-drive ran as a SCSI device once, because it was inproperly recognized by the controller, making it terribly slow)
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| Posted: Wed, 13th Jun 2007 19:46 Post subject: |
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I second that opinion about Verbatim. i always use it!
All my X360 games are burned on Verbatim 2.4x, however I overspeed to 8x with CloneCD and they all work great anyway..
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| Posted: Wed, 13th Jun 2007 21:22 Post subject: |
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| FreeDiver wrote: | another question:
yesterday while trying "SilverLine" DVD+RW x4 media,i've noticed a weired thing,that I cant explain.
while burning it,it burned it at x2.72 - 2.60. while the media is x4,why??
maybe its because of my CPU??
the CPU was almost at 100% all the time and the system acted very slowly... |
You may to consider updating the firmware on your burner too. Usually. when the firmware is updated it adds more types of media and sometimes gives better quality burns
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| Posted: Wed, 13th Jun 2007 22:36 Post subject: |
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| fazlez1 wrote: | | FreeDiver wrote: | another question:
yesterday while trying "SilverLine" DVD+RW x4 media,i've noticed a weired thing,that I cant explain.
while burning it,it burned it at x2.72 - 2.60. while the media is x4,why??
maybe its because of my CPU??
the CPU was almost at 100% all the time and the system acted very slowly... |
You may to consider updating the firmware on your burner too. Usually. when the firmware is updated it adds more types of media and sometimes gives better quality burns |
where can I find a newer firmware? tried google but to no avail.
I have : GSA-H62N burner,current firmware : CL00 |
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