[XBOX360] on a PC LCD monitor?
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Vodka-Redbull




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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Sep 2007 08:57    Post subject: [XBOX360] on a PC LCD monitor?
Umm, I was asked today how does X360 look on a 17" -19" LCD PC monitor (some friend wants to buy an X360). Well I don't know myself so maybe you can help me (and him)? Is it playable? Will it play at the monitors rez or...?


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azzman




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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Sep 2007 09:00    Post subject:
it will play at any rez via vga output. Should look fine, just like PC games would
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Sep 2007 09:03    Post subject:
big thx


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Vodka-Redbull




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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Sep 2007 09:04    Post subject:
one more question: will it play on CRT too?


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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Sep 2007 09:07    Post subject:
Yes def playable. Won't get full effect of HD graphics or anything, but it will be passable. I think playing on a computer monitor, esp if its widescreen is way more preferable to playing in SD using a regular tv set. I prefer the clear picture of a lcd/monitor over the blurry low res tv screen, even if the sd tv is significantly larger. About the only cons to this is that he will be required to purchase the VGA adapter(40 USD I believe?) and has to sit pretty close to the screen. No sitting on the couch 6-12 ft away or anything. And the VGA adapter does a ton of resolutions so he should be fine.


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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Sep 2007 09:10    Post subject:
thx again!


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azzman




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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Sep 2007 09:11    Post subject:
Im sure a lot of people are happy playing on a SD CRT. I tried it once and couldnt read small text at all
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Sep 2007 09:59    Post subject:
I have a normal non-hd tv and text was very small. very hard to read most of the time and it was pretty annoying.
so I got myself one of those cables and now I'm playing 360 on my 19" 1280x1024 native LCD and it looks a lot better.


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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Sep 2007 10:10    Post subject:
On a 19" 5:4 TFT in 1280x1024 the graphics look awesome but there are some problems. Some games have a wrong aspect ratio in 1280x1024 but it seems this problem is not common anymore. Also a few games have tearing problems (Dead Rising!! Mad ) and most games have black bars because they upscale the 720p signal to 1280x1024.
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Sep 2007 10:39    Post subject:
Tearing fix after update on Saint Row.

32" LCD is the perfect size ^^
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ezzzy




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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Sep 2007 10:47    Post subject: Re: [XBOX360] on a PC LCD monitor?
Vodka-Redbull wrote:
Umm, I was asked today how does X360 look on a 17" -19" LCD PC monitor (some friend wants to buy an X360). Well I don't know myself so maybe you can help me (and him)? Is it playable? Will it play at the monitors rez or...?


i ran i 360 on my 22 inch screen, 4ms reponse time, very washed out colors lots of blurring, a lot of poeple report that the colours are very washed out, i ended up getting a 42inch hd plasma, looks amazing,

i do think the crt may be ok though, but to get the best out of the 360 u gotta go HD

also if u think the360 on 19inch pc lcd is gonna look like it would on a 32 inch hd samung for example then it wont, pc lcd also struggle with the black colors very greyed out,

also i tryed n=many vga cable ms soft wernt much better than the third party ones.

at the the end of the day it up to u,


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RMFX




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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Sep 2007 10:54    Post subject: Re: [XBOX360] on a PC LCD monitor?
ezzzy wrote:
Vodka-Redbull wrote:
Umm, I was asked today how does X360 look on a 17" -19" LCD PC monitor (some friend wants to buy an X360). Well I don't know myself so maybe you can help me (and him)? Is it playable? Will it play at the monitors rez or...?


i ran i 360 on my 22 inch screen, 4ms reponse time, very washed out colors lots of blurring, a lot of poeple report that the colours are very washed out, i ended up getting a 42inch hd plasma, looks amazing,

i do think the crt may be ok though, but to get the best out of the 360 u gotta go HD
I'm guessing that it's probably because the 360 does not support the native resolution of your monitor. If it's a 1680x1050 widescreen then that's perfectly normal.
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ezzzy




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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Sep 2007 10:58    Post subject:
1680x1050 possible, but my plasma dont support 1680x1050, nor do the samsumg 32 inch hd ones which alot of 360 poeple use

i suppose if u pay top money for a pc lcd u might be allright


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Vodka-Redbull




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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Sep 2007 10:58    Post subject:
well, the problem is he can't afford a $1.5k telly right now but he has a lot of different monitors.


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RMFX




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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Sep 2007 10:59    Post subject:
ezzzy wrote:
1680x1050 possible, but my plasma dont support 1680x1050, nor do the samsumg 32 inch hd ones which alot of 360 poeple use
There is no option to select 1680x1050 in the menu of the 360. There's your problem.
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ezzzy




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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Sep 2007 11:06    Post subject:
RMFX wrote:
ezzzy wrote:
1680x1050 possible, but my plasma dont support 1680x1050, nor do the samsumg 32 inch hd ones which alot of 360 poeple use
There is no option to select 1680x1050 in the menu of the 360. There's your problem.


yeh i see your point,
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Sep 2007 11:10    Post subject:
Max resolution is 1280x1024 and yes its a good alternative if you dont have a HDTV.
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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Sep 2007 11:15    Post subject:
i connected once to iiyama 19" crt and i had a choice in res menu to choose 1600x1200

run on that res perfectly but flickering and black bars will screw everything up

360 can only run at 60hz, so it can be painfull for your eyes
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ezzzy




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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Sep 2007 11:19    Post subject:
maybe your mate should flash his firmware on his 360, and with all the ££ he saves on games go towards a 32 hd ready one lol thers a thought

good luck any how
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Sep 2007 13:29    Post subject:
Mortibus wrote:
i connected once to iiyama 19" crt and i had a choice in res menu to choose 1600x1200

run on that res perfectly but flickering and black bars will screw everything up

360 can only run at 60hz, so it can be painfull for your eyes
heard some games crash.. (or at least the last you see) the loading menu. Its fucking cheap with a 32" anyway... more chill to be laying on the sofa playing. Then you need a TV Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Sep 2007 13:59    Post subject:
stupid question alert

Why does everyone proclaim the awesome that is HD on LCD/plasma tv's versus pc monitors? Last I checked LCD monitors generally have a higher native resolution than tv's (my 22"@1680x1050 versus an "HD" lcd tv @1024x768)

Does my monitor not intrinsically have more "definition" than the equal size television, and does it honestly matter since both are capable of 720p? I'm going to have to assume there's more to being high def than resolution...

I wish I had the equipment, I'd love to have a 22" pc monitor and a 22" tv side by side running Dead Rising or Forza 2 and see which looks better.

As far as the OP, I have the 226bw Samsung running on both my pc and 360 (pc on DVI, 360 on vga) and I have zero complaints. Well, lack of 16:10 support could be a complaint, but everything looks good @1280x1024 set to Widescreen.


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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Sep 2007 15:35    Post subject:
running on 32" tv at 720p [1280x720] using composite cable loox much more sharper than on my 19" TFT WS 16:10 monitor using vga @1280x1024 WS, at least for me

not to mention the size and the sofa thing Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Sep 2007 23:38    Post subject:
Do all xbox games have a proper 4:3 mode (as in no cuts or stretches) or will they run in 16:9 mode with black bars?


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uberd0g




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PostPosted: Wed, 19th Sep 2007 23:48    Post subject:
I bought a VGA cable off ebay for £5 (about $10) brand new and I use my 360 on a 17inch Samsung 740NW. Only downside is I can't sit too far away from the screen.
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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Sep 2007 01:44    Post subject:
liansk wrote:
Do all xbox games have a proper 4:3 mode (as in no cuts or stretches) or will they run in 16:9 mode with black bars?


no, some may have black bars
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PostPosted: Thu, 20th Sep 2007 08:50    Post subject:
When the gf watch tv i play on my Eizo 24inch monitor and the image looks stunning, at least as good as on my 1080p sammy LCD maybe even better
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