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 Posted: Wed, 19th May 2010 11:40 Post subject: PC gaming revenue grew in 09 as retail PC game sales shrank |
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http://www.joystiq.com/2010/03/10/pc-gaming-revenue-grew-in-2009-as-retail-pc-game-sales-shrank/
| Quote: | Despite fears about the languishing PC game industry, revenue seems to have grown a bit in 2009. According to PC Gaming Alliance's Horizons Report, revenue hit $13.1 billion in 2009, versus $11 billion in 2008.
Don't expect that growth to translate to increased shelf space for PC games, however. The report notes that digital distribution sales are way up, as are the sales of virtual items. "In 2009 we saw North America and Europe experience a rapid uptake in purchasing virtual items," PCGA president Randy Stude said. "This model is what drove growth in Asia and we think it is just starting to come to Western markets."
As expected, given the rise in digital distribution, packaged game sales have dropped for a second year, now accounting for just 20 percent of PC game revenue. It appears that PC games are going to go all digital unless we start seeing some really awesome cloth maps. |
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| Posted: Wed, 19th May 2010 11:45 Post subject: |
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Who wants to pay for a dvd box + dvd ?
What is the revenue of the consoles, though ?
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| Posted: Wed, 19th May 2010 12:13 Post subject: |
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| VGAdeadcafe wrote: | Who wants to pay for a dvd box + dvd ?
What is the revenue of the consoles, though ? |
I do. I prefer packaged games, I love the manual and other stuff that comes with it.
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| Posted: Wed, 19th May 2010 12:16 Post subject: |
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+1 especially if the price of the boxed is exactly the same as the digital download one.
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| Posted: Wed, 19th May 2010 14:01 Post subject: |
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Even if it's a bit more expensive I always buy the box. Well unless it has got some uber pumped faggot on the front :/
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chiv
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| Posted: Wed, 19th May 2010 14:47 Post subject: |
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+1 from me as well for retail boxes. i love boxes. love the art design, love that i actually HAVE something tangible that i can look at and touch.. and yes, i love manuals too. fuck you ubisoft.
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| Posted: Wed, 19th May 2010 15:58 Post subject: |
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| VGAdeadcafe wrote: | Who wants to pay for a dvd box + dvd ?
What is the revenue of the consoles, though ? |
i think i posted console revenue before, but its something of 26bln, for all of them, and pc still claiming 30-33% of total..
so its far from dead.. considering how many consoles there are . xbox xbox360 ps2 psp ps3 wii ds, and all other crap i forget..
numbers obviously differ everywhere.. and some reports actually counts console hardware sales...which is clearly not games.. as noone counts how many gaming oriented pcs were sold... or parts..
but considering pc is 33% is safe bet
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| Posted: Wed, 19th May 2010 16:07 Post subject: |
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I prefer having the box+dvd+manual. However, lately the manuals have been really shitty. I want the old big boxes back with tons of fun stuff in and awsome manuals!
BUT as long as this profits the pc game creators...im fine with digital copies aswell.
shitloads of new stuff in my pc. Cant keep track of it all.
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| Posted: Wed, 19th May 2010 16:14 Post subject: |
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I live in Romania, most of the best games (quality kind of best, not sale-machines) never made it to retail stores here, and I live in the second largest city. We basically illegally downloaded everything, and bought the few rare original games we could find. Of course this changed about 5 years ago, but most old timers god used to not ever having manuals.
So naturally, digital distribution is very common here. Steam is popular, most my games are bought from there as well, because I couldn't find a retail copy anywhere.
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| Posted: Wed, 19th May 2010 16:17 Post subject: |
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Box + dvd for me too.
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| Posted: Wed, 19th May 2010 16:20 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Wed, 19th May 2010 16:21 Post subject: |
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I prefer retail boxes of games, especially with good design and content.
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| Posted: Wed, 19th May 2010 16:29 Post subject: |
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You losers, lol, that's why I said dvd box + dvd. I implied that some packages are too lite, placeholder manuals etc.
In ye old days, they were more substantial. The manual was the drm lol.
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| Posted: Wed, 19th May 2010 16:39 Post subject: |
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I always want the box and dvd, they can shove their digital downloads
Imagine future digital collector's editions, 4 shitty maps, 2 mp3s and an exclusive in-game butt plug, no thanks, I'll keep my Big Daddy, Fallout Bobblehead and nice artbooks
Boxed game sales are falling because it's harder and harder to find a decent selection, I can remember when the PC shelves took up the most room, nowadays if it's not just released or a budget version of a big game you're out of luck, people can't buy games that aren't on the shelves
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| Posted: Wed, 19th May 2010 16:43 Post subject: |
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That's in the OLD old days, priceless having to search through the fucking manual just to start Indiana Jones 
Personally, I quite like the digital downloads, because like some have said: the retail boxes are worthless now. My boxes of HL1, Fallout and the original Tomb Raider are still on my shelf though 
Also, if it helps smaller developers like Runic Games save a bucket of money, it's fine by me! :>
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| Posted: Wed, 19th May 2010 21:02 Post subject: |
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I'd take Digital if the prices were substantially cheaper than retail, but when your paying £10 more in the UK for a game through Steam than buying online for a box from game.co.uk then something is really wrong.
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| Posted: Thu, 20th May 2010 03:28 Post subject: |
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| Smikis. wrote: |
its cheap.. they overcharge cuz they get away with it..
and bandwidth is probably 5 times cheaper in eu than in usa.. doesnt change the fact that eu gets same price in euros.. |
It has at least as much to do with the fact that publishers are scared to death of losing whatever little shelf space they still have at physical retailers. Thus they inflate the prices of the downloadable editions to appease the physical stores. That's how I have come to see it at least.
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| Posted: Thu, 20th May 2010 04:22 Post subject: |
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| iNatan wrote: | | +1 especially if the price of the boxed is exactly the same as the digital download one. |
they are 90% of the time anyway may aswell have something to show for your money other than 1's and 0s
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| Posted: Thu, 20th May 2010 05:18 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 20th May 2010 05:20 Post subject: |
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| snoop1050 wrote: | | iNatan wrote: | | +1 especially if the price of the boxed is exactly the same as the digital download one. |
they are 90% of the time anyway may aswell have something to show for your money other than 1's and 0s |
Well, go to steam and there's a chance the digital download is even more expensive than the boxed copy (which is insane, originally digital downloads were thought of as a way to keep down costs, cutting the costs of material, printing, packing, shipping etc.)
It's simple though, we've been shafted. Any savings never reached the end customer in this case.
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| Posted: Thu, 20th May 2010 06:33 Post subject: |
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I used to be a box/DVD guy. Thing is, the companies stopped caring about the retail packages (for the most part). They used to be huge boxes stuffed completely full with goodies -- manual(s), maps, trinkets, little booklets, and a lot of honest quality and concern went into the whole thing.
Now I get a tiny box with a DVD, a laughable instruction sheet in place of a real manual, and a ton of advertisements.
Unless you spring for the "collector's edition" -- which is usually half of what old-school games had anyway, if that. Oh gee, my box is shiny and made of cheap metal. Collector's editions are jokes in just about every case. Not all, though. Some are actually nice.
So screw it. Steam is my god now.
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| Posted: Mon, 24th May 2010 18:24 Post subject: |
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i like more the box, but since here you can only get some games in a box, plus their price is sometimes ridicully higher than steam, usually steam is the way. There are offers in both sides but usally the boxed ones are crap
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| Posted: Mon, 24th May 2010 20:11 Post subject: |
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I think Impulse and Steam Deals play a large part in it. 90% of my purchases were steam and impulse sale items =]
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