[Wii] Which modchip to buy?
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rumbo_x




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Oct 2007 19:54    Post subject: [Wii] Which modchip to buy?
Hello all,

I would like to consult you guys/girls on which modchip to buy for my Wii console. Basically I want it to be able to boot every Wii / Gamecube backup. I am not used to soldering but am willing to give it a shot if the chip installation is not very difficult (anyone any experience with). If there are excellent non-solder solutions out there, I am even more interested in them..

Pro's and cons of some modchip solutions are always welcome, and I would also like to know if future games (f.i. mario galaxy) will be able to run on a chipped Wii

Thank you,

Rumbo
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deelix
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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Oct 2007 20:13    Post subject:
Seems like they are very similar, but most people prefer Wiid
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todd72173




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Oct 2007 20:46    Post subject:
WiiKey here. That was about 6 months ago.
Reports are Wii's out now are near impossible to solder.
Good luck finding an old one..Wouldnt even recommend a newbie soldering the old ones either..


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rumbo_x




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PostPosted: Wed, 3rd Oct 2007 23:08    Post subject:
I bought a Wii the day it came out here (same time Zelda got out), so I'm still good regarding that.... anyone have any experience soldering it themselves? Is it as hard as people say here? I am fairly good with electronics (made my own MAME cabinet), just never soldered before, but I don't see the really big issue
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hiatus_gsw
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2007 01:22    Post subject:
well, I had never soldered before either and messed up real bad. so wouldnt recommend doing it if u havent done it before, especially since the contacts are so small.
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AwE




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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2007 01:51    Post subject:
I soldered one 2 weeks ago...
wasn`t to hard - if you soldered before... the solder points are really small - not as small as ps2, but a LOT smaller than xbox.

well - should be fine if you know what to do.

Open the wii (shouldn`t be a problem; you need a triwing screwdriver... look for tutorials)
You`ll need a SMALL soldering tip - you could buy a soldering needle. they are cheap and fine for the job.
even better if you get a good iron where you can change the tips - get a small tip for smd soldering.
get some small wires to solder - don`t "quicksolder" ! I`d get myself a chip with wiifree on it or similar - cheap and easy to solder.
an old ide cable is fine; remove the insulation just half a millimetre and tin it with some soldering tin. just a small amount. a good idea is to use some flux/soldering honey - the thick one.
apply a SMALL bit of flux (with a needle) on the pad you want to solder onto. put the tinned end of the wire on the pad. put the iron on it; just a second or two!!! Thats it.
I put some solder on the tip before. but thats not really needed... made it easier - and cause of the flux it flowed nicely...

It`s really easy.

That`s it - you can find good tutorials and photos here:

http://psx-scene.com/forums/

helped me at least...

good luck. and if you see you are going to brick it while installing - stop immediately and send it someone who has some experience.
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Nettwerk




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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2007 03:19    Post subject:
My wiinja install is still kickin. Had alot of soldering practice during the early xbox1 days.
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azzman




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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2007 03:22    Post subject:
you better check your serial to see which chipset you have. The D2B with legs missing is only for people that know what they are doing. Also the D2C are out also, which can not be modded at all

http://nintendo-scene.com/wiitracker/search.php
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AwE




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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2007 11:12    Post subject:
azzman wrote:
you better check your serial to see which chipset you have. The D2B with legs missing is only for people that know what they are doing. Also the D2C are out also, which can not be modded at all

http://nintendo-scene.com/wiitracker/search.php



rumbo_x wrote:
I bought a Wii the day it came out here



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suicid4l




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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2007 11:13    Post subject:
is another thread about this recently..

as Azzman says there is a high chance a new wii will either have it's legs cut or use the D2C chip. If it's D2C it's currently unmoddable (I believe, haven't checked the scene in over a month).

If you're lucky and it's possible then Wiikey is the most popular for sure, although I'm not a fan of it cos they messed ppl around with a promised update for so long. Have a Wiid installed and it's not had any problems whatsoever, however if I had the choice I'd go for a Wiinja Deluxe Smile

gbatemp.net and maxconsole.net have good Wii forums, however the mods, especially on Maxconsole are a bit dodgy/biased (i.e. they'll try to promote whatever chip their sponsors want to sell and go around locking/removing threads relating to other chips like Wiid)

If you're not confident with a soldering iron DO NOT try and chip it yourself. There is a good chance you'll remove one of the 'pads' from the pcb (talking from experience here). It's all a lot smaller than in looks in the pics..

[edit] just read AWE's post above where he has rightly pointed out that an older Wii should be good to go. I bought mine in March and I don't believe D2C and cut legs were around then. Just be very very careful if you chip it yourself. Better off finding someone to do it for you imo..

All copied games work for your region, e.g. PAL games in a PAL console. However many import titles do not work, bout a 50/50 split. I assume it will stay this way so you shouldn't have any problems with Super Mario Galaxy. Just always keep your Wii updated before trying a game from a different region. In fact you're best off reading feedback on any import release to check for updates and use BrickBlocker to remove them as necessary..
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upstart_69




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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2007 12:26    Post subject:
I say what's the point? Ruining a hard-to-come-by and (relatively) expensive console for playing a handful of burnt games? I say give it a year or so, when you can pick up used wii's for half the price and there is a huge selection of games. Right now there is about enough worthy games to count on 2 hands and who can't afford that? Anyways the games coming out this winter for it(Galaxies, SSBB, BWII, Zack and Wiki) are all worth the cash and modding the thing is IMHO not worth the chance of frying your console/killing your hopes of ever going online(a free service even I will be taking advantage of). Anyways I am sure there will be a software based mod at some point with killer features so hold out for that. Or not. Just doesn't make sense to me.


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suicid4l




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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2007 14:04    Post subject:
well let's say there are 5 games worth buying, that would cost about £150 when you can get your Wii chipped including postage both ways for less than £60. So there defo is a point to doing it...
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upstart_69




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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2007 14:35    Post subject:
Sure, if the guy knows how to solder. But the fact that he doesn't means that theres maybe a 50/50 chance(I wouldn't even touch the Original xbox mobo with a soldering iron, my brother did it) of doing the deed without frying the thing. So thats balancing out 150 pounds / how much another wii costs. Of course there is professional modding sites, but that costs an arm and a leg, usually.

I am lucky in that I have a friend at work who will do the actual modding himself for a small fee, but I still don't believe it is worth ruining the console with some future update. Not without the ability to run homebrew. So I'll wait for (hopefully) a sw mod to come along sometime in the future.


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suicid4l




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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Oct 2007 15:53    Post subject:
upstart_69 wrote:
Sure, if the guy knows how to solder. But the fact that he doesn't means that theres maybe a 50/50 chance(I wouldn't even touch the Original xbox mobo with a soldering iron, my brother did it) of doing the deed without frying the thing. So thats balancing out 150 pounds / how much another wii costs. Of course there is professional modding sites, but that costs an arm and a leg, usually.

I am lucky in that I have a friend at work who will do the actual modding himself for a small fee, but I still don't believe it is worth ruining the console with some future update. Not without the ability to run homebrew. So I'll wait for (hopefully) a sw mod to come along sometime in the future.


Professional modding sites don't normally cost that much, average price in the UK seems to be about 50-60 quid and that includes postage both ways. Guess could be more if you live elsewhere tho..

If a future update comes out which messes up chipped consoles (unlikely) then you can always remove the chip, so unless this happens soon it's worthwhile to chip. If and when this happens it will most likely be a matter of time until it's solved.

Might be more chance of a softmod going wrong than a drive-chip as a game update could well and truly mess you up. What I want is a proper mod-chip which contains multiple bioses which we await a cracked bios for..
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Blowfish




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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Oct 2007 01:46    Post subject:
I soldered my "release date" Wii with Cyclowiz and haven't had a problem.

Never soldered before so i trashed an old HD and practiced on the points attaching random wires for about an hour b4 trying the Wii.

FYI: http://d2ckey.com/ have apparently figured out D2C but the install is NOT for the faint at heart.
30 wire install Crying or Very sad
But as you know, something less stressful will eventually come along.
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dirtymurt




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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Oct 2007 12:21    Post subject:
upstart_69 wrote:
I say what's the point? Ruining a hard-to-come-by and (relatively) expensive console for playing a handful of burnt games? I say give it a year or so, when you can pick up used wii's for half the price and there is a huge selection of games. Right now there is about enough worthy games to count on 2 hands and who can't afford that? Anyways the games coming out this winter for it(Galaxies, SSBB, BWII, Zack and Wiki) are all worth the cash and modding the thing is IMHO not worth the chance of frying your console/killing your hopes of ever going online(a free service even I will be taking advantage of). Anyways I am sure there will be a software based mod at some point with killer features so hold out for that. Or not. Just doesn't make sense to me.


That's the spirit, keep the scene alive why don't ya
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upstart_69




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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Oct 2007 13:36    Post subject:
dirtymurt wrote:
upstart_69 wrote:
I say what's the point? Ruining a hard-to-come-by and (relatively) expensive console for playing a handful of burnt games? I say give it a year or so, when you can pick up used wii's for half the price and there is a huge selection of games. Right now there is about enough worthy games to count on 2 hands and who can't afford that? Anyways the games coming out this winter for it(Galaxies, SSBB, BWII, Zack and Wiki) are all worth the cash and modding the thing is IMHO not worth the chance of frying your console/killing your hopes of ever going online(a free service even I will be taking advantage of). Anyways I am sure there will be a software based mod at some point with killer features so hold out for that. Or not. Just doesn't make sense to me.


That's the spirit, keep the scene alive why don't ya


Nice try at sarcasm there mate, but otherwise your point is completely moot. What scene? The scene of burning a copy of a dvd and spreading it around the internet so nobody has to pay? Or do you mean the scene based purely on self-serving financial gain where ppl make money off of the chips? Wow, what a glorious scene, in any case.

Anyways I will support the scene LIKE I SAID...when there is homebrew and great new uses of the console besides just playing ripped off games. Until then the 'scene' can go fuck its collective self.


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suicid4l




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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Oct 2007 15:51    Post subject:
upstart_69 wrote:
Anyways I will support the scene LIKE I SAID...when there is homebrew and great new uses of the console besides just playing ripped off games. Until then the 'scene' can go fuck its collective self.


Because there aren't more than just copied games they can go f*ck themselves? that's a messed up point of view for someone on nforce lol

As the Wii is basically an upgraded gamecube all the gamecube homebrew works on it, at worst you'll need a gecko adaptor to read sd cards..

Also there are open source chips for the wii which I believe can do everything the others can. They're constantly updated and you can program them onto pic chips yourself.

I really don't understand why you hate it so much Confused
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