Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader
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r3dshift




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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Jun 2022 23:23    Post subject: Warhammer 40,000: Rogue Trader
Shitty title, but it's the first CRPG in the WH40K universe, made by none other than OwlCat Games (the devs behind Pathfinder: Kingmaker and Pathfinder: WotR).




Genre: RPG
Publisher: Owlcat Games
Developer: Owlcat Games
Release Date: TBA (alpha at the end of this year, beta in 2023)
ESRB Rating: RP
Platforms: PC (Steam, GOG and EGS) and consoles
Pricing: TBA

Website: https://roguetrader.owlcat.games/

Game Description

You will take on the role of a Rogue Trader, a scion of an ancient dynasty of daring privateers, that reign over their own merchant empire and explore the fringes of Imperial space with the blessing of the Emperor Himself. Thanks to their Warrant of Trade - the Rogue Trader is endowed with privileges and power beyond imagination as well as the task of expanding the borders of the Imperium. At their disposal is a gargantuan voidship of immense power and innumerable servants and personnel ready to do the bidding of their lord. Their adventures begin in the vast Koronus Expanse - a treacherous region of unexplored space at the edge of Humanity’s domain.

Exploration will bring the protagonist to mysterious lost and forgotten worlds as well as numerous planets claimed by humanity - from lush Agri-Worlds to steel-clad Forge Worlds, all of them ready to be claimed for your burgeoning merchant empire or plundered for their riches. While traveling between the stars, get ready to come across potential allies and dangerous enemies of the Imperium, Chaos cults and alien Xenos counting among the most treacherous and deadly.

You will make fateful decisions that affect the lives of entire worlds. You will prove your strategic and tactical skills in high-impact turn-based battles against powerful opponents.

No Rogue Trader travels alone: on this dangerous journey into the unknown, you will meet faithful and sophisticated companions. Imagine fighting alongside a mighty power armoured Space Marine, a lethal Aeldari Ranger, or even a courageous Sister of Battle armed with bolter and ardent prayer - these characters and many others will join you.


A few screenshots here:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1w60zYN1SjAsBkh2FDNjU6zQjtiMz5jMs


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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Jun 2022 23:30    Post subject:
This is great news, loved both Pathfinders.
Already went and preordered, lol...maybe I can trust this will be as good as their previous games. Very Happy

Never actually cared about W40K that much, some of the games have been ok and the premise is interesting enough so we will see if this sparks more interest in the franchise for me. Smile


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PostPosted: Wed, 1st Jun 2022 23:33    Post subject:
I really dig the 40K universe, it's my favourite setting. A shame that only a mere handful of good videogames have been made thus far.

Fingers crossed this turns out to be a great game.


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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2022 00:11    Post subject:
I'm not too familiar with the Warhammer universe either but Owlcat are one of the very few companies around that still make genuinely competent cRPGs, so naturally I'm interested. Let's hope they deliver!
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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2022 00:26    Post subject:
+1 to that! I started Wrath of the Righteous yesterday and it's exceptional. Can't wait.
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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2022 00:36    Post subject:
Love anything WH, excited.
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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2022 00:36    Post subject:
Id love to see what an owlcat game without all the bullshit traveling and food mechanics etc is like.
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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2022 01:14    Post subject:
So what are Owlcat going to do now that they can't copy/paste the board game rules verbatim into their cRPG like they did with the Pathfinder games? They're going to have to...*gasp*...actually try to balance something and make a rewarding combat/role-play system.

I genuinely don't think they're up to the task - their production values are wonderful in terms of visuals and writing, their "systems" ability, not so much.


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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2022 01:35    Post subject:
Yeah love/hate Owlcat, the first 3 acts of Wrath of Righteous are probably best cRPG ever played level.. but it derails, and the game balance is massively overtuned for neckbeard min/maxing instead of fun or role playing. Same experience in Kingmaker.
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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2022 03:59    Post subject:
Immunity wrote:
So what are Owlcat going to do now that they can't copy/paste the board game rules verbatim into their cRPG like they did with the Pathfinder games? They're going to have to...*gasp*...actually try to balance something and make a rewarding combat/role-play system.

I genuinely don't think they're up to the task - their production values are wonderful in terms of visuals and writing, their "systems" ability, not so much.


they couldn't even balance their pathfinder games


but for some reason they ended up with the same sort of fans fromsoft gets, so complaints are met with git gud

i want to roleplay, and not have to minmax


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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2022 07:35    Post subject:
It was only the last ~30 minutes of Kingmaker that were messed up for me. It's like the difficulty doubled, out of nowhere, and by the time I realised what I needed to have at that point (in terms of skills, gear & spells), it was too late. I turned the difficulty down a notch and was still able to finish the game.

Min/maxing does suck, and I'll never understand why certain games will spike like that towards the end. I love a challenge, but the way my party suddenly became so useless was just dumb.

To their defense, there is a fuck-tonne going on in the game, more so than almost every other game. Balancing it would be an absolute bitch. I don't think any game of its kind has been balanced to the point that everything feels fair, not for as long as I can remember
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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2022 07:39    Post subject:
I really hope they do not try to do another of those Kingdom type mechanics with this game.
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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2022 07:56    Post subject:
0wen wrote:
I really hope they do not try to do another of those Kingdom type mechanics with this game.


It looks like there’s some trading subsystem planned :/
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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2022 07:59    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
It was only the last ~30 minutes of Kingmaker that were messed up for me. It's like the difficulty doubled, out of nowhere, and by the time I realised what I needed to have at that point (in terms of skills, gear & spells), it was too late. I turned the difficulty down a notch and was still able to finish the game.

Min/maxing does suck, and I'll never understand why certain games will spike like that towards the end. I love a challenge, but the way my party suddenly became so useless was just dumb.

To their defense, there is a fuck-tonne going on in the game, more so than almost every other game. Balancing it would be an absolute bitch. I don't think any game of its kind has been balanced to the point that everything feels fair, not for as long as I can remember


Single-player games don't have to be balanced. Let the min/maxers mult-iclass into gimped 6 class builds etc. give them the HardcoreSuperChallenge difficulty. I found "Core" difficulty great until mid-way into both campaigns where it gets stupid. lower difficulties are too easy as well. Can't win.
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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2022 09:13    Post subject:
Where did you get the store details from?
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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2022 09:52    Post subject:
Interinactive wrote:
It was only the last ~30 minutes of Kingmaker that were messed up for me. It's like the difficulty doubled, out of nowhere, and by the time I realised what I needed to have at that point (in terms of skills, gear & spells), it was too late. I turned the difficulty down a notch and was still able to finish the game.

Min/maxing does suck, and I'll never understand why certain games will spike like that towards the end. I love a challenge, but the way my party suddenly became so useless was just dumb.

To their defense, there is a fuck-tonne going on in the game, more so than almost every other game. Balancing it would be an absolute bitch. I don't think any game of its kind has been balanced to the point that everything feels fair, not for as long as I can remember


Now this is a punch in the gut. I dont even know what half the shit in the game even means so i pick whatever i think MIGHT be good, but never stuff i dont rightly understand. They could probably write a whole book to explain abilities and what they actually do.
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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2022 10:59    Post subject:
Nodrim wrote:
Where did you get the store details from?

https://roguetrader.owlcat.games/preorder/en/faq


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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2022 11:00    Post subject:
Nodrim wrote:
Where did you get the store details from?

they go descraptiors on th website


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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2022 11:01    Post subject:
Stormwolf wrote:
They could probably write a whole book to explain abilities and what they actually do.

Well... there is a core Pathfinder rulebook, you know.


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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2022 15:30    Post subject:
r3dshift wrote:
Stormwolf wrote:
They could probably write a whole book to explain abilities and what they actually do.

Well... there is a core Pathfinder rulebook, you know.


I'm sticking to the tried and true "winging it" until i meet a wall and end up cussing it out for being a terrible game adaptation except for hardcore fans.
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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2022 15:40    Post subject:
i dunno the comic style cutscenes lack "grim dark"


game sounds good though
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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2022 19:29    Post subject:
pho08 wrote:
i dunno the comic style cutscenes lack "grim dark"


game sounds good though

Yeah... it's too bright :/ Too cartonish and too bright.


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lametta




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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2022 20:21    Post subject:
What would be a good 40k game to get into the warhammer verse?
Maybe I should get myself a little bit up 2 speed with warhamemr before this comes out.
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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2022 20:56    Post subject:
lametta --> Depending on the genre you're aiming at - Space Marine for some orkz-choppy action, or Dawn Of War for RTS (and DoW 2 for a bit more tactical approach).
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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2022 21:07    Post subject:
Oh shit: Developer’s Digital Pack owners will have access to the earliest alpha version of the game in 2022.

Seems it's pretty far along, nice!
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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2022 22:21    Post subject:
lametta wrote:
What would be a good 40k game to get into the warhammer verse?
Maybe I should get myself a little bit up 2 speed with warhamemr before this comes out.

I'm told, though, that Rogue Traders are somewhat different from the 40K that is usually depicted.

Apart from the games mentioned above - SM and DoW 1-2 -, there are countelss novels, which give an excellent insight into the world itself.


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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2022 22:26    Post subject:
Countless is almost like an understatement. Horus Heresy alone has 54 books...and it's still going Very Happy And serves as a prequel to the actual 40k, so you have plenty to get into before the game releases
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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Jun 2022 23:27    Post subject:
r3dshift wrote:
there are countelss novels, which give an excellent insight into the world itself.


for lore, novels: https://www.youtube.com/c/ABorderPrince

very good narrator
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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Jun 2022 00:34    Post subject:
vurt wrote:
r3dshift wrote:
there are countelss novels, which give an excellent insight into the world itself.


for lore, novels: https://www.youtube.com/c/ABorderPrince

very good narrator

Cheers!

If anyone's looking for WH40K (or any other...) audiobooks, take a look at the ABB (Audiobook Bay).


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