would this be a bad idea? (creating underground website)
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HunterHare




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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Oct 2007 04:50    Post subject: would this be a bad idea? (creating underground website)
first off im going to get into building my own websites, I've been learning about ways to make money with ads and what not. I've done this before with the typical "must click here before entering" set up before people could download 'stuff' from my website Razz im not going to go into what i had to dl but im sure you could figure it out.

now im having some trouble coming up with content, i dont want to go into great detail on my ideas for certain reasons but to sum it up id be telling people how to get 'stuff' from the net, extract it, install it, and make it work like we all here know how to do. i can go into great detail with this if your getting what im talking about.

the only trouble im having is what kind of ads pertain to this and who would sponsor this kind of website?
will I get reported and the government come after me?
do i have to fall back to those porno sponsor affiliates who hardly ever pay up?

anyone with knowledge in this so called field care to chat on vent? lemme know
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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Oct 2007 05:32    Post subject:
it's really not underground anymore now that everyone knows your going to make one.


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D4rkKnight




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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Oct 2007 08:36    Post subject: Re: would this be a bad idea? (creating underground website)
HunterHare wrote:
Would this be a bad idea


The idea being make money off warez?

Yes.
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SycoShaman
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Oct 2007 08:58    Post subject: Re: would this be a bad idea? (creating underground website)
D4rkKnight wrote:
HunterHare wrote:
Would this be a bad idea


The idea being make money off warez?

Yes.


qft


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pistolshrimp
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Oct 2007 20:18    Post subject:
I know people who do "pay per click ads" on their sites and the get a % of whatever someone bought of another site if that people linked from their page. His wasn't a warez site tho. More like a tell us your secrets site. Dating sites pay per click did well too for him. I don't remember him complaining about not getting paid tho.


Best money he could of made was a web site where he bad mouthed a used car dealer. The dealership totally screwed him over. He had it so his web site comes up first, ahead of the offical companies website. Their head office from sweden has been in contact with him and offered to buy it from him for $8,000. He documented everything that the used car lot did, including pictures. His new car while on transit was in an accident and they denied it. There was broken glass and bondo all over the inside of the car.


BTW
SpykeZ is right. Your site isn't so underground anymore and making money off warez is lame. Money for server cost tho are ok. We might change your name to T.L.
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tainted4ever
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Oct 2007 20:23    Post subject:
Bogus rapidshare premium account generators make nice ad revenue.


Sense Amid Madness, Wit Amidst Folly
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Jenni
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PostPosted: Mon, 29th Oct 2007 20:41    Post subject:
Only arseholes make cash from warez. Fuck off Drink or Die and Oink. No sympathy if you're caught. I hope you spend a long time behind bars.


Anything other than having your own copy is totally wrong in my opinion.

Having 100 people downloading a copy of a game is no problem in my opinion. Having 100 people and having some twat charging £5 for a copy each. Well I hope he's caught.


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HunterHare




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Oct 2007 06:07    Post subject:
im not talking about making money off warez, im talking about making money from ads on a website with warez content, no downloads of any kind, just information.

also ive had a website that hosted games a looong time ago and the only requirement before you could start downloading was 'click here to vote' none of that pay me for someone elses work shit, thats illegal and i wouldnt put myself in that situation. anyway i only made 50bucks and it took 8 months to receive my check (thats what i get for being affiliated with porno)
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SycoShaman
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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Oct 2007 18:10    Post subject:
Jenni wrote:
Only arseholes make cash from warez. Fuck off Drink or Die and Oink. No sympathy if you're caught. I hope you spend a long time behind bars.


Anything other than having your own copy is totally wrong in my opinion.

Having 100 people downloading a copy of a game is no problem in my opinion. Having 100 people and having some twat charging £5 for a copy each. Well I hope he's caught.


my sentiments exactly


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KaiKo




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Oct 2007 18:50    Post subject:
Jenni wrote:
Only arseholes make cash from warez. Fuck off Drink or Die and Oink. No sympathy if you're caught. I hope you spend a long time behind bars.


Anything other than having your own copy is totally wrong in my opinion.

Having 100 people downloading a copy of a game is no problem in my opinion. Having 100 people and having some twat charging £5 for a copy each. Well I hope he's caught.


Oink was a 180000 strong community with an average of over 1mil hits per day. Oink ran i believe in the end 3 or 4 top of the range servers running at max capacity. Now that costs ALOT of money, OiNK asked for donations. notice "asked" not demanded. All they were doing was covering their enormous server costs. And notice OiNK himself was not found to be living lavishly otherwise he would have probably been charged there an then.

Let me re-iterate, OiNK did not make money from warez, they ran their servers on charitable donations.


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pistolshrimp
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PostPosted: Wed, 31st Oct 2007 01:49    Post subject:
Oink ran the servers and got donations from them. Kinda like t.l. than?
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KaiKo




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PostPosted: Wed, 31st Oct 2007 11:48    Post subject:
pistolshrimp wrote:
Oink ran the servers and got donations from them. Kinda like t.l. than?


not exactly, Oink ran the servers with donations. i assume TL means TLeech, never had much dealings there so i wouldnt know. But let me just say, OiNK was quite the little community, and people were willing to donate to help keep the site alive, not because it gave them more to download. Not like these other sites where you can Donate for Extra giggage on your ratio.


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