Take a break. Go do something that lifts your spirits. I don’t know, hiking for a week or two would be my go to if I didn’t have the kids to look after.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
GET OFF THE INTERNET, go do simple men stuff for a bit, remember life outside the constant bombardment of bad news far away you can do absolutely nothing about.
GET OFF THE INTERNET, go do simple men stuff for a bit, remember life outside the constant bombardment of bad news far away you can do absolutely nothing about.
Amen.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
Once you're back think of curating all your feeds and identifying things that do nothing but lower your morale.
Fearmongering, ragebait etc. Content creators on any social media are not your friends, they're in many ways your enemies. They will do anything for those ad views at your psychological cost. And they'd rather have you constantly in a negative headspace so you're more receptive to consuming their bullshit.
We have to be conscious of what we consume online and their effects, men. We have grown up in a totally different internet, where every niche and interest was sectioned off in its own site that you had to intentionally go to. The people were real and the bots were piss easy to spot copy & paste machines.
This is no longer the case. Anything and everything is amassed in the top few sites everyone's on, and algorithms exploit any psychological vulnerabilities you may have to have you stay on forever in the same spiral. Be aware of this and build your active defenses, men.
Best defense is to get rid of SM altogether. Like me, I need to get rid of reddit.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
Once you're back think of curating all your feeds and identifying things that do nothing but lower your morale.
Fearmongering, ragebait etc. Content creators on any social media are not your friends, they're in many ways your enemies. They will do anything for those ad views at your psychological cost. And they'd rather have you constantly in a negative headspace so you're more receptive to consuming their bullshit.
We have to be conscious of what we consume online and their effects, men. We have grown up in a totally different internet, where every niche and interest was sectioned off in its own site that you had to intentionally go to. The people were real and the bots were piss easy to spot copy & paste machines.
This is no longer the case. Anything and everything is amassed in the top few sites everyone's on, and algorithms exploit any psychological vulnerabilities you may have to have you stay on forever in the same spiral. Be aware of this and build your active defenses, men.
This is really good advice.
Also, stop multitasking. When you are watching TV/a movie, you watch TV. No need for your cellphone. When you are meeting with friends, you are meeting with your friends. No need to keep checking your smartphone, DMs or whatever. You can do that later.
Basically concentrate on the most important thing at hand. Multitasking tires your brain out and also none of the things you do simultaniously are actually rewarding or fulfilling to your brain.
“The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.”
- Albert Camus
~1h weight-lifting every other day, on days you don't weight-lift: go for a walk 40 mins to 1h or more. 1h, it's not much and does wonders for testosterone etc. i'm 53, no real change in e.g horniness from when i was a teen, so yes, still very high testo = improves mood.
also take your vitamin D and K2 and zink, and protein and creatine, every day. Creatine is good for the brain as well.
i dealt with depression for many, many years, haven't been depressed in i don't know how long, years. You got to take care of yourself, can't expect to feel good otherwise, there are no shortcuts.
Already got the walking part down, but need to start the weight lifting part too.
Bought a 12kg kettle bell last year and did some stuff but kinda quit after the last summer.
boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote:
i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then
Great! i work out at home, have a small home gym, makes it easier to not skip those days because i have it in my own home.
People are different though, for some it might be better to go to a gym, good for social interactions too. I am not very social though. For a while i went there with a friend, who's hyper social. i am now friends with a (former) bank robber lol
Gym is the only way I can workout. Or actual bike.
Stationary bike? Too easy to go "Fuck this" and get off. A real bike if I leave and decide I am done, I still have to ride as far back from where I decided I was done.
For the gym I am already there, leaving seems like more hassle than staying if I did nothing. At home too easy to just put it down and walk back into my office.
And social in the gym? Who was time for that? As far as I act its like Im the only one there.
I even have a Suno song I made about how anti-social I am with strangers in public since my friends think it's really odd I am SUPER social with them in public, but strangers can fuck off:
Stormwolf - "Who cares about some racial stuff, certainly not the victims."
- Democracy Dies in Dumbness.
- Watching people my age grow from cynical youth who distrusts and dismisses the older generation, into cynical old people who distrusts and dismisses younger generations.
lol i am same with stationary bike, no thanks, i either walk or take a ride with my actual bike.
our gym was almost always empty, just me and my friend, and then this dude (also very social, like my friend) social interaction then just happens naturally. we also made friends with two african guys (one is dead now, the other deported) and a chinese guy (also got deported). Very glad i got to know these people actually, really hard to make friends when you're my age, got very interesting insights too bad its just the bank robber left though, but he's moved.
Personally, I think I've been walking around with ideas of euthanasia for 2 years.
My mental and physical condition are bad due to decades of alcoholism.
And it is only going downhill from here on.
Wish I could tell you something positive.
Lyrics:
Spoiler:
I caught you knockin' at my cellar door
I love you, baby, can I have some more?
Ooh, ooh, the damage done
I hit the city and I lost my band
I watched the needle take another man
Gone, gone, the damage done
I sing the song because I love the man
I know that some of you don't understand
Milk blood to keep from running out
I've seen the needle and the damage done
A little part of it in everyone
But every junkie's like a settin' sun
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I do 5km walk in the morning and a 6km kayak every afternoon, I've lost 20kg since Christmas. Here's a thing I saw the other day:
Spoiler:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yaw7nvUdUdU
It feels good, but I'm also on heavy meds since February, so I don't know which is helping more
Social media is aids. On reddit I try to block every divisive community I see (Politics, Trump, men vs women, women vs men, imaginary arguments people make up etc) and I've used up all 1,000 blocking slots. That is 1,000 communities I don't see posts from. I still see shit about it every day when browsing /popular.
I do 5km walk in the morning and a 6km kayak every afternoon, I've lost 20kg since Christmas. Here's a thing I saw the other day:
Spoiler:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yaw7nvUdUdU
It feels good, but I'm also on heavy meds since February, so I don't know which is helping more
Social media is aids. On reddit I try to block every divisive community I see (Politics, Trump, men vs women, women vs men, imaginary arguments people make up etc) and I've used up all 1,000 blocking slots. That is 1,000 communities I don't see posts from. I still see shit about it every day when browsing /popular.
I made a step away from reddit when they disabled third-party apps and never looked back. I noticed I was only doomscrolling anyway. I still go to reddit if I google for a specific issue or so, but no more browsing there. It's just a waste of time as well as braincells.
“The only way to deal with an unfree world is to become so absolutely free that your very existence is an act of rebellion.”
- Albert Camus
I still go to reddit if I google for a specific issue or so
That is literally the one and only use case I have for reddit. Adding "reddit" after a google search so I can get directly to the issue at hand.
From what I've seen it's mainly fake copypastas meant to draw engagement by riling people up. This business model is destroying people's mental health, esp those unaware of how evil and manipulative SM has to be in order to make bazillions.
also take your vitamin D and K2 and zink, and protein and creatine, every day. Creatine is good for the brain as well.
i
Serious question: Did you experience hairloss with creatine? I want to start supplementing it but I get mixed answers on this issue. I like to keep my hair (being 43 and still having long hair).
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
also take your vitamin D and K2 and zink, and protein and creatine, every day. Creatine is good for the brain as well.
i
Serious question: Did you experience hairloss with creatine? I want to start supplementing it but I get mixed answers on this issue. I like to keep my hair (being 43 and still having long hair).
Nope. Been taking it for a long while now, every day. A close friend (1 year younger) has probably taken creatine for 15 years or so, both of us still have our hair.
Good to know. Thanks. I’ll give it a go for a few weeks to see what happens.
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
I've been on the fence about creatine as a supplement for compensating for the natural curve of mental sharpness that comes with age.
It looks promising as a nootropic, but also has that: Bordering on woo-woo alarm homeopathy vibe, when looking into it.
I'm assuming some of it is akin to how cannabis CAN have positive effects of various thing. But some people go too far and claiming it can cure damn near everything and fucking up finding consistent user reporting on what it can actually do.
Like i have a friend, well GF of a friend that swears smoking weed cured her eyelid cancer. She never had confirmed was cancer, just concluded was cancer by googling it. And also says weed:
Stimulates appetite if you cannot eat, suppresses appetite if you are trying to lose weight, helps you sleep if you have insomnia, and also helps stay awake if you are low on energy. Not all at once mind you, but over the years claims it does all those.
And hard to find good neutral user reports on creatine because of the same issue.
For your question @couleur
I suspect it's the correlation without causation effect: People started taking it later in life, to combat something that's changed since being 20. It seems most people taking it not for just the workout/body claims, are usually people 'near the hump' of aging, and looking use it for retaining/maintain things they feel are slipping due to it.
So for them usage in in that time range in which if you have the genes to lose hair, yo do. So when they start losing hair, connect it to "I started taking it in my late 30's early 40's. and I started losing hair in my late 30's early 40's. So that's the only thing I changed so that's why.
Stormwolf - "Who cares about some racial stuff, certainly not the victims."
- Democracy Dies in Dumbness.
- Watching people my age grow from cynical youth who distrusts and dismisses the older generation, into cynical old people who distrusts and dismisses younger generations.
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For mood etc you need more creatine than the recommended dosage, up to 10g. And like with many supplements don't expect over-night results. I only really use it for strength, but i've been thinking of upping the dosage for the other benefits.
I've heard some results saying it shouldnt be taken with coffee because it lessens the effect.
Going to buy some TMG and Glycine, that seemed to have a good effect on mood and creativity for me when i took them together. I've tested like every supplement that exists at this point, well not quite, but its easily 100+, rarely do i seem to notice any effects.
Quercetin was great when i had an issue with my knee for 1 year, got rid of the pain in like 1 week, so likely inflammation that other stuff just didn't fix. It never came back after that.
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I can't find any solid evidence its a neutral nootropic (not just a stimulate, and/or has tradeoffs or side effects in areas you don't notice, to get what you desire out of it).
So don't want to experiment on myself to see.
So not after the physical part. I'm more after is it a good supplement for combatting/compensating for neurological slippage as you get older. I don't expect to feel as mentally sharp or quick as I did at 25. But to help battle the: By the time I am 60-70 will I be able to quantify the huge difference in it, that I only suspect I notice at my age now. (Well I do notice it now, but it's just enough to realize its merely different, not a concern yet)
Which I am sure people here have noticed, as I edit a LOT more than I did a decade ago. Thoughts take longer to grew into articulable statements than they use to. it's like the engine power is still fine but the transmission feels off, like it has a slight slip or I might need a new mental clutch one day .
Stormwolf - "Who cares about some racial stuff, certainly not the victims."
- Democracy Dies in Dumbness.
- Watching people my age grow from cynical youth who distrusts and dismisses the older generation, into cynical old people who distrusts and dismisses younger generations.
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too bad its just the bank robber left though, but he's moved.
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