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_SiN_
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http://warongreed.org/
The video pretty much sums up one of the biggest flaws of this world.
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| Posted: Fri, 7th Dec 2007 16:26 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 7th Dec 2007 17:42 Post subject: |
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L0L!!! AMERICA FTW! (NOT)
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| Posted: Fri, 7th Dec 2007 17:55 Post subject: |
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Lol, give it to the poor and half will OD or die of alcohol the next day, the others will buy each a Lamborghini, wreck it and then continue to rot in poverty.
May the money stay in the pockets of those who know what to do with it )) Amen.
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| Posted: Fri, 7th Dec 2007 18:00 Post subject: |
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It just gets worse and worse.
All that money tied up in one person who pays even less % tax than us. That guy is going to be reincarnated as a piece of poo by the sounds of it. Destroyer of communities and jobs, basically families.
Good vid _SiN_
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| Posted: Fri, 7th Dec 2007 18:33 Post subject: |
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| pistolshrimp wrote: | It just gets worse and worse.
All that money tied up in one person who pays even less % tax than us. That guy is going to be reincarnated as a piece of poo by the sounds of it. Destroyer of communities and jobs, basically families.
Good vid _SiN_ |
That is the best quote, good one.
I have no issue's with the level of income that he makes, I have no issue's that he gets
some tax breaks, although the levels really need to be examined.
I have two problems, first we don't know what he does with his money when he is not
spending lavishly on himself, the video never states he doesn't donate to charities, or
anything of the like, for all we know he's built schools for the poor etc.
Secondly, our system encourages this type of thing to happen.
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| Posted: Fri, 7th Dec 2007 22:23 Post subject: |
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Heh, we're all just jealous. If we all had that kind of money, we wouldn't give a flying fuck of what the world thinks about us.
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| Posted: Fri, 7th Dec 2007 23:57 Post subject: |
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| tainted4ever wrote: | | Heh, we're all just jealous. If we all had that kind of money, we wouldn't give a flying fuck of what the world thinks about us. |
Amen. That's what I tried to say.
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Dec 2007 00:20 Post subject: |
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| tainted4ever wrote: | | Heh, we're all just jealous. If we all had that kind of money, we wouldn't give a flying fuck of what the world thinks about us. |
I think its more the way he gets the money.. and how he ends up paying less tax than 99.999% of people...
(btw i dunno how thats possible.... i mean here if you are low income you pay 19% tax.. and if you are highish income u pay like double that at 39%)
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Dec 2007 00:22 Post subject: |
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This thread is anti-semitic.
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Dec 2007 02:03 Post subject: |
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| -=Cartoon=- wrote: | | tainted4ever wrote: | | Heh, we're all just jealous. If we all had that kind of money, we wouldn't give a flying fuck of what the world thinks about us. |
I think its more the way he gets the money.. and how he ends up paying less tax than 99.999% of people...
(btw i dunno how thats possible.... i mean here if you are low income you pay 19% tax.. and if you are highish income u pay like double that at 39%) |
Maybe in NZ. In America, we have special tax laws for the rich. The theory is, if the rich pay less taxes then they get more money with which to expand their business. When their business expands, there are more jobs and everyone is happy.
All that bullshit started under Reagan. It always was bullshit, because people with that kind of money have other methods to dodge taxes. They don't need laws to cover for them.
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Dec 2007 07:12 Post subject: |
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The middle class pay the most tax on their income. The very rich with money to invest get tax breaks. Some are good. Like to get business started in an area or to help develop industry in a region. A lot of companies use this to their advantage and exploit opportunities.
Here is the wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Kravis
Here is his charity work.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Kravis
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Politics
A supporter of Republican politics, he is a supporter and fundraiser for President George W. Bush and John McCain. He was a major contributor to the failed 1992 re-election campaign of President George H. W. Bush. In 1997, Henry Kravis joined with Lewis Eisenberg to establish the Republican Leadership Council.
[edit]Public positions and charity
Kravis funds the Henry Kravis Leadership Institute ([1]) that sponsors the leadership studies programs at his alma mater, Claremont McKenna College, and the "Henry Kravis Internships for Teachers of Color" program. He has also financed the construction of extensive facilities at the Eaglebrook School, Deerfield Academy, and The Loomis Chaffee School.
He is a benefactor and a past chairman of New York's public television station and sits on the board of the Metropolitan Museum of Art. A Trustee of the Mount Sinai Medical Center, Henry and wife Marie-Josée Kravis donated $15 million to establish the "Center for Cardiovascular Health" as well as funding a Professorship. They have also endowed the chair in Human Oncology at Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in New York.
He previously co-chaired with Jerry Speyer the influential Partnership for New York City, founded by David Rockefeller in 1979, and now sits on its board of directors.[2] He created the New York City Investment Fund, a non-profit organization to create jobs and new business in New York City.
He is a Trustee of the Council on Foreign Relations in New York and is a member of the leading business group, the Business Council. He co-chairs the Columbia Business School Board of Overseers and is a vice-chairman of Rockefeller University.
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Dec 2007 11:58 Post subject: |
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| pistolshrimp wrote: | The middle class pay the most tax on their income. The very rich with money to invest get tax breaks. Some are good. Like to get business started in an area or to help develop industry in a region. A lot of companies use this to their advantage and exploit opportunities.
Here is the wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Kravis
Here is his charity work.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Kravis
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Politics
A supporter of Republican politics, he is a supporter and fundraiser for President George W. Bush and John McCain. He was a major contributor to the failed 1992 re-election campaign of President George H. W. Bush. In 1997, Henry Kravis joined with Lewis Eisenberg to establish the Republican Leadership Council.
[edit]Public positions and charity
Kravis funds the Henry Kravis Leadership Institute ([1]) that sponsors the leadership studies programs at his alma mater, Claremont McKenna College, and the "Henry Kravis Internships for Teachers of Color" program. He has also financed the construction of extensive facilities at the Eaglebrook School, Deerfield Academy, and The Loomis Chaffee School.
He is a benefactor and a past chairman of New York's public television station and sits on the board of the Metropolitan Museum of Art. A Trustee of the Mount Sinai Medical Center, Henry and wife Marie-Josée Kravis donated $15 million to establish the "Center for Cardiovascular Health" as well as funding a Professorship. They have also endowed the chair in Human Oncology at Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center in New York.
He previously co-chaired with Jerry Speyer the influential Partnership for New York City, founded by David Rockefeller in 1979, and now sits on its board of directors.[2] He created the New York City Investment Fund, a non-profit organization to create jobs and new business in New York City.
He is a Trustee of the Council on Foreign Relations in New York and is a member of the leading business group, the Business Council. He co-chairs the Columbia Business School Board of Overseers and is a vice-chairman of Rockefeller University.
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Comparatively, the new richest man in the world (not bill gates,) is by far worse than this man, I am certainly not going to excuse anyone's behaviour, but it is just a fact,
The middle class often pay the most on taxes, but it's the poor who have the least oppourtunities, sadly our system is not based around functional economics.
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Dec 2007 17:35 Post subject: |
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| tainted4ever wrote: | | Heh, we're all just jealous. If we all had that kind of money, we wouldn't give a flying fuck of what the world thinks about us. |
No offense, but you dont know me. I mean, how much money does the motherfucker need?
If i made that much money per hour, i would have no problem with giving half of it away, if i knew it was doing something good. I´d love to make alot of money, but fuck i dont need a house for 10 million fucking dollars.
And yes, what also bothers me is the way they make money, the outsourcing and so on.
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Dec 2007 18:46 Post subject: |
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| _SiN_ wrote: | | tainted4ever wrote: | | Heh, we're all just jealous. If we all had that kind of money, we wouldn't give a flying fuck of what the world thinks about us. |
No offense, but you dont know me. I mean, how much money does the motherfucker need?
If i made that much money per hour, i would have no problem with giving half of it away, if i knew it was doing something good. I´d love to make alot of money, but fuck i dont need a house for 10 million fucking dollars.
And yes, what also bothers me is the way they make money, the outsourcing and so on. |
Easier said than done mate. The only way to really find out is give you the 10 mil 
And yes, he's dirty, we hate him, etc etc... but it's a dirty world. If you want that kind of cash you have to do things others would never consider; either that or be extremely lucky (cough cough Youtube cough).
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| Posted: Sat, 8th Dec 2007 19:25 Post subject: |
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Tainted is right. Unless you have access to a bank balance like that you don't know what you would do. I mean I'm reasonably successful. I make a good living. I'm comfortable put it that way.
Now if say I won the Euro lottery and won say £100 million and went public. Then I started getting begging letters, Dear Mrs Stevens. Please can you give me X amount of cash as I can't make ends meet. I would think, I've worked damned hard to have the life I had before the winnings. I studied hard at school and uni and I got a good job, which I've held for years. If I can do it then why the hell can't they. Sure they may have not had the chances I've had in life, but hey that's just the reason to work even harder.
Tainted is 100% correct.
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| Posted: Wed, 12th Dec 2007 00:38 Post subject: |
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For all you idiots who think you speak for the rest of us when you say we'd all behave like him if we had his money: Bull-fucking-shit!!! 
If i had that kind of money, i'd only spend enough of it each month for the essentials like food, rent, internet, bills, all that shit, and use the rest of it to help as many people as possible. Granted, i wouldn't just give money to everyone who came begging, that would be counter productive, and wouldn't accomplish anything other than temporarily relieve their suffering. Instead i'd find some way to end poverty permanently. I'd start some kind of company that makes a product everyone needs, like food or something, and manage it as a worker cooperative, although i'd still have veto power, as well as being in charge of the overall business plan. Things that affect everyone, however, such as wages and layoffs/hiring, would be decided collectively.
Then i'd use a percentage of the profit for improving impoverished communities, thus ensuring i have a permanent and loyal customer base. As my profits and market share kept increasing, i would keep investing more into the community, to ensure that everyone keeps buying from me, and not my competitors. Then, once i have the whole area monopolized, i move on to the next one. Then, as my obviously flawless business plan keeps expanding my business empire, i would diversify into other markets and products, constantly keeping the values of worker management and giving back to the people as the center of my corporate culture. Eventually, as my empire gets more and more successful and starts to threaten the profits of big shot capitalists, they'd doubtlessly start sending their unscrupulous assassins after me. I would then use this as an excuse to create my own private corporate "security force" to protect myself and my beloved employees from my enemies, as well make my more troublesome adversaries go away. Eventually, my business empire would be so vast, hold so much influence, control such an enormous share of the global market that i would be able to install my very own puppets into every government in the world.
My socialist revolution would then be complete. I would control everything. There would be no corner of the earth where the international elite could hide away ther ill gotten money. No more tax havens. No more third world countries with which they could threaten their respective national governments to move all their jobs to unless they did what they wanted. They would just have to get with the program. I would make greed a punishable offence, and make it illegal for anyone to make more than 10 times the ammount that the poorest person in the world makes, giving everyone a personal motive to keep minimum wages as high as possible. Then everyone would live happily ever after in my socialist utopia. And my incredible feat would forever echo through eternity, never to be forgotten.
So next time, speak for your fucking selves! Just because you happen to be able to let the rest of the world suffer with a clean conscience as long as you are taken care of, doesn't mean the rest of us are like that.
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| Posted: Wed, 12th Dec 2007 08:26 Post subject: |
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So next time, speak for your fucking selves! Just because you happen to be able to let the rest of the world suffer with a clean conscience as long as you are taken care of, doesn't mean the rest of us are like that. |
Couldnt have said it better myself.
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| Posted: Wed, 12th Dec 2007 10:37 Post subject: |
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I've read some shit on this forum in my time, Serben has just beaten it all.
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| Posted: Wed, 12th Dec 2007 15:30 Post subject: |
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Haha thats why commies failed. They always will.
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| Posted: Wed, 12th Dec 2007 21:49 Post subject: |
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| gingerninjaaaaaa wrote: | | Jenni wrote: | | I've read some shit on this forum in my time, Serben has just beaten it all. |
Lmao.....it was a good one  |
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Serben
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| Posted: Wed, 12th Dec 2007 22:55 Post subject: |
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| Jenni wrote: | | I've read some shit on this forum in my time, Serben has just beaten it all. |
Sarcasm much?
In case your sarcasm detector is broken, everything between the first and last paragraph was intended as mostly humour. Oh well, some people will never learn. Seriously though, i wouldn't just keep all that money to myself. I would try to start some business and donate as much of the profits as possible to various causes.
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