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X_Dror
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 Posted: Fri, 4th Jan 2008 22:00 Post subject: My computer is pissing me off |
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Lutzifer
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| Posted: Fri, 4th Jan 2008 22:43 Post subject: |
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have you tried the monitor with a different computer? Perhaps either the monitor or the pc has voltage or current instabilities. I had a tv once with some fucked up capacitors that spiked current into the tv-cables and destroyed a sat-receiver and a vhs recorder that way. With a picture like that and if you say that you have to turn it off for a certain amount of time it could also be a cold soldered connection. Dunno how easy it is to error-check your monitor though...
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| Posted: Fri, 4th Jan 2008 22:44 Post subject: |
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Maybe it was that huge greasy thumb print on your heatshield 
"rawwrrrr clean me or me no work!!!"
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X_Dror
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| Posted: Sat, 5th Jan 2008 12:34 Post subject: |
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Could it be that the problem lies not with your monitor or your ram (which is already excluded) but with your video card? It could be overheating or worse, dying.
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CaptainCox
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| Posted: Sat, 5th Jan 2008 12:40 Post subject: |
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Yea, heat is never a good thing. Could also be the PSU that is dying, or simply the fan on the cracard, or even the heat sink. Have you opened the case and checked that all fans are running, including the fan/fans on the PSU?
The fact that you get the BSOD after some time and not instantly could well be that something is over heating.
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Lutzifer
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| Posted: Sat, 5th Jan 2008 15:06 Post subject: |
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Lutzi- I didn't try my monitor on another computer, but I did try another monitor on this computer, and the other monitor worked perfectly. What's a cold soldered connection btw? |
when hardware fails and has to be cooled down to work again, you either have an overheating issue, or the above mentioned problems with soldered connections. The places where stuff is soldered together to form a working curcuit can become bad, either by heat, shock, oxidation / aging or because the initial soldering was done improperly. Often you ll either have to wait for some time for the hardware to work properly or vice versa it will fail after a certain amount of time, because the material will change density because of being heated up. The change in density then leads to the connection to break / stop working (or it will only start working after being heated up).
see here for example http://www.tangible-technology.com/articles/joint_update.html
but as the others said, check your airflow in the case and the fans (chipset, cpu and gfx-card fans) as it could still be everything else |
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X_Dror
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| Posted: Sat, 5th Jan 2008 17:34 Post subject: |
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Thanks Lutzifer for the thorough explanation.
And I guess it's not because of temperatures (which are 30-40 Celsius) and not the video card since I've replaced my audio drivers a few hours ago and since then I haven't encountered even 1 BSOD.
I hope it means that I fixed it and that it won't happen again.
All I got left to fix now is the monitor. Lutzifer, you think I can easily spot that weak soldering (if it really is the problem) if I open up my monitor case? If it really is the problem and it's not that hard to fix, I may be able to fix it myself, no?
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Lutzifer
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Jan 2008 14:50 Post subject: |
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| X_Dror wrote: | Thanks Lutzifer for the thorough explanation.
And I guess it's not because of temperatures (which are 30-40 Celsius) and not the video card since I've replaced my audio drivers a few hours ago and since then I haven't encountered even 1 BSOD.
I hope it means that I fixed it and that it won't happen again.
All I got left to fix now is the monitor. Lutzifer, you think I can easily spot that weak soldering (if it really is the problem) if I open up my monitor case? If it really is the problem and it's not that hard to fix, I may be able to fix it myself, no? |
if it s a crt, i wouldnt do it because of electrical shock and let a professional do it. With a TFT you could try it, but chances are that you ll ruin the monitor also (most TFTs arent easy to open without damaging something, especially the small cables going to the display). And even if you find the bad solder joint, you d need a decent regulated soldering iron, so you dont botch the repair by overheating / burning cables or a curcuit board.
To be sure it s an internal problem of the monitor i d first change all cables (vcd and power) and try it on a different computer, operated from a different power-socket. If you r monitor has vcd and dvi, check if perhaps only one of the two is faulty.
Perhaps you know some electronics nerd who can check the monitor for you inexpensively? That s what i d try first  |
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X_Dror
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| Posted: Sun, 6th Jan 2008 17:53 Post subject: |
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Already tried switching the cables, trying both VGA and DVI, trying it on different computers, trying another monitor on this computer. But they all pointed it's a problem with the monitor (It's an LCD/TFT).
I'll try looking for someone who knows how to handle these things. Meh... I don't want to spend money on another monitor now when I enlist soon anyways :/
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Lutzifer
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| Posted: Mon, 7th Jan 2008 10:21 Post subject: |
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yeah, i can imagine. Had to buy myself a new monitor last year when i also had no money for it... ...if you re enlisting soon, why not buy a laptop?
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