Has Hacking/Cheating Ruined FPS Online?
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CaptainCox
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Feb 2008 16:44    Post subject: Has Hacking/Cheating Ruined FPS Online?
Used to make Hacks for BF/BFV/BF2 like 2 years back. Took to much time and stuff so I stopped. Now days I wont even bother going online as there are always ppl using hacks and stuff. Just ain't no fun now is it, at least if you don't have your own wall hack or aim bot


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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Feb 2008 16:52    Post subject:
I voted for option two. I think it has destroyed the experience for some players in a few games, yeah, but if the developer has brains enough to put in a good anti-cheating system (like Valve, Epic, and some others), then it won't ruin the game.

I try to avoid most of the games that are running with Punkbuster, as that is easily the worst system I have experienced, ever since Rainbow Six 3.

But I think mostly I play very few games online nowadays is because there are few really fun ones, plus I don't have much time anymore.

My current favourite is TF2.


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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Feb 2008 17:39    Post subject:
I voted for option 2 as well. I normally only play at LANS now, seems the best way to assure yourself there is no cheating. Not that people can't cheat at a lan but often times you have spectators over your shoulder.


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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Feb 2008 17:55    Post subject:
i dunno.. i rarely play with cheaters in tf2. i've played with like 1, and he left because he wanted to turn the cheats off Razz
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Feb 2008 17:58    Post subject:
I've never really been bothered by cheaters, I mostly consider them as a "challenge". What really puts me off online playing are whiners, arrogant people and the like, those who really destroy the fun.
Players often tend to think that cheaters are a whole bunch of assholes, and indeed some of them are, but I've came to know quite a few and most of them really aren't that bad.
Sure it would be much better if everyone would play fair, but we'll probably never get rid of cheating as there will always be workarounds, so we might as well get used to it (i know i'm gonna be frowned upon for having said that).
Well I respect those who've decided to fight against it, yet I bet you'd be having much more fun if you didn't care.

Now you may not believe me, but I've never ever cheated online. Instead I've been kicked/banned from countless mohaa servers because I was suspected of cheating, while real cheaters were considered as fair players at the same time. I don't really know how to explain it, but this kinda led me into this "I don't care" mood. And I don't think that's making me feel worse than before.
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Feb 2008 18:01    Post subject:
no
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Feb 2008 18:04    Post subject:
^^ Cheater(s)




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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Feb 2008 18:10    Post subject:
I hate people claiming camping is cheating. If you watch professional CS players, the freaking game is camping......

Getting kicked for that is irritating.
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Feb 2008 18:15    Post subject:
I don't really notice/care about them tbh ...


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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Feb 2008 18:32    Post subject:
When I was hacking BF I was like kicked 1 or 2 times, never banned...well we where once, when PB switched tactics and started to scan the whole .exe. I was lucky cause I had a separate nic card and a RAID controller card (could not be logged for HW banning). So after a week or so we where back in business thanks to a guy called Sparten (one of the gdam best hackers for BF back then!) . And PB was not the sharpest knife in the drawer, at least not back then.




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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Feb 2008 18:43    Post subject:
At least with consoles this isn't an issue.


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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Feb 2008 18:46    Post subject:
Now that's interesting. I guess it could be done, but most guys that are in to this are real PC freaks...at least until now


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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Feb 2008 19:06    Post subject:
i made alot of money stealing accounts and cd keys off cheaters , thats how i got back at them
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Feb 2008 19:09    Post subject:
I'd say its less of a problem in pro gaming. Atleast in the CS scene people don't care what people do on pub servers.
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Feb 2008 19:13    Post subject:
Well i know for a fact that there where some "cheaters" playing BF2 Clans in international tournaments.


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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Feb 2008 19:14    Post subject:
There's cheaters even in Medal of Honor Heroes 1&2 on PSP. Speedhacks mostly.


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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Feb 2008 19:15    Post subject:
skill beats cheats ...

even if it means to use the vote ban button ...
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Feb 2008 19:32    Post subject:
I rarely see cheaters in the online games I play (unless it's free games like America's Army, or worthless games for 12 year olds like the BF games). Usually the people who accuse others of cheating just plain suck themselves.
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Feb 2008 20:02    Post subject:
Voted for 2 although I rarely see anymore. At least not in TF 2 and hopefully this continues because it's a game I have so much fun with.


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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Feb 2008 20:05    Post subject:
captain cox im ashamed of your blatant admission of cheating Razz

I hope you dont cheat with SH4 when on patrol Razz

what would THE forums say huh huh,

tsk tsk slap

hehehe Razz
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Feb 2008 20:08    Post subject:
Na, don't do any of that stuff anymore...REALLY! I even called in sick at work when doing this crap some years ago, that's how obsessive it got Sad. Gave it all up as the coding was way to complex anyway (was getting that way as PB stepped things up a notch) And I don't play SH anymore...but I might when they release the add on Smile (same thing there, the modding was just getting a life of its own)


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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Feb 2008 20:22    Post subject:
I only play UT2004 online, and almost never found cheaters (or at least I didn't notice 'em). Found some on demo servers, but demo servers suck anyway....
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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Feb 2008 21:20    Post subject:
when i played css: no it didnt bother me because vac did such a great job.

then i played crysis and yes. every server had 2 or more cheaters that thoroughly ruined it...


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PostPosted: Tue, 19th Feb 2008 21:43    Post subject:
As an ex top-level counterstrike player, I can tell you hacking totally ruined a brilliant game. The only place worthwhile playing it is on LAN but since all the big events/comps went away or moved to source (godawfulshit game) it's pretty much in its grave.


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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Feb 2008 00:16    Post subject:
AnimalMother wrote:
At least with consoles this isn't an issue.
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Feb 2008 00:42    Post subject:
Dazz99 wrote:
AnimalMother wrote:
At least with consoles this isn't an issue.
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well he is right altho i couldn't care less about live and swearing/screaming 12 yo's
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Feb 2008 01:18    Post subject:
I have played many FPS online, some just for fun some more seriously.

Cant ever say that i feel that any game have been totaly destroyed by cheaters( im sure there are some, just not any i have played). In most games there are programs (like PB) or Admins who will solve the problem.

Atm im mostly playing TF2 and i havent seen one cheater in that game yet.
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Feb 2008 01:37    Post subject:
Mortibus wrote:
Dazz99 wrote:
AnimalMother wrote:
At least with consoles this isn't an issue.
fan boy more


well he is right altho i couldn't care less about live and swearing/screaming 12 yo's


I'm stating a fact thats hardly being a fanboy. You get 12 year old retards playing any online game, regardless of whether it's for the PC or Console.


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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Feb 2008 01:52    Post subject:
I've never seen any 12 year old retards when I've been playing Eve.

Wait a minute I've never seen any players when I've been playing Eve.
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PostPosted: Wed, 20th Feb 2008 01:58    Post subject:
AnimalMother wrote:
Mortibus wrote:
Dazz99 wrote:
fan boy more


well he is right altho i couldn't care less about live and swearing/screaming 12 yo's


I'm stating a fact thats hardly being a fanboy. You get 12 year old retards playing any online game, regardless of whether it's for the PC or Console.

I know, but lets be serious for a moment how many games on the console would you want to play online anyway Crying or Very sad Very Happy

If anything spoils my gaming experience it's those fucktards who populate the Counter-Strike servers. They seriously make me want to shoot up schools. I could care less about the cheaters, but there's just something about the electronic equivalent of anti-social chav's that drains the soul.

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I've never seen any 12 year old retards when I've been playing Eve.

They are too busy playing Counter-Strike.


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