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 Posted: Fri, 29th Oct 2010 02:27 Post subject: The future of PC gaming by Cevat Yerli |
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Oct 2010 02:29 Post subject: |
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jesus christ im getting REALYL sick of these articles. Every 2 days someone releases an article about how PC gaming is going downhill, then someone like blizzard who's making millions off their MMO is saying PC gaming is where it's at, then crysis comes out and says pc sucks, then valve comes back and is all like w00tpc then some console fag site is all wtfpcbbq
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chiv
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Oct 2010 02:38 Post subject: |
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soon as i saw that crytek douches name, i knew it wasnt anything that needed to be read or considered or even fucking acknowledged..
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Oct 2010 02:40 Post subject: |
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Gabe's stool is more solid than these recurring presumptions.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Oct 2010 02:43 Post subject: |
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Exactly, who gives a shit who they think.
State of PC games is same as a year ago, that was same as a year before that, which was same like year before that, and that goes on and on up to Nov 22, 2005, the day X360 was released.
I don't care about their business or how much money they make/lose. They will still pump out console ports after they are finished with milking console sales and their stupid DLC. With multi platform engines it's easy as ever to make cheap console port to make bit more cash off their games.
Last edited by tolanri on Fri, 29th Oct 2010 02:45; edited 2 times in total
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Oct 2010 02:43 Post subject: |
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Cevat the fucking console boy Yerli. Unbeliavable, i bet when Crysis 2 gets released, PC options are CONTROLLER/Keyboard-mouse. Graphics options Gamma/resolution + 30 fps lock.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Oct 2010 03:16 Post subject: |
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so its like this,
"my game aint selling enough so PC gaming is dead"
alright
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tonizito
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Oct 2010 03:29 Post subject: |
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I think it's interesting to hear Warren Spector, Ken Levine, Gabe Newell, John Carmack or even John Romero on their thoughts about the future of PC gaming, because they have more than proved themselves as PC developers.
This whinny fuck? Not so much.
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Oct 2010 03:30 Post subject: |
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More like this: "mimimi developers didn't want to license my engine, so PC Gaming is deaaaadd... mimimi"
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tonizito
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Oct 2010 03:36 Post subject: |
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| Cevat wrote: | | mimimi developers didn't want to license my engine, so PC Gaming is deaaaadd... mimimi |
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Oct 2010 04:23 Post subject: |
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| SpykeZ wrote: | | jesus christ im getting REALYL sick of these articles. Every 2 days someone releases an article about how PC gaming is going downhill, then someone like blizzard who's making millions off their MMO is saying PC gaming is where it's at, then crysis comes out and says pc sucks, then valve comes back and is all like w00tpc then some console fag site is all wtfpcbbq |
Got to agree here...
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Lg 4k 42 inch tv.
Oculus Quest 2. |
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Oct 2010 04:45 Post subject: |
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| tonizito wrote: | I think it's interesting to hear Warren Spector, Ken Levine, Gabe Newell, John Carmack or even John Romero on their thoughts about the future of PC gaming, because they have more than proved themselves as PC developers.
This whinny fuck? Not so much. |
Ya, he's proved himself just fine actually. Just about everything they put out when they were Irrational Games has been fucking GOLD.
System Shock 2, with assistance from Looking Glass.
Deep Cover, with assistance from Looking Glass (unreleased)
The Lost (cancelled after being co-developed with FXLabs Studios)
Freedom Force
Tribes: Vengeance
Freedom Force vs. the Third Reich
SWAT 4
SWAT 4: The Stetchkov Syndicate
BioShock (give or take some opinions, the story line and world were amazing, gameplay a bit meh) |
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Oct 2010 05:20 Post subject: |
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| Breezer_ wrote: | | Cevat the fucking console boy Yerli. Unbeliavable, i bet when Crysis 2 gets released, PC options are CONTROLLER/Keyboard-mouse. Graphics options Gamma/resolution + 30 fps lock. |
And you'll be wrong.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY |
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Oct 2010 05:21 Post subject: |
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| tolanri wrote: | | State of PC games is same as a year ago, that was same as a year before that, which was same like year before that, and that goes on and on up to Nov 22, 2005, the day X360 was released. |
This couldn't be further from the truth.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY |
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Oct 2010 06:03 Post subject: |
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| tonizito wrote: | I think it's interesting to hear Warren Spector, Ken Levine, Gabe Newell, John Carmack or even John Romero on their thoughts about the future of PC gaming, because they have more than proved themselves as PC developers.
This whinny fuck? Not so much. |
Ok.
Warren Spector agrees with Yerli somewhat: http://www.gamepro.com/article/features/164608/warren-spectors-new-game-is-well-its-a-secret/
| Quote: | [PC gaming] clearly it's in trouble. Well...maybe we need to be a little more nuanced than that -- I don't think the Blizzard guys are seeing any problems in the PC market! From the perspective of developers making single-player games, in whatever genre, the PC probably isn't the place anymore. Personally, I feel some regret because I have such a long history with the PC, and I love its open-endedness. In my heart, there's still a little PC in me.
But the reality is, games aren't just an art form, they're a business. If the consoles are where the audience is, then that's where you have to go. It's not good, it's not bad, it just...is. |
Ken Levine's first 3 options for what PC gaming will be in the future do not include AAA/singleplayer games: http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=64679
| Quote: | | What's the future of the PC? Social games? MMOs? Freemium? |
Gabe Newell, this is only few days old, thinks Steam is great because of its social features that were added to TF2, that are like microtransactions: http://www.battlestrats.com/home/_/general-news/valve-first-user-created-content-store-is-a-success-r494
| Quote: | | "At a time when content creators are struggling with changing markets and evolving technologies, the Steam community is sending a clear message with these checks," said Gabe Newell, President of Valve. "Platforms that enable this kind of peer-to-peer exchange of virtual goods and services are going to be enthusiastically received. They create an inherently greater efficiency in connecting creators and consumers." |
John Carmack, one month old interview, thinks that action games should target the consoles first: http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/8_questions_john_carmack
| Quote: | | We expect to be successful in the PC market, but the consoles are still the dominant targets for an action game. |
John Romero was revealed few days ago that has returned to developing PC games, though this time he's developing Facebook games for a company that has a 150 million(!) userbase: http://www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/2010/10/21/john-romero-working-on-facebook-game/1
| Quote: | John Romero, the man who helped conceptualise and create Doom, Quake and Wolfenstein - not to mention Commander Keen and Dangerous Dave - is now apparently working on a new Facebook game.
While it's easy to snort dismissively at Romero's move to social games that nobody cares about, the numbers tell a different story - LOLapps boasts 150 million monthly active users across all its games. It's last major title, Critter Island, has attracted 1.2 million player in just a few months and, according to VentureBeat, is 'social gaming companies that no one has heard about' |
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY |
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Oct 2010 06:16 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | since consumers in the future won't be willing any longer to spend $50 or more for a AAA PC Game |
stopped reading
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Oct 2010 09:49 Post subject: |
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| SpykeZ wrote: | | tonizito wrote: | I think it's interesting to hear Warren Spector, Ken Levine, Gabe Newell, John Carmack or even John Romero on their thoughts about the future of PC gaming, because they have more than proved themselves as PC developers.
This whinny fuck? Not so much. |
Ya, he's proved himself just fine actually. Just about everything they put out when they were Irrational Games has been fucking GOLD.
System Shock 2, with assistance from Looking Glass.
Deep Cover, with assistance from Looking Glass (unreleased)
The Lost (cancelled after being co-developed with FXLabs Studios)
Freedom Force
Tribes: Vengeance
Freedom Force vs. the Third Reich
SWAT 4
SWAT 4: The Stetchkov Syndicate
BioShock (give or take some opinions, the story line and world were amazing, gameplay a bit meh) |
Cevat [o rly?] Yerli has creates System Shock 2, Freedom Force, SWAT, BioShock?  |
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Oct 2010 09:58 Post subject: |
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| iNatan wrote: | | SpykeZ wrote: | | tonizito wrote: | I think it's interesting to hear Warren Spector, Ken Levine, Gabe Newell, John Carmack or even John Romero on their thoughts about the future of PC gaming, because they have more than proved themselves as PC developers.
This whinny fuck? Not so much. |
Ya, he's proved himself just fine actually. Just about everything they put out when they were Irrational Games has been fucking GOLD.
System Shock 2, with assistance from Looking Glass.
Deep Cover, with assistance from Looking Glass (unreleased)
The Lost (cancelled after being co-developed with FXLabs Studios)
Freedom Force
Tribes: Vengeance
Freedom Force vs. the Third Reich
SWAT 4
SWAT 4: The Stetchkov Syndicate
BioShock (give or take some opinions, the story line and world were amazing, gameplay a bit meh) |
Cevat [o rly?] Yerli has creates System Shock 2, Freedom Force, SWAT, BioShock? |
durp read that wrong lol! |
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tonizito
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Oct 2010 10:22 Post subject: |
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| consolitis wrote: | | tonizito wrote: | I think it's interesting to hear Warren Spector, Ken Levine, Gabe Newell, John Carmack or even John Romero on their thoughts about the future of PC gaming, because they have more than proved themselves as PC developers.
This whinny fuck? Not so much. |
Ok.
Warren Spector agrees with Yerli somewhat: http://www.gamepro.com/article/features/164608/warren-spectors-new-game-is-well-its-a-secret/
| Quote: | [PC gaming] clearly it's in trouble. Well...maybe we need to be a little more nuanced than that -- I don't think the Blizzard guys are seeing any problems in the PC market! From the perspective of developers making single-player games, in whatever genre, the PC probably isn't the place anymore. Personally, I feel some regret because I have such a long history with the PC, and I love its open-endedness. In my heart, there's still a little PC in me.
But the reality is, games aren't just an art form, they're a business. If the consoles are where the audience is, then that's where you have to go. It's not good, it's not bad, it just...is. |
Ken Levine's first 3 options for what PC gaming will be in the future do not include AAA/singleplayer games: http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=64679
| Quote: | | What's the future of the PC? Social games? MMOs? Freemium? |
Gabe Newell, this is only few days old, thinks Steam is great because of its social features that were added to TF2, that are like microtransactions: http://www.battlestrats.com/home/_/general-news/valve-first-user-created-content-store-is-a-success-r494
| Quote: | | "At a time when content creators are struggling with changing markets and evolving technologies, the Steam community is sending a clear message with these checks," said Gabe Newell, President of Valve. "Platforms that enable this kind of peer-to-peer exchange of virtual goods and services are going to be enthusiastically received. They create an inherently greater efficiency in connecting creators and consumers." |
John Carmack, one month old interview, thinks that action games should target the consoles first: http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/8_questions_john_carmack
| Quote: | | We expect to be successful in the PC market, but the consoles are still the dominant targets for an action game. |
John Romero was revealed few days ago that has returned to developing PC games, though this time he's developing Facebook games for a company that has a 150 million(!) userbase: http://www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/2010/10/21/john-romero-working-on-facebook-game/1
| Quote: | John Romero, the man who helped conceptualise and create Doom, Quake and Wolfenstein - not to mention Commander Keen and Dangerous Dave - is now apparently working on a new Facebook game.
While it's easy to snort dismissively at Romero's move to social games that nobody cares about, the numbers tell a different story - LOLapps boasts 150 million monthly active users across all its games. It's last major title, Critter Island, has attracted 1.2 million player in just a few months and, according to VentureBeat, is 'social gaming companies that no one has heard about' |
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| SpykeZ wrote: | | durp read that wrong lol! |
I blame tainted nuts. Check your nut source bro.
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Oct 2010 11:18 Post subject: |
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Sorry, my bad. I took SpykeZ' nuts, so he may be suffering from withdrawal 
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Oct 2010 12:08 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Oct 2010 12:52 Post subject: |
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If you can enjoy the game with sub-HD resolutions and other technical shortcomings. I'm used to better things and it takes a lot of adjusting to switch over to the 360.
My 8yo niece won't touch the PS3 but is all over the PC whenever her parents allow. She tells me the games are too boring. I asked her why they're boring and she just said the typical 8yo "they just are", but I followed that up with "are they too simple, too repetitive?" and she goes "yeah". Her favorites on the PC are Sims 3, World of Warcraft and Minecraft. I'm somehow proud of her, LOL.
Obviously console games are selling more, but I'm far from ready to write eulogies for PC gaming.
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Oct 2010 13:15 Post subject: |
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90% of my friends bought xbox 360 and now it's their main gaming platform, 2 are playing WoW and only one is actually playing games on PC.
No to mention that most of those included in 90% are saying that console is uberplatform for playing games ("You should try playing FPS on console it's so much better than on PC" to quote one of them).
And when asked why they prefer playing on it the answer is: "When I return from work I just turn it on, sit comfortably on a couch and just play".
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Oct 2010 13:31 Post subject: |
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Actually I prefer playing on the PC, especially FPS.
But my PC is too old by now, most games don't run good anymore or at least look like crap. So I just get them for the 360, they might not look really great, but at least better on my PC. I just don't have the time anymore to upgrade my PC every year or so.
So yeah, basically I got lazy, but in the end all I want is to play some games after work, and that is easiest with consoles...
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Oct 2010 14:28 Post subject: |
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| recapture wrote: | | i think he's a jew. |
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| Posted: Fri, 29th Oct 2010 14:53 Post subject: |
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| tolanri wrote: | | Breezer_ wrote: | Lets say like Blizzard, they made with some fucking "item" mount ingame for world of warcraft in their store, more than Crytek makes with their games  . Not really but almost. |
Which is unbelievable, hilarious and sad all at the same time. No matter how bad game is, a stupid virtual item should not make more money than a game lot of people worked hard (or not) on for several months/years.
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spending several years on a game like crysis, putting in all that hard work and sweat only for it to turn out to be one of the most generic and bland shooters ever created.. i'd say they deserve the low sales
crytek suck balls, crysis is a terrible game (if you can even call it that, i'd call it a tech demo) and whilst i agree it's rather stupid for an ingame item to sell more than a game I must point out that WoW is played by over 12 million people and barely has any ingame items for sale hence why the first was so insanely popular
blizzard are known for quality, valve are also known for quality & both of them believe in pc gaming. both of them are also extremely successful at pulling in money also despite not branching out to consoles often, explain? no need it's pretty fucking obvious
leave the shitty toned down generic games for the consoles, keep the quality releases like starcraft on the PC
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