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 Posted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2013 21:30 Post subject: John Carmack leaves id Software |
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http://uk.ign.com/articles/2013/11/22/doom-creator-john-carmack-officially-leaves-id-software
| Quote: | | “John Carmack, who has become interested in focusing on things other than game development at id, has resigned from the studio," id's studio director Tim Willits told IGN. "John’s work on id Tech 5 and the technology for the current development work at id is complete, and his departure will not affect any current projects. We are fortunate to have a brilliant group of programmers at id who worked with John and will carry on id’s tradition of making great games with cutting-edge technology. As colleagues of John for many years, we wish him well.” |
Still continuing (presumably even stronger) on Oculus of course.
As a reminder the company's president and former CEO also left in June. http://www.nfohump.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=2231712#2231712
(But Tim Willits remains there).
End of an era.
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| Carmack's twitter wrote: | | I wanted to remain a technical adviser for Id, but it just didn't work out. Probably for the best, as the divided focus was challenging. |
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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Werelds
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| Posted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2013 21:32 Post subject: |
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That era ended quite a while ago.
At least at Oculus he'll be motivated again, because I'm pretty sure that's the reason things haven't exactly been as they used to be.
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| Posted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2013 21:35 Post subject: |
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| Werelds wrote: | | That era ended quite a while ago. |
True, true, I am in agreement.
But he called the shots till recently (even rebooted Doom 4 because it was crap) now he will have nothing to do with any decisions there.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY |
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| Posted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2013 21:38 Post subject: |
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He is the best. End of era indeed.
I see future in oculusvr or googles like that anwyay
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| Posted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2013 21:39 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Well, id Software, I'll always love you... Note to friends down the street: Gearbox Software is hiring! |
https://twitter.com/DuvalMagic/status/403985045800484864
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| Posted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2013 21:40 Post subject: |
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TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2013 21:41 Post subject: |
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Can't say I give a fuck about this whole thing. I wish him the best, but I don't even care to say that about the actual studio, id Software.
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Morphineus
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| Posted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2013 21:41 Post subject: |
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Kinda saw that coming with his Oculus involvement, seems he has found back what he lost there.
Happy for him 
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| Posted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2013 21:43 Post subject: |
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and what about New Doom with oculus rift ?!
3080, ps5, lg oled
Sin317-"im 31 years old and still surprised at how much shit comes out of my ass actually ..."
SteamDRM-"Call of Duty is the symbol of the true perfection in every aspect. Call of Duty games are like Mozart's/Beethoven's symphonies"
deadpoetic-"are you new to the cyberspace?"
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| Posted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2013 21:50 Post subject: |
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Carmack is not a game designer so Doom 4 will not be affected.
The engine presumably must have good Rift support since Carmack used it for his own tests.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2013 22:20 Post subject: |
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tried free rage on steam today, holy fuck what a turd ... id is dead loong time ago and the fact they even dared to bring out a refurbished doom3 was the joke of the century, fuck that company
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| Posted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2013 22:25 Post subject: |
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| PickupArtist wrote: | | tried free rage on steam today, holy fuck what a turd ... id is dead loong time ago and the fact they even dared to bring out a refurbished doom3 was the joke of the century, fuck that company |
Don't know what you're talking about. I really enjoyed rage. Shooting mechanics were solid and it had a great atmosphere, especially the city portion with all the mutants. Just a shame the game was unfinished.
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| Posted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2013 22:42 Post subject: |
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| consolitis wrote: | | Werelds wrote: | | That era ended quite a while ago. |
True, true, I am in agreement.
But he called the shots till recently (even rebooted Doom 4 because it was crap) now he will have nothing to do with any decisions there. |
A very long time ago. Imo id Software didn't release anything above average since what, 1996?
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I thought the captain was supposed to go down with his sinking ship.... Perhaps he has an Italian streak?
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| Posted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2013 22:51 Post subject: |
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| Pixies wrote: | | consolitis wrote: | | Werelds wrote: | | That era ended quite a while ago. |
True, true, I am in agreement.
But he called the shots till recently (even rebooted Doom 4 because it was crap) now he will have nothing to do with any decisions there. |
A very long time ago. Imo id Software didn't release anything above average since what, 1996? |
1999.
Or 2006, if you count Q4 + patches. |
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Isn't this few months old news?
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| Posted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2013 23:00 Post subject: |
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| Werelds wrote: | | Pixies wrote: | | consolitis wrote: |
True, true, I am in agreement.
But he called the shots till recently (even rebooted Doom 4 because it was crap) now he will have nothing to do with any decisions there. |
A very long time ago. Imo id Software didn't release anything above average since what, 1996? |
1999.
Or 2006, if you count Q4 + patches. |
2001. Doom 3 E3 Demo. |
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| Posted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2013 23:12 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | Werelds wrote: | | Pixies wrote: |
A very long time ago. Imo id Software didn't release anything above average since what, 1996? |
1999.
Or 2006, if you count Q4 + patches. |
2001. Doom 3 E3 Demo. |
2002 
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| Posted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2013 23:18 Post subject: |
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2004. Doom 3 wasn't bellow average. (inb4 someone reads this as "Doom 3 was the bestest game of all time!!" when I clearly said no such thing  )
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2013 23:21 Post subject: |
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lets take a look (obviously all imo, so theres no point in getting all butthurt about those opinions)
q1 - great single, great multi, great engine
q2 - avarage single, great multi, great engine
q3 - no single, meh multi, cpma revived it for a while, great engine, last decent game from ID
q4 - avarage single, tragic multi, plastic, financially unsuccesful engine,
qw - disaster on all fronts
d3 - avarage (at best) single, non existent multi, another plastic engine with overblown requirements
rage - avarage single, pathetic engine, wtf were they thinking
rage was released in 2011, i doubt that carmack was significantly involved in game dev at ID since then, after q3 he definitely lost some of his position as a programmer, but his influence on game engines cant be denied. at least he didnt make fool of himself romero style.
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I didn't think rage engine was bad, just some dumb design decisions in terms of usage re. megatextures
Game looked pretty good, and ran blazingly fast.
Rages biggest problem was... Well... Id. They mishandled almost every stage of the games design.
Romero was a fuckin rockstar. Never enjoyed someone's self destruction like I did that dude, he was awesome.
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| Posted: Fri, 22nd Nov 2013 23:45 Post subject: |
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that engine was very good. doom3 engine that is.
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Sin317-"im 31 years old and still surprised at how much shit comes out of my ass actually ..."
SteamDRM-"Call of Duty is the symbol of the true perfection in every aspect. Call of Duty games are like Mozart's/Beethoven's symphonies"
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| Posted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 00:04 Post subject: |
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It was inevitable. Thanks for for everything, John.  We had a lot of fun together but you also disappointed me several times in the last decade 
In all seriousness, I hope he manages to find his old brilliance and creativity again. It sounds like a mission impossible, but never say never. Maybe id was holding him back  (I believe it's not the case, though, it's simply the right time to retire).
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| Posted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 00:32 Post subject: |
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get out
3080, ps5, lg oled
Sin317-"im 31 years old and still surprised at how much shit comes out of my ass actually ..."
SteamDRM-"Call of Duty is the symbol of the true perfection in every aspect. Call of Duty games are like Mozart's/Beethoven's symphonies"
deadpoetic-"are you new to the cyberspace?"
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| Posted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 00:33 Post subject: |
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Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you.... the call of duty generation.
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| Posted: Sat, 23rd Nov 2013 00:35 Post subject: |
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| consolitis wrote: | | 2004. Doom 3 wasn't bellow average. (inb4 someone reads this as "Doom 3 was the bestest game of all time!!" when I clearly said no such thing ) |
Not above it either, which was what I responded to.
And yes, the E3 demo was more interesting than Doom 3 itself. |
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