The worst thing ever.
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NuclearShadow
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Jun 2008 23:10    Post subject: The worst thing ever.
I've been debating with myself if I should post this in the cool links or even bitching section... But as it sort of fails to be cool in any form of way and since it making me more sad than mad I can't see it going there either...

With that being said this is about children being buried alive in the Amazon. Yes you read that correctly ALIVE. The video I'm about to link to shows such a act and I highly advise if your a sensitive person don't watch it. Seriously just don't watch it.



I know some of you may be tempted to defend this action claiming its part of their culture and religious beliefs but lets face it this is crossing the fucking line. We don't let christians who use the bible to excuse themselves for abusing their kids nowadays so why should we let these people bury children alive? Fuck culture and religion when it creates shit like this!

More info about the subject here http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1555339/Girl-survived-tribe's-custom-of-live-baby-burial.html
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Jun 2008 23:19    Post subject:
Sick and twisted but will never change because it is indeed tribal culture. Just the way it is.


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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Jun 2008 23:20    Post subject:
everything changes all the time. I hope this custom does change sooner than later
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Jun 2008 23:40    Post subject:
This is their traditions, why change that? Why change something that to some people is very natural?
If u don't like it, don't watch. How i hate some people that are too ''modernized''.


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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Jun 2008 23:41    Post subject:
xtralong wrote:
This is their traditions, why change that? Why change something that to some people is very natural?
If u don't like it, don't watch. How i hate some people that are too ''modernized''.


well, how about i start a new culture that buries people like you alive? Confused
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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Jun 2008 23:47    Post subject:
In our society (Civilized Man) that's not legal (at least in my country lol), in their ''society'' looks very ''normal'' make this offers to god or something like that because they are ''cursed''.
You can't do shit its their traditions. Even if i don't like (i don't) i have to respect.


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PostPosted: Wed, 25th Jun 2008 23:58    Post subject:
Lutzifer wrote:
xtralong wrote:
This is their traditions, why change that? Why change something that to some people is very natural?
If u don't like it, don't watch. How i hate some people that are too ''modernized''.


well, how about i start a new culture that buries people like you alive? Confused


Exactly!


If one of us saw our neighbor burying their child alive I don't think any of us would just sit idle and watch it happen. I straight out confront people who hit their kids in public and their action can be credited to culture and religion as well. Am I wrong for defending a defenseless child? If I am then I don't want to be right. Every time I do this the parent either gets afraid and asks for forgiveness and goes away or yells at me calls me names and tells me to mind my own business. In both results it always ends with the kid stop being hit.


Also cultures change its natural for them to. New culture trends start and old ones eventually die. Its time for this one to die. Many of their own people don't support it anymore and if you look at the second link many people end up killing themselves after it happens.
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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Jun 2008 00:05    Post subject:
it's very simple actually, if they keep doing that, eventualy there will be no more children to be buried, and that in a generations time, the rest of the tribe will die of old age.


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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Jun 2008 00:06    Post subject:
Is just their tradition / custom or whatever, they not gonna change with just this simple explanation :

- We did it for the thousand's years and we're still alive so that sacrifice i the only thing that keeps as alive (or sth like that)

IMHO : This is sick as fuck.




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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Jun 2008 00:14    Post subject:
Under wrote:
Is just their tradition / custom or whatever, they not gonna change with just this simple explanation :

- We did it for the thousand's years and we're still alive so that sacrifice i the only thing that keeps as alive (or sth like that)

IMHO : This is sick as fuck.


I guarantee you that if I was there they would learn real quick and never do it again. The first time I see it start happening I would beat the piss out of the person trying to bury the kid. I would then dig the hole even bigger and push the fucker into the hole and start burying his ass alive and while fully awake and aware. I wouldn't finish though and I would dig him out and even help him out of what could have easily become his grave. Once he gets a taste of it I guarantee you that he will never try to repeat it on another child again.

Just do that and this practice in their culture will die real fast.
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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Jun 2008 00:21    Post subject:
NuclearShadow wrote:
Under wrote:
Is just their tradition / custom or whatever, they not gonna change with just this simple explanation :

- We did it for the thousand's years and we're still alive so that sacrifice i the only thing that keeps as alive (or sth like that)

IMHO : This is sick as fuck.


I guarantee you that if I was there they would learn real quick and never do it again. The first time I see it start happening I would beat the piss out of the person trying to bury the kid. I would then dig the hole even bigger and push the fucker into the hole and start burying his ass alive and while fully awake and aware. I wouldn't finish though and I would dig him out and even help him out of what could have easily become his grave. Once he gets a taste of it I guarantee you that he will never try to repeat it on another child again.

Just do that and this practice in their culture will die real fast.


I agree on this one but I you simply can't rush into the village kick they guyz ass, and try to bury him. You probably would end up next in the queue to pushing up the daises after that. The whole "Village revenge stuff" served with a pinch of fresh ground on top of it.

It's just one of these thing that are incredibly to do.
Can I imagine persuading that old fucker who tried to bury that kid - that this wrong ?
They've been doing that for generations ... and they don't have a problem with it.

IMHO : Get me rifle and I'll show them how fucking nice is it to be burried ...




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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Jun 2008 00:25    Post subject:
Well the thing is many of them feel quite saddened after the event. Its not like a gladiator game where everyones cheering while its happening.... It really might not be that hard..
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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Jun 2008 00:30    Post subject:
NuclearShadow wrote:
Well the thing is many of them feel quite saddened after the event. Its not like a gladiator game where everyones cheering while its happening.... It really might not be that hard..


Right but we can't except that suddenly they gonna turn back to their "leader"
and say "All your babies belongs to us" ...




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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Jun 2008 00:46    Post subject:
I agree with Shadow on this, this is just complete bullshit,what a stupid ritual.
I would beat the living crap out of that guy,how the hell can the guys who are filming
that not interfere.Wtf is wrong with some people,that kid can hardly defend himself.
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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Jun 2008 01:30    Post subject:
mrhelpfull wrote:
Wtf is wrong with some people,that kid can hardly defend himself.


Man do u think he lives in the XXI Century? This is natural to them, but unnatural to our society. ffs Embarassed


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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Jun 2008 01:36    Post subject:
xtralong wrote:
mrhelpfull wrote:
Wtf is wrong with some people,that kid can hardly defend himself.


Man do u think he lives in the XXI Century? This is natural to them, but unnatural to our society. ffs Embarassed


Even bother to check video first ? Take a look when that kid dig out his sister and ran away with her. I know it's a pure instinct but if it would a just way it is for these people he wouldn't have done it.




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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Jun 2008 01:37    Post subject:
Under wrote:
NuclearShadow wrote:
Well the thing is many of them feel quite saddened after the event. Its not like a gladiator game where everyones cheering while its happening.... It really might not be that hard..


Right but we can't except that suddenly they gonna turn back to their "leader"
and say "All your babies belongs to us" ...




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PostPosted: Thu, 26th Jun 2008 02:07    Post subject:
The line is that of mutual respect. using irrational excuses, like bigotry or fairy tales to justify injustice should not be tolerated. Cultures exist to reflect the nature of a peoples will. No peoples will is unjust. thus any tradition a culture partakes in which contradicts respect for life is just a mistake. We must eat our mistakes to learn our lessons. The sacrifice of innocents in the name of community will always be a mistake. We are capable of sticking together without having to use guilt to bind us. This ritual is no different than the communion of Christianity, the same sacrifice of respect for life in the name of community exists. Lynch mobs ect .. these are the mistakes of cultures, you are not respecting a culture or a person by standing by them while they destroy their self respect.


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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Jun 2008 00:51    Post subject:
ok aside from the cultural stuff, this is actually pretty good thing to do back in the old days when we didnt have doctors and healthcare. killing the disabled and defected means youre keeping the good genes in the tribe thus allowing more chance for survival.
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Jun 2008 01:10    Post subject:
MasterJuba wrote:
ok aside from the cultural stuff, this is actually pretty good thing to do back in the old days when we didnt have doctors and healthcare. killing the disabled and defected means youre keeping the good genes in the tribe thus allowing more chance for survival.


I would have thought in the amazon that environmental pressures manage that quite adequately without this ritualistic bullshit.

Besides, doctors and health care only contribute to the problem of a degenerate gene pool in modern society. If genetic manipulation isn't pursued in the near future the amount of somatic disorders suffered by the general populace will become a massive burden to society in the coming centuries.


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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Jun 2008 01:12    Post subject:
yeh but if some mother keeps taking care of some disabled feeding him and shit then he is just a burden to the tribe taking up resources etc so the head honcho decides to do something about it. its an interesting idea you raise motheranimal i would like to see what happens when we have so many defects and ppl trying to save them with human rights and all that bullshit and it becomes a problem.
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Jun 2008 01:22    Post subject:
MasterJuba wrote:
yeh but if some mother keeps taking care of some disabled feeding him and shit then he is just a burden to the tribe taking up resources etc so the head honcho decides to do something about it. its an interesting idea you raise motheranimal i would like to see what happens when we have so many defects and ppl trying to save them with human rights and all that bullshit and it becomes a problem.


Yeah, I'm all for equality, but think about the amount of people with genetic disorders going on to have children as a direct result of modern health care. Every socially integrated human should have the right to produce progeny. But something needs to be done to compensate for the resultant weakening of the overall genetic stock.

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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Jun 2008 01:24    Post subject:
i think in the future a license will be required to have one child.
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Jun 2008 04:05    Post subject:
MasterJuba wrote:
ok aside from the cultural stuff, this is actually pretty good thing to do back in the old days when we didnt have doctors and healthcare. killing the disabled and defected means youre keeping the good genes in the tribe thus allowing more chance for survival.


Its not just sick children they even do it to. Many are perfectly healthy.
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Jun 2008 04:45    Post subject:
Well..that's one way of fighting over population Neutral


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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Jun 2008 08:35    Post subject:
MasterJuba wrote:
i think in the future a license will be required to have one child.


Kinda like China?
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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Jun 2008 11:34    Post subject:
We simply need to learn how have offspring for the right reasons. AM our race has adapted to many mutations over time, no reason to think it cannot continue to do so & requires tampering. That IMo is human arrogance, the kind of arrogance that seeks to sidestep family & responsible birth. There is a reason having children is such a big deal, & requires so much maturity & responsibility. Ducking adult relationships & responsible reproduction in the name of future health & longevity is just another bid for control via peoples fears of uncertainty, no less destructive than Worshiper cults killing & oppressing in the name of an afterlife.


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PostPosted: Fri, 27th Jun 2008 12:14    Post subject:
Its a sacrifice, just like a war in Iraq. :D
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