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Ronhrin
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Aug 2008 21:00    Post subject: Working Online
I'm currently working in a store, I work 40 hours in 4 days( weekend, monday and thursday) , which gives me 3 days at home, my wife works at a clinic during the weekdays, she has the weekends at home, our first problem is that we can't spend even 1 day together, on top of that our financial life is chaotic, after we paid the house rent, insurance, gas, electricity and all the basics, there isn't money for much more.

I tried to find a job to fit the 3 days that I spend home, I figured that, if I couldn't be at home the same days as her I rather been working, but I couldn't find any job to fit those 3 days.

every once in a while I manage to sell or fix computers, but I can't count on it to pay the bills, sometimes it's some 3 months until my next client needs something.

also I have a daughter and she's kind of entering that age where she needs everything.

to summarize, my financial life is kind of a mess, and I was wondering if there is any kind of thing that I could do to win some money online, some extra €300 - €400 will solve some of my problems.

is there any type of job that one can do online, I've heard about almost everything, but I honestly don't know what areas I can thrust and what areas are just scams and such.

translation, marketing, affiliate, etc

I don't have any money to invest, so it would have to be something I could get paid by my work alone.

if anyone knows about something, I would truly be thankful.
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nouseforaname
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Aug 2008 21:15    Post subject:
I'm sure I tried posting a thread like this before Razz

I think the only thing reasonable posted was by tainted4ever about affiliate marketing ...


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pistolshrimp
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Aug 2008 21:21    Post subject:
I hope you saw the vodka Redbull thread. Lots of people never got paid for the work he did. I think 99% of the jobs out there you are dreaming of are scams.


You don't make money doing paid surveys, poker online is a gamble and not worth it.
I think "working online", or "working at home" are mostly scams. You have to send them money for them to send you info. Most people who work at home started with a 9-5 office job. That job then later gave the option of working at home.

Like [sYn] said make sure you get a contract. You can try places like Craigslist for computer work, easy web page design stuff.

I have a friend how is making about $300-400/month on advertising on his web sites. Pay for click stuff and he gets a percentage if someone buys something. The work on his part is updating his site with new content, checking posts. One of his sites is about other peoples dirty secrets, like affairs, crime, weird sex , basically confessions. If you have some programming skills you could design some some shareware appy. People who have no skillz can pay to unlock it or they can donate.
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Ronhrin
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Aug 2008 21:31    Post subject:
nouseforaname wrote:
I'm sure I tried posting a thread like this before Razz

I think the only thing reasonable posted was by tainted4ever about affiliate marketing ...


but as far as I know, affiliate marketing will never work without investing some considerable amount of money, I know that software companies contract people online to translate software and other companies pay to translate articles and stuff.

also, everything I've read about affiliate marketing is that even when you invest some large quantities of money, you can never count that you will be making money every month.

also I have some knowledge of coding and web-desing, haven't done anything in about 4 years, but I guess that if I started working on it, which is something I enjoy, I would remember what I forgot and learn what I didn't knew, plus I have always the latest version of the best software for coding and webdesign, scene released of course.


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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Aug 2008 21:37    Post subject:
I feel so sorry for you, I work 4 days of 8 hours and I make 1500€ when taxes are removed, if I work 5 days I get 1760€, after all my costs are gone I still have about 800-1000€ left every month:) Maybe change of work, or start learning so you can get a better paid job?


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Ronhrin
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Aug 2008 21:39    Post subject:
pistolshrimp wrote:
I hope you saw the vodka Redbull thread. Lots of people never got paid for the work he did. I think 99% of the jobs out there you are dreaming of are scams.


You don't make money doing paid surveys, poker online is a gamble and not worth it.
I think "working online", or "working at home" are mostly scams. You have to send them money for them to send you info. Most people who work at home started with a 9-5 office job. That job then later gave the option of working at home.

Like [sYn] said make sure you get a contract. You can try places like Craigslist for computer work, easy web page design stuff.

I have a friend how is making about $300-400/month on advertising on his web sites. Pay for click stuff and he gets a percentage if someone buys something. The work on his part is updating his site with new content, checking posts. One of his sites is about other peoples dirty secrets, like affairs, crime, weird sex , basically confessions. If you have some programming skills you could design some some shareware appy. People who have no skillz can pay to unlock it or they can donate.


yes I saw what vodka did, and I'm well aware that 99% of the online jobs are scams. but still 1% has to be real.

either way, I know that most people fall for the scams because they read "win $10.000 with 10 minute work" and they all fall for it, the thing is, I want to work, even if it takes me all the remaining time that I have, I need to do something to turn my financial life.

You will probably say that the internet isn't the place where you can count on resolving your financial problems, and you may or not be right, but the thing is, I've been looking for another job almost a year now, I can't find a second job to fit the free time of my first job and I can't find another job that pays me equal or better than the one I currently have.

so I'm out of alternatives, as far as I know, doing some kind of work online is the only thing I can really do for now.
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Ronhrin
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PostPosted: Fri, 29th Aug 2008 22:39    Post subject:
Pfiemelcheese wrote:
I feel so sorry for you, I work 4 days of 8 hours and I make 1500€ when taxes are removed, if I work 5 days I get 1760€, after all my costs are gone I still have about 800-1000€ left every month:) Maybe change of work, or start learning so you can get a better paid job?


that's what I mean, I work 4 days of 10 hours and I get €580
the thing is, I live in Portugal, overall work is really bad around here, and here it really doesn't matter if you're Einstein, if you don't have a degree, it really doesn't matter, education here is very expensive, and as I said I don't have money to study, I wanted to studied, to have a degree on physics or computer science, but I hadn't the oppurtunity nor the money to finish my studies.

My culture is above average, I'm always reading and studying for myself, I learned Japanese alone, I have a great knowledge of physics and science in general, also I'm very good with math, all things that I've managed by myself, but as I said everything that matters in this burocratic country is your damn degree.

that's why more than 50% of the people with superior education are either lawyers or engineers (those kind of engineers that only sign beneath some other guys work)

and then there's the people who pay their way through university, believe me, I know 2 guys who seem more stupid than Homer Simpson, but somehow managed to finish university with a high medium.

I'm those kind of people who loves to learn and to study.

If I had an oppurtunity I would take it, but I'm well aware that I would never be able to go to study again, my only hope is to, with time, get a better job and be able to save enough money to start my own business, but probably with the amount of revenue that I could hope to win even in a better job, it will take me some 10 to 15 years so start thinking about my own business.
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Aug 2008 10:22    Post subject:
See if theres some trucking companies in need of a driver.
I don't know how it is in Portugal, but here in Norway it pays good.

Right now I drive a small truck and don't really earn so much cash, ~€2100-2500euro/month after tax (~€3200-3800 before tax), but in a year when I'm old enough to drive bigger trucks (and hopefully can buy my own), I'll make anything between €3300-6500euro/month before tax.

All you need is your truck drivers license, and not all that lame school and shit.


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Ronhrin
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Aug 2008 13:45    Post subject:
Stealth88 wrote:
See if theres some trucking companies in need of a driver.
I don't know how it is in Portugal, but here in Norway it pays good.

Right now I drive a small truck and don't really earn so much cash, ~€2100-2500euro/month after tax (~€3200-3800 before tax), but in a year when I'm old enough to drive bigger trucks (and hopefully can buy my own), I'll make anything between €3300-6500euro/month before tax.

All you need is your truck drivers license, and not all that lame school and shit.


I only have car license, truck license is something rather expensive, If i want a truck license I have to spend no less than €1500, I don't know how much you guys pay up there, but here my car license cost €700, and this was 4 years ago.

if tought about it before, and I know truck drivers get very well paid, but I just don't have that much money.
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Aug 2008 16:36    Post subject:
Car license costs €2300, and truck (without trailer) license costs €3800.
For license to pull trailer, you have to cash out ~€2500 extra.

I got my truck drivers license payed by the state (this place everyone with no work goes and cries for money / welfare).


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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Aug 2008 16:56    Post subject:
You can't compare salaries like that since living in Norway is much more expensive than living in Portugal.
The question is how are your salaries compared to the minimum wage?
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Ronhrin
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Aug 2008 19:30    Post subject:
mark322 wrote:
You can't compare salaries like that since living in Norway is much more expensive than living in Portugal.
The question is how are your salaries compared to the minimum wage?


my salary is €580, my wife's salary €600, minimum wage €430, we pay €500 of house rent alone, in food and suplies, never less than €250-€300, and then there's insurance, gas, electricity and so forth, so you can get an idea on how much we stretch our incomes.

also Stelath88, here in Portugal if you want to take a drivers license, even if it is for professional reasons, you have to pay for it, all driving schools are private and the state doesn't help with anything.
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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Aug 2008 19:48    Post subject:
I'ts kind of difficult for me to say this but as some of you might know I'm running a SQA company here in 'stonia. My problem is that out local market is too small for wide range operations. We are currently at 1MEUR turn over margin (don't laugh, we have less people living in EST than most major cities in the world) and expecting to grow approx 24% next year. That means we are quite near to our ceiling target compared to 200%-300% growth of previous years and thus we are looking for opportunities to conquer other markets. If there is some of you who think that they can run a company and can sell SQA services in their country then we might have to sit down together and have a chat Wink


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PostPosted: Sat, 30th Aug 2008 20:21    Post subject:
Eh, if you've got less than 200 then affiliate marketing is not for you. You need at least $1k-2k to work with and experiment before you find an ad that's working out for you. Then you gotta pour stupendous amounts of money into that ad... like you said, it's very expensive. However the payoff is beyond huge. 200-300% returns minimum, and fairly little tax here in the US (~15%). Plus you can declare things you buy such as laptops as business expenses, and then save money there as well...


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PostPosted: Sun, 31st Aug 2008 03:45    Post subject:
drive around as an 'interim'

A friend of mine delivers goods (such as papers, etc) to several small companies. He works 1 day a week (saturdays) because he is still studying. Easy job: you fill your van with goods and drive around and deliver everywhere and come back again and get 60€ or 70€/day depending on the length of your tour.

There are plenty of shitty temporary jobs that pay good for what it is Wink
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PostPosted: Sun, 31st Aug 2008 09:33    Post subject:
Stealth88 wrote:

I got my truck drivers license payed by the state (this place everyone with no work goes and cries for money / welfare).
lol, how did you manage that? Sure it isn't sponsored by your work place? :\
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PostPosted: Sun, 31st Aug 2008 11:48    Post subject:
mark322 wrote:
You can't compare salaries like that since living in Norway is much more expensive than living in Portugal.
The question is how are your salaries compared to the minimum wage?

The salary I got now is above avarge.


And deelix,
NAV ftw Wink


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PostPosted: Sun, 31st Aug 2008 11:55    Post subject:
Stealth88 wrote:
mark322 wrote:
You can't compare salaries like that since living in Norway is much more expensive than living in Portugal.
The question is how are your salaries compared to the minimum wage?

The salary I got now is above avarge.


And deelix,
NAV ftw Wink
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Kristian




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PostPosted: Sun, 31st Aug 2008 12:59    Post subject:
Say you want "omskolering", and want to be a truckdriver.
They'll pay for kl. C drivers license, and you'll get a job the same day you got your "oppkjøring" Wink


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PostPosted: Sun, 31st Aug 2008 13:11    Post subject:
nice.. there you see, Norway is not a bad country Wink
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