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 Posted: Sun, 20th Jul 2008 01:29 Post subject: The End? |
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Why is there no debate about the surreptitious development of the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement (ACTA) at nfoHump, nforce, well anywhere actually ?
This so called trade agreement was tabled at the G8 summit week before last yet you won't find a press release on that subject. <A HREF="http://wikileaks.cx/wiki/ACTA_trade_agreement_negotiation_lacks_transparency">Wikileaks</A> has some details:
"<BLOCKQUOTE>The agreement is being structured much like the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA) except it will create rules and regulations regarding private copying and copyright laws.
Federal trade agreements do not require parliamentary approval.
The deal would create a international regulator that could turn border guards and other public security personnel into copyright police. The security officials would be charged with checking laptops, iPods and even cellular phones for content that "infringes" on copyright laws, such as ripped CDs and movies.
The guards would also be responsible for determining what is infringing content and what is not.
The agreement proposes any content that may have been copied from a DVD or digital video recorder would be open for scrutiny by officials -- even if the content was copied legally.
"If Hollywood could order intellectual property laws for Christmas what would they look like? This is pretty close," said David Fewer, staff counsel at the University of Ottawa's Canadian Internet Policy and Public Interest Clinic. "The process on ACTA so far has been cloak and dagger. This certainly raises concerns."
The leaked ACTA document states officials should be given the "authority to take action against infringers (i.e., authority to act without complaint by rights holders)."
Anyone found with infringing content in their possession would be open to a fine.
They may also have their device confiscated or destroyed, according to the four-page document.
The trade agreement includes "civil enforcement" measures which give security personnel the "authority to order ex parte searches" (without a lawyer present) "and other preliminary measures". </BLOCKQUOTE>
Oh nearly forgot in addition it is unlikely that even nfoHump would survive it's anti- Pirate Bay sanctions:
"On top of these enforcement efforts, ACTA also proposes imposing new sanctions on Internet service providers. It would force them to hand over personal information pertaining to "claimed infringement" or "alleged infringers" -- users who may be transmitting or sharing copyrighted content over the Internet. " According to the July New Scientist where I first found out about this trump by the big publishers everyone will go to jail. They say the agreement will force ISP's to block file sharing programs.
Worst of all is the fact that allowing governments to have this amount of power over the Internet means that sites such as Wikileaks which are essential to ensure that humans do find out exactly what decisions are being planned to further dis empower them, will also be closed down on the whim of some petty official. Not just locally shut down, world-wide cessations will flow from any local decision.
Once the agreement has been 'nutted out' out by the G-8 and a couple of other smaller but also 'westernised' nations (eg NZ, Australia) there can be no modifications. Every country which wants to belong to the World trade Organization will have to adopt this 'agreement' holus bolus, no amendments allowed. That will mean everyone.
If you care about this let the pols in your country know you are on to them as this tyranny is being imposed on us in great secrecy.
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| Posted: Sun, 20th Jul 2008 03:01 Post subject: |
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News section dude like 2 months ago
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nouseforaname
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| Posted: Sun, 20th Jul 2008 06:26 Post subject: |
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who the fuck are you and why did you post this long ass shit that nobody is going to read?
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Sun, 20th Jul 2008 09:04 Post subject: |
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well, i read it 
Either which way, I dont see how this idea is going to work. Like fuck, I can record pay per view movies and hbo/tmn movies onto my dvr etc. If I own a cd or movie or whatever, I should be allowed to make a back up of it. As long as im not distributing back up copies, it shouldnt be a problem.
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| Posted: Sun, 20th Jul 2008 10:38 Post subject: |
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It won't work, it would take to much time to scan a persons ipod, laptop and other devices. The guards would get lazy and just move you through unless your transporting drugs or something.
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| Posted: Sun, 20th Jul 2008 22:46 Post subject: |
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Look abuse me all you want. I don't care I'm not here to have pointless arguments with egoists, but the simple fact is that if you go to the sites where this is being discussed and read what has been mooted you will recognise that the DMCA has nothing on this.
The ipod flash drive issue is nothing that is just what has been emphasised a diversion really, by a 'working group' who have been empowered by their governments, after pressure from lobbyists to try and get control of the net.
If this agreement gets up which it will as long as every body sits on their ass saying 'it will never happen' the net will become more regulated than the road out the front of your house. Any ISP which hosts a web site containing links to unauthorised copyright material will be able to be prosecuted, without prior warning or 'takedown notices'. This may include search engines although I'm sure Google and co have their own lobbyists at work contesting that right now.
This is a trade off between governments and publishers of copyright material. Publishers get unprecedented powers and will be cited as the primary reason for this but governments or rather established political organisations, also get a big payout. All negotiated without any input from people.
For governments the issue isn't warez it is the ability to close down material they see as 'embarassing - Much of' the stuff that news based websites, wiki-leaks and a few of the better blogs release as proof of politicians inherent dishonesty is largely copyrighted too. All of that can now be shut down on request from the copyright holder .
If this agreement gets up that won't just be the government where the ISP or web server is based, this is a transnational agreement which means that some document published on the other side of the world can be ordered off the web server of any nation that is a signatory. Being a signatory will be an essential requirement of belonging to any trade agreement registered under the WTO. NAFTA is only one example of the dozens of these multi-lateral agreements which dominate world trade.
Shout at me as much as you like, because in all the years I have belonged to this forum I have posted very little, it won't change the fact that a major change to the way the net operates is being developed in great secrecy by a mob who usually get what they want.
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