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GeordieRacer




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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Aug 2008 10:57    Post subject: Trolling
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/03/magazine/03trolls-t.html?_r=3&scp=2&sq=trolling&st=cse&oref=slogin&oref=slogin&oref=slogin

Quite an interesting piece by the new york times. Everyone knows about trolls. I was quite sad to read about the kid on the first page of that article. It's one thing trash talking on a website, it's an entirely differen thing causing, what I can only describe is complete heartbreak over their son's death.

Bastards.
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pistolshrimp
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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Aug 2008 11:10    Post subject:
Some people are so emotional dead and selfish inside that it makes them a retard. Just can just imagion what dead lives they have.
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oxyeL




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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Aug 2008 13:10    Post subject:
An interesting piece indeed, thank you Geordie.

Made me think about how dangerous is the global village we live in, where just a few idiots can ruin your whole life in seconds.
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Dazz99




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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Aug 2008 14:38    Post subject:
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Lulz” is how trolls keep score. A corruption of “LOL” or “laugh out loud,” “lulz” means the joy of disrupting another’s emotional equilibrium. “Lulz is watching someone lose their mind at their computer 2,000 miles away while you chat with friends and laugh,” said one ex-troll who, like many people I contacted, refused to disclose his legal identity.
hahha clueless fucks

you're all dumb if you believe any of that article

ps hi jenni


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Cohen




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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Aug 2008 15:37    Post subject:
lol, agree with dazz, half of that article seems the reporter was trolled himself. Laughing

Was interesting to read about Weev though.


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NuclearShadow
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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Aug 2008 18:01    Post subject:
What sick people...
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nouseforaname
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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Aug 2008 06:22    Post subject:
the place they're talking about in the article

http://img.4chan.org/b/imgboard.html

if you'd like they also have a thread about that guy who got beheaded on a bus in Canada ... something about posting 'dont lose your head' on the facebook memorial site..


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Dazz99




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Aug 2008 17:37    Post subject:
some of you are so stupid it's amazing, you honestly feed into what news articles say? wow just wow. If you do then please don't attempt to have kids in the future Smile thanks.


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ChinUp




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Aug 2008 21:14    Post subject:
Dazz99 wrote:
some of you are so stupid it's amazing, you honestly feed into what news articles say? wow just wow. If you do then please don't attempt to have kids in the future Smile thanks.
What is the motive of this post ? Is it to spread enmity & discredit the thread & OP ?

Trolling is the price of anonymity. I personally think its worth the price. The alternative is far far worse.


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Dazz99




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Aug 2008 21:20    Post subject:
all i'm saying is that article is bullshit, take it from somebody who's way above any of that 4chan shit. Posts like

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What sick people...


kinda get to me because it's just somebody reading a news site and instantly believing that's how things work when it's obviously wrong, you guys must love CNN.


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ChinUp




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Aug 2008 22:01    Post subject:
Dazz99 wrote:
all i'm saying is that article is bullshit, take it from somebody who's way above any of that 4chan shit. Posts like

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What sick people...


kinda get to me because it's just somebody reading a news site and instantly believing that's how things work when it's obviously wrong, you guys must love CNN.
Either that or they can see that anyone who posts to deepen peoples misery is sick. Rolling Eyes


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Dazz99




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Aug 2008 22:04    Post subject:
ChinUp wrote:
Dazz99 wrote:
all i'm saying is that article is bullshit, take it from somebody who's way above any of that 4chan shit. Posts like

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What sick people...


kinda get to me because it's just somebody reading a news site and instantly believing that's how things work when it's obviously wrong, you guys must love CNN.
Either that or they can see that anyone who posts to deepen peoples misery is sick. Rolling Eyes
did you even read my post? also it's not "sick" but rather "childish"

oh and what makes this more hilarious is the fact that your avatar happens to be the exact same mask the 4chan faggots use 8D U RAGIN KID ?


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swingman




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Aug 2008 22:25    Post subject:
ChinUp wrote:
Dazz99 wrote:
all i'm saying is that article is bullshit, take it from somebody who's way above any of that 4chan shit. Posts like

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What sick people...


kinda get to me because it's just somebody reading a news site and instantly believing that's how things work when it's obviously wrong, you guys must love CNN.
Either that or they can see that anyone who posts to deepen peoples misery is sick. Rolling Eyes


Don't believe everything you read. Trolls do not get pleasure out of people's misery. They DO enjoy people's indignation at their comments. The more often people quote/reply to their comments, the more they are going to bait those people.

As for people who have experienced a real tragedy it is really naive to be posting that on anonymous forums. Even real-meant sympathy has no meaning so why let the trolls' comments get to you.
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NuclearShadow
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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Aug 2008 23:02    Post subject:
If they don't get pleasure out of others misery why on earth would they start prank calling the dead kid's parents? Not only did they cause the damn pain from the calls they obviously enjoyed causing misery as they kept doing it.

That is a sick act and takes a sick minded person to do such a thing. I wouldn't go to my worst enemy and mock him for his child's death. God damn cowards..
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Dazz99




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Aug 2008 23:06    Post subject:
you're the reason why the do it, congrats.


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NuclearShadow
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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Aug 2008 23:21    Post subject:
Dazz99 wrote:
you're the reason why the do it, congrats.


No, they clearly do it because they have serious mental issues and act out to get attention. If anything I pity them.
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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Aug 2008 23:23    Post subject:
NuclearShadow wrote:
Dazz99 wrote:
you're the reason why the do it, congrats.


No, they clearly do it because they have serious mental issues and act out to get attention. If anything I pity them.
dear oh dear...

somebody is emotional on the internets


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swingman




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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Aug 2008 23:38    Post subject:
I remember being on a forum when Dale Earnhardt crashed and died. Someone posted an ad on ebay claiming to be selling Dale's poop-stained underpants. Needless to say, the ad was taken down promptly but screenshots were invented for a reason and it was like troll-armageddon had broken loose.

Some well-meaning nascar fan had started a 'tribute' thread and it attracted the trolls like a carcass attracts flies. Mods got tired of deleting inappropriate posts which I must admit were quite funny themselves but the funniest comments were by those that were shocked at the trolls. Not only were they making the mods' work more difficult by quoting the trolls' comments repeatedly, it was hilarious to see them getting worked up over it.

The point is, just because you feel bad about some event doesn't mean that the whole world is going to grieve over it. And even those well-intentioned condolences mean nothing at the end of the day. Internet emotion = nothing.

For the record, I wasn't one of the trolls but I did find it (the reactions of both sides) very funny.
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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Aug 2008 23:58    Post subject:
Dazz99 wrote:
NuclearShadow wrote:
Dazz99 wrote:
you're the reason why the do it, congrats.


No, they clearly do it because they have serious mental issues and act out to get attention. If anything I pity them.
dear oh dear...

somebody is emotional on the internets


Emotional? Not at all I've been perfectly calm this whole time. If I can keep calm with bullets flying past my head then a troll like yourself would never ever get to me.

Though it does make me wonder why your kind do this and why not just seek the help that you need? I know your going to deny any mental illness but if your doing acts such as the ones on the link then its obvious that you do and your only hurting yourself in the end.

In fact you clearly fit the bill because when your actions were seen as wrong you quickly jumped to defend it and act victimized.

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kinda get to me because it's just somebody reading a news site and instantly believing that's how things work when it's obviously wrong, you guys must love CNN.


Now why would we ever trust the news over someone who would call someone and threaten them with bodily harm and rape? Simply because something over something your kind disagreed with. Doesn't that sound like your kind just go emotional and raged over the internet and fell into your own traps?

You also say my comment "What sick people" got to you. So its okay for you to be emotional over the internet but not others? Its also alright for you to personally attack people even offline by calling them and harassing them? But if one person speaks against your kind then clearly its just unacceptable to you.

I rest my case Cool
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Dazz99




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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Aug 2008 00:12    Post subject:
you're absolutely clueless on this matter and yes you are just following what that site said when infact most of it was utter bullshit, as i've already stated several times. As somebody who likes to wind people up myself I can pretty much confirm that.

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Emotional? Not at all I've been perfectly calm this whole time. If I can keep calm with bullets flying past my head then a troll like yourself would never ever get to me.
I was kidding though you're far from calm, you seem pretty upset over what somebody says on the internet and well to be honest it doesn't effect you in ANY WAY so just don't let it bother you. What the fuck does it matter if some guy laughs at some dead random or rings up their house because they think it's funny? in the end they're just after a reaction - not from the parents though but from people like yourself who feel so violated by it and end up posting "OMG UR ALL SICK BASTARDS I HOPE U DIE" stupid people basically, lol.



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Now why would we ever trust the news over someone who would call someone and threaten them with bodily harm and rape? Simply because something over something your kind disagreed with. Doesn't that sound like your kind just go emotional and raged over the internet and fell into your own traps?
I meant it's pretty stupid, it's like when somebody gets so fucking upset over somebody mocking an actor who just died or laughing at 9/11 etc, you don't know these people so why the fuck do you get so upset about it? no but whilst you do get upset you're just another person sitting behind a monitor/tv watching it all instead of going out there and doing something about it. I personally find that to be pretty funny and two faced. Oh and no you shouldn't trust news articles, like the one in the OP because most of them are full of false information and made by clueless people with pincers instead of hands.

Oh and with that being said... 4chan is a shit hole, it's not the old site that was home to some semi decent people, it's now full of complete morons who think they're great trolls but really they're just dickheads!


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NuclearShadow
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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Aug 2008 01:11    Post subject:
Dazz99 wrote:
you're absolutely clueless on this matter and yes you are just following what that site said when infact most of it was utter bullshit, as i've already stated several times. As somebody who likes to wind people up myself I can pretty much confirm that



Honestly what are the chances that you would support negative press that is against what you do no matter how truthful it is? Also whats bullshit about it? Are you claiming the things such as calling the parents of the decease child didn't happen?

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I was kidding though you're far from calm, you seem pretty upset over what somebody says on the internet and well to be honest it doesn't effect you in ANY WAY so just don't let it bother you. What the fuck does it matter if some guy laughs at some dead random or rings up their house because they think it's funny? in the end they're just after a reaction - not from the parents though but from people like yourself who feel so violated by it and end up posting "OMG UR ALL SICK BASTARDS I HOPE U DIE" stupid people basically, lol.


I assure you that I am 100% calm. The reason why I care is for two reasons. One being if your neighbors house is on fire and you don't help then it can easily just spread to your home just as well. This of course means how do I know it won't affect me someday? what if my son was abducted and a amber alert went out and you and your clearly mentally ill friends mocked the event? I sure the hell wouldn't be happy and this event surely would not leave me calm. The second reason is I have a general care for other human beings. now I won't lie and say I love everyone on this planet as thats impossible. I hate hearing about a tragedies because I don't believe anyone deserves a single bad thing to happen to them. Even you Dazz or your friends who do the same acts. I care because I am a fellow human being.

Also its clear that they took enjoyment from calling the parents as they continued to call them for so long after all that time went by. Don't blatantly lie.

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I meant it's pretty stupid, it's like when somebody gets so fucking upset over somebody mocking an actor who just died or laughing at 9/11 etc, you don't know these people so why the fuck do you get so upset about it? no but whilst you do get upset you're just another person sitting behind a monitor/tv watching it all instead of going out there and doing something about it. I personally find that to be pretty funny and two faced. Oh and no you shouldn't trust news articles, like the one in the OP because most of them are full of false information and made by clueless people with pincers instead of hands.


And who are you to assume I didn't know a person involved in those events? Or that anyone else didn't? I did in fact know someone who died in 9/11. I also don't understand how I could have done something about a actor who died... I don't think I could have saved George Carlin (who I met) from his heart failure nor could I have predicted such a event would even take place. As for 9/11 it wouldn't have even been possible for me to travel there in time to do anything about it seeing how all the airports were shutdown. But believe me if I could have been there I would have been and I would have saved a good friend from much grief or died trying.

While your bullshit two face argument may work against most it won't work against me. I'm the type who would run into a burning building if I suspected people are in it. While most would sit back and watch (which is understandable) But you Dazz you are the type who would sit back grab a drink and laugh at others misfortune. Which you already admittedly do.

So yes Dazz you are a sick person. But I don't believe its your fault. I believe you and people who do the actions that you do are mentally ill and I don't mean that as a insult. You feel weak and insecure so you do this to make yourself feel strong and dominate over others. You of course make a excuses up on why you do such actions to hide the real reasons. I know you will deny all of this an thats to be expected.
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Dazz99




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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Aug 2008 01:36    Post subject:


im gonna go to bed in a minute, i'll give you a full reply tomorrow after work.


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Cohen




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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Aug 2008 02:33    Post subject:
This thread ended in a nutshell :

Its sick and wrong but you also have to be a retard if you let words over the internet or prank calls get to you evern during time of emotional crisis.. get a fucking grip.. STICKS AND STONES...

The sooner people just ignore them as what they are *words* then we can all get along.


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PostPosted: Mon, 4th Aug 2008 22:07    Post subject:
Good read, I really enjoyed the article. Although, I am super bored.


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