[OTHER] playing downloaded games not as satisfactory...
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chakdeindya
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Aug 2008 18:47    Post subject: [OTHER] playing downloaded games not as satisfactory...
I dont if its just me but for some reason, I dont get the same satisfaction from playing a downloaded game as opposed to playing a store bought game. Case in point I download 360 games but if I decide to buy something I like, like BF:BC or Fifa 08, I go out and get the PS3 version...and the 360 games then go into my cd pile to get scratched and rendered useless. Just last week, I threw away like 30-40 of my old 360 backups from last year, just cause I wasnt playing them. I didnt feel like doing that to the 10-15 ps3 titles that I also dont play!!!! And I sold my modded wii to get an unmodded wii Confused
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Aug 2008 18:59    Post subject:
never occurred to you that those games might just be shit?

I burned soo many games in past year and i never finished even one game..i still have not finished GTA IV..crackdown...or gear of wars that i have legit copy from


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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Aug 2008 19:04    Post subject:
You just feel bad about buying something shitty and play it anyways.


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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Aug 2008 19:26    Post subject:
Wait, you buy the PS3 version of multiplatform titles? You realize most are ported from the 360 and have framerate issues (I'm not a fanboy it's a fucking fact look at GTA4 or Orange Box)

You also bought bad company but on the PS3? No wonder you get bored so fast, the PSN sucks balls.
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Aug 2008 19:56    Post subject:
Clearly multi-platform developers initially struggle to get to grips with developing on Sony's platform and some games have suffered as a result of this - but I think you'll find that for the large part they are, and have gotten better. GTA4 runs marginally faster on the PS3 for example, with fewer pop-up and texture loading issues and certainly no framerate problems, whilst The Orange Box controversy is overblown internet hyperbole from those who haven't even played it. PSN is also a fantastic service offered for free, I've had zero problems using it and there's nothing about it that is inherently bad. I mean, if I paid for it; then sure I might have a list of changes I'd want to make - but I don't.

Regarding the original topic; it's an interesting perspective as ownership does tend to increase a games sense of worth, but I really wish I didn't have to buy chaff like FIFA, so in that sense I don't share your sentiment - hence why I have to rent a lot of stuff!




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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Aug 2008 21:20    Post subject:
Games I invest most of my time in is the ones I've bought

I don't think its a coincedence , Hell I've dl'ed games . Threw them into a pile and saw it cheap one day and said fuck it . Pheonix Wright series probably being the strongest contender as it was on my flashcard , just couldn't get motivated until I bought them

Played fuck out of braid doing the speed runs and collecting stars . If I could dl it I would probably not have devoted half the time and effort , dare I say enjoy the experience less than I did


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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Aug 2008 21:36    Post subject:
I've heard this complaint a lot but I don't buy it. Personally I've never experienced it plus things like what nouse said definitely affect the degree of satisfaction more than most people would like to admit. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Aug 2008 21:54    Post subject:
An easy solution is to just download everything and buy nothing. That way you don't have anything to compare with Wink


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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Aug 2008 22:14    Post subject:
I agree, i have 16 downloaded games and i finished only 1 of them (naruto rise of the ninja which was a very fun game imo). I got pretty far in others (like got to RAAM in gow but didnt bother after he killed me few times), and others i beat the first level and never touched them again (Dead rising- got to the first boss and gave up, dark sector-cleared first two levels and got bored, even stopped playing GTA as soon as it was confirmed it was coming to PC since i know R* will make a proper transfer so xbox version will be inferior). If i bought those games for the full price, im pretty sure I'd finish them. Same thing with PC games, i finished all the games that i bought, COD4, Bioshock, Orange box (except episode 2), and others, but dont finish the games that i download. Im actually bored of most of my games, im itching to play some good old side scrollers. Id buy braid and bionic commando if i wasnt banned from live. And i dont understand why the are fucking pc users by raising the price by 50 %.


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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Aug 2008 22:28    Post subject:
If I paid $60+tax for a game I'd sure as shit finish it too Wink


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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Aug 2008 22:35    Post subject:
I have to agree to the topic creator. Somehow downloaded games down make me that excited like games do that I buy.
I remember buying Max Payne 2 or Far Cry and getting really agitated while driving home and opening the box.
There is surely some difference, but then again there are more average games these days that get promoted very much, so that you might think they have to be good although they aren't. So the excitement is hard to get these days, because you never know what you get.

Also when I buy a game I somehow try to get out of it as possible, i.e. play it several times. There are many games I downloaded that I never finished. And that's not just bad quality games, I never even finished FF12 although I was close to the end.


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PostPosted: Fri, 15th Aug 2008 22:44    Post subject:
nouseforaname wrote:
If I paid $60+tax for a game I'd sure as shit finish it too Wink

On the flipside, downloading games can lower appreciation factors. You're just looking at it from one angle. It's happened to me with games that you have preconceptions about, or which require a substantial amount of time to fully grasp.


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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Aug 2008 00:22    Post subject:
I definitely find this is the case for me, it's the same with anything that requires minimal investment to acquire. Easy come, easy go.

I buy all my 360 games though and certainly don't regret it. While money isn't really an issue, it's still enough of a factor that I pick my games carefully.


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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Aug 2008 04:39    Post subject:
There are some cases where I bought a game and do not like it. Neither do I force myself to play it.

Take Assassins Creed for example. I played it for maybe 2 hours, realised it was shit and changed it for another game.
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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Aug 2008 05:09    Post subject:
Ispep wrote:
Clearly multi-platform developers initially struggle to get to grips with developing on Sony's platform and some games have suffered as a result of this - but I think you'll find that for the large part they are, and have gotten better. GTA4 runs marginally faster on the PS3 for example, with fewer pop-up and texture loading issues and certainly no framerate problems, whilst The Orange Box controversy is overblown internet hyperbole from those who haven't even played it. PSN is also a fantastic service offered for free, I've had zero problems using it and there's nothing about it that is inherently bad. I mean, if I paid for it; then sure I might have a list of changes I'd want to make - but I don't.

Regarding the original topic; it's an interesting perspective as ownership does tend to increase a games sense of worth, but I really wish I didn't have to buy chaff like FIFA, so in that sense I don't share your sentiment - hence why I have to rent a lot of stuff!


Faster, but running at a lower resolution! You sound like a ps3 fanboy in your posts Razz
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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Aug 2008 11:58    Post subject:
SuTuRa wrote:
Ispep wrote:
Clearly multi-platform developers initially struggle to get to grips with developing on Sony's platform and some games have suffered as a result of this - but I think you'll find that for the large part they are, and have gotten better. GTA4 runs marginally faster on the PS3 for example, with fewer pop-up and texture loading issues and certainly no framerate problems, whilst The Orange Box controversy is overblown internet hyperbole from those who haven't even played it. PSN is also a fantastic service offered for free, I've had zero problems using it and there's nothing about it that is inherently bad. I mean, if I paid for it; then sure I might have a list of changes I'd want to make - but I don't.

Regarding the original topic; it's an interesting perspective as ownership does tend to increase a games sense of worth, but I really wish I didn't have to buy chaff like FIFA, so in that sense I don't share your sentiment - hence why I have to rent a lot of stuff!


Faster, but running at a lower resolution! You sound like a ps3 fanboy in your posts Razz


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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Aug 2008 12:34    Post subject:
It's a superficially lower resolution and looks no worse for it. The reason I never brought it up is because I didn't see it as relevant; the original poster said the PS3 version had framerate issues, which it doesn't, it runs marginally faster and has less pop-up. My point was to respond and debunk the typical non-ps3 owners hyperbole, not discuss the ins-and-outs of the game and drag it off topic. I'm not a fanboy of any system, I just happen to own a PS3 and know for a fact he's telling lies. If you want to discuss the finer points then go into their respective threads where it has been beaten to death.


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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Aug 2008 14:14    Post subject:
The PS3 version does look worse:

http://www.videogamer.com/features/article/29-04-2008-389.html

As I said, denial.


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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Aug 2008 14:41    Post subject:
I'm sorry, the only person in denial here is you and your 360 users who are intent on turning this into a 'my dad is better than your dad' debate, something I'm not interested in. I never said the PS3 version of GTA was prettier or running in the same resolution - my post was only intended to rebuke the lies by Naish that it has framerate issues. If you had asked me whether I thought the 360 version looked better I would have agreed but you didn't, you're assuming I'm a fanboy simply because I'm defending a console you likely don't own. Which is rather fanboy-like behaviour, don't you think?

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The PS3 version does look worse:

It's less aliased, more processed, but it doesn't look 'worse' as in bad. Certainly I would prefer the 360 version given a choice, but I've played the whole game on the PS3 and you wouldn't have noticed or cared. The only people that seem to are fanboys.


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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Aug 2008 15:23    Post subject:
All ps3 games have washed textures,i read some where that the problem its the bandwidth.

But again 360 could be flashed and with the ton of crap games it´s the best option
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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Aug 2008 16:40    Post subject:
It's not the textures, it's simply a more processed image. If it were the textures then we'd see less silhouette blur and more texture blur - whereas we see non of the latter, more of the former. This isn't a problem on the PS3 at all;

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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Aug 2008 17:32    Post subject:
..all of those pics are from cinematic/middle sequences tho
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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Aug 2008 17:38    Post subject:
Ispep wrote:

Shit, that looks amazing. Especially the city surroundings!


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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Aug 2008 20:34    Post subject:
I own all systems, am I a fanboi?


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PostPosted: Sat, 16th Aug 2008 20:41    Post subject:
Ispep wrote:
It's not the textures, it's simply a more processed image. If it were the textures then we'd see less silhouette blur and more texture blur - whereas we see non of the latter, more of the former. This isn't a problem on the PS3 at all;









Well it look blured i dont think that look more proceed it look like low textures with filters i played msg4 its very cool, but look blured.

I read somewhere that PS3 have 256 for cpu and 256 for gpu and the 360 have 512 shared.i dont have numbers but i read that the xbox have much more texture bandwidth and better gpu.

Anyway i can live with blured textures but i can´t pay tons of money for games,if someday get hacked i buy one but now its just to much expensive and almost all games you can get in 360 with more quality.

If new xbox´s cant get flashed i think ps3 will sell more.
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