[XBOX360] Claiming RROD to get 360 fixed?
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DeMoN064




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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Jul 2008 11:05    Post subject: [XBOX360] Claiming RROD to get 360 fixed?
I've heard of this been done before but I was wondering if any of you have got away with this :

Basically my mate has an 360 that has a fault that has nothing to do with RROD, since its out of warrenty for these kind of issues i was wondering if they would still fix if you claimed it had RROD since its hard to prove I don't think it will be a problem.

Anyone done this before and did you get your xbox back in one peace? Very Happy
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azzman




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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Jul 2008 11:17    Post subject:
Call me crazy, but some how I think the repair centre will most likely power the console on to confirm RROD. Worth a try I suppose
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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Jul 2008 11:19    Post subject:
azzman wrote:
Call me crazy, but some how I think the repair centre will most likely power the console on to confirm RROD. Worth a try I suppose
Yeah, probably.. but you neverk now tho. I bet they get tons of 360s every day :\
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DeMoN064




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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Jul 2008 11:32    Post subject:
The thing is RROD is very temperamental so if you had RROD when you told them, it might not be there when the repair centre get it Razz
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bringiton




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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Jul 2008 13:57    Post subject:
But then again they might only fix the RROD and the other problem will still be there Very Happy


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Munkeee




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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Jul 2008 14:03    Post subject:
you will get it back with a liteon

Plus mine red ringed twice and came back to life , Still sent it and got told motherboard and dvd drive was replaced


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DeMoN064




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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Jul 2008 14:54    Post subject:
Well, the problem is the fact that the DVD drive is not ejecting Razz It's not a bad firmware flash since it looks like its not been opened before (Warrernty intact)

My mates not bothered about the drive, since its not getting modded but he wants a workable drive replaced so he can resell it. Very Happy
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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Jul 2008 15:02    Post subject:
If it's out of warranty you'll still have to pay even for a RROD fix. So you might as well just tell them what the real problem is.


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DeMoN064




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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Jul 2008 15:51    Post subject:
Well, RROD issues are covered for 3 years Razz
http://news.cnet.com/2100-1014_3-6195058.html

How much is repair in the UK? if they want to charge me I would be best of fixing it myself me thinks.

Edit :

Costs about £30 for a replacement drive on ebay, But im not sure if I can get the drive key from the faulty drive :-/
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Boognish




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PostPosted: Wed, 30th Jul 2008 18:05    Post subject:
You could always just throw a pile of laundry on top of the 360 and run it until it shutsdown... chances are you will have RROD before you know it.


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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Jul 2008 00:40    Post subject:
DeMoN064 wrote:
Well, RROD issues are covered for 3 years Razz
http://news.cnet.com/2100-1014_3-6195058.html



It's either still in warranty or it isn't. Microsoft isn't specific about what kind of repairs are valid, as long as its related to a non-invasive hardware failure.

The only problem I can see is if they test it (and they will) and find the fault is due to negligence or tampering. Then they might just send it back unrepaired, but theres still nothing to lose by this.

Just send it in, and if it's still in warranty chances are you'll get it repaired regardless of the nature of the fault.


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towelie_swe




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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Jul 2008 01:12    Post subject:
Can't you just do the Towel-trick? I.E wrap some towels around the xbox and leave it on until it overheats and you get the RROD.
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DeMoN064




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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Jul 2008 20:44    Post subject:
towelie_swe wrote:
Can't you just do the Towel-trick? I.E wrap some towels around the xbox and leave it on until it overheats and you get the RROD.


I thought that temp fixed RROD? lol
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towelie_swe




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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Jul 2008 21:28    Post subject:
DeMoN064 wrote:
towelie_swe wrote:
Can't you just do the Towel-trick? I.E wrap some towels around the xbox and leave it on until it overheats and you get the RROD.


I thought that temp fixed RROD? lol

How would overheating your xbox fix the RROD? Confused
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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Thu, 31st Jul 2008 21:57    Post subject:
towelie_swe wrote:
DeMoN064 wrote:
towelie_swe wrote:
Can't you just do the Towel-trick? I.E wrap some towels around the xbox and leave it on until it overheats and you get the RROD.


I thought that temp fixed RROD? lol

How would overheating your xbox fix the RROD? Confused


By heating it until the solder reflows which temporarily fixes the connection fault in the warped motherboard which results in the RROD in the first place.

The towel trick can cause the RROD in a healthy 360, but it will usually function normally once it cools down. The motherboard warping takes a long time to achieve.


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DeMoN064




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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Aug 2008 19:44    Post subject:


... Useless.

I'll just phone them.. lol
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Aug 2008 19:54    Post subject:
i fixed my recently RRODing 360 with the towel trick fyi
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DeMoN064




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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Aug 2008 19:57    Post subject:
evilmonkey wrote:
i fixed my recently RRODing 360 with the towel trick fyi


It won't last long lol
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phunt




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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Aug 2008 21:59    Post subject:
DeMoN064 wrote:


... Useless.

I'll just phone them.. lol


It will say its out of warrenty anyway but will still let you go through the process , and when you select rrod as the problem it should state the price as £0.
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DeMoN064




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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Aug 2008 00:25    Post subject:
phunt wrote:

It will say its out of warrenty anyway but will still let you go through the process , and when you select rrod as the problem it should state the price as £0.


Meh, never got that to come up.. Think it was my ad blocker or something.. I've had to do it over the phone instead.
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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Aug 2008 04:47    Post subject:
I have a question.

I have 2 xbox 360 consoles. 1 of them Ive had since 2006 and the other one I recently purchased. The second one that I purchased it had RROD but I fixed it. And the condition of the second console is completely brand new. I even have the warranty sticker saved on wax paper.

Both of these consoles are February 2006 premium edition and have Samsung MS25 drives.

My older console however, repeatedly keeps giving me all sorts of errors. On average, I had to open that console at least 10 or 20 times a week because of issues. Now it just wont even turn on. The very middle light goes green but then nothing happens and no picture. I can't deal with this anymore. So I was thinking, would it be wise to attach the warranty sticker to my OLD console and send it in to Microsoft for a replacement and then just sell it?

Both of these consoles do NOT have any xclamps. Does Microsoft check for xclamps?



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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Aug 2008 05:27    Post subject:
1.they check for xclamps
2.why not replace the borked guts with the new case that has the serial number with valid warranty + warranty sticker
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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Aug 2008 06:12    Post subject:
Well thats was I was planning to do. Just put the old motherboard and drive and everything into the new cover and attach the warranty. The cover is in mint condition.



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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Aug 2008 07:29    Post subject:
ALright so I found the xclamps and put them back on lol. Theyre not bent in any way either. So now I put the old motherboard and dvd drive and fan and stuff into the NEW metal case because I noticed the metallic case has a serial number on it which matches the serial number on the white outer case. I also checked the serial numbers on the other components like fan, heatsinks, motherboard, RF module but they don't seem to match the console case's serial number so I don't think that matters much.

I also checked google for pics of the original xclamp positioning and put them back exactly in that way with the letters on the clamps facing a certain direction. I think I covered everything except one thing which I could not do. Under the heatsinks, I dont have the original microsoft thermal paste obviously. So I just put an extremely fine layer of arctic silver 5. Very neat and precisely covering only the surface of the chips. Thats the best I can do for now. I thought that would be better than having absolutely no paste in there.

Question: Do they check the dvd drive's fw? Should I flash back to ORIG?



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phunt




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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Aug 2008 11:58    Post subject:
I would definatley flash back to original.There would be no point going through all that trouble to swap the cases only to be cought out by something they could check in minutes. especially as it will only take you 5 minutes to flash it back.
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AnimalMother




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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Aug 2008 18:34    Post subject:
The important thing to note is that the worst case scenario is that they just don't send you the Xbox back. It's not as if you have much to lose.


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timechange01
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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Aug 2008 21:25    Post subject:
How do I flash back to original fw? Since Ive spent so much time just repairing, I completely forgot how to flash. I tried reading textbook's tutorial but it only mentions how to flash back to the original fw using the USB Flash drive that I used to flash it a year ago.



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PostPosted: Sat, 2nd Aug 2008 22:44    Post subject:
timechange01 erm did you backup your original firmware from your dvdrom before you flashed it? If not then your fucked


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timechange01
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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Aug 2008 00:12    Post subject:
Yea I have the original firmware saved on my computer. I just dont have it saved on the USB Flash Drive.



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PostPosted: Sun, 3rd Aug 2008 06:37    Post subject:
just send it back flashed, they don't test drive with a 360 backup, and loads of people i know have done it, some even get it back still flashed but normally the drive is replaced anyway
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