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 Posted: Sat, 27th Sep 2008 16:43 Post subject: Cats = dead |
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Its safe to assume both of my cats are dead. I personally don't really care that much since I never wanted them in the first place but its still mildly sad. The reason why I use the word "assume" is because I have yet to see corpses and one night I caught a raccoon on my front porch. Which foolishly I had chosen to ignore. Its been living around my house and a few neighbors houses for sometime now it seems and learned that some people leave food outside for their animals. I think the raccoon killed my cats. While uncommon and the thing certainly didn't seem rabid to me. Its still the main suspect.
First my adult male cat went missing and about 3 days later my female and pregnant cat has also gone missing this is the fourth day since the female cat has yet returned. Both went out at night and never came back. The raccoon's activity since then on my property has increased.
Perhaps the raccoon is just overly aggressive, perhaps its because of the food and territory issues, or maybe the raccoon has young nearby perhaps even on my property somewhere.
So I've been thinking of ways to rid of it and decided poison would be a bad idea as I don't wish to find several dead neighbor's cats and possibly the raccoon on my porch. This wouldn't make me very popular with the neighbors I'm sure. So what I plan on doing is I'm going to try to follow it one night and see where it leads me. If it does have babies I will call animal control and explain the situation and see if they can deal with it. If it does not however I plan on killing it. Perhaps with a trap will do... One that the trap itself does no bodily harm just in case a cat or other animal decides to go for the bait. I will most likely either stab the raccoon or if I feel like being cruel for what it did to my cats I will dump it down my well. (the well is no longer used and has underground running water and is simply just a small hole in the ground now covered up by a large heavy rock)
and simply let it drown while being washed away underground.
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| Posted: Sat, 27th Sep 2008 16:59 Post subject: |
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Cohen
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| Posted: Sat, 27th Sep 2008 17:01 Post subject: |
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shoot the raccoon then shoot yourself?
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deelix
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| Posted: Sat, 27th Sep 2008 17:01 Post subject: |
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Mine is probably dead too. Shy old male cat (17 years old)... so I don't think its been kidnapped.
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| Posted: Sat, 27th Sep 2008 17:01 Post subject: |
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YOU ARE AMERICAN
SHOOT IT
I would if a stupid bearcat killed my kitten!
Then I would stomp its head to pieces. Just because.
Squirrely: Now come on y'all. We can't waste time arguing. There could still be survivors out there. We need to hunt them down, and kill them.
Beary: How about we kill them, and then rape their bodies so we can use their blood as lubricant.
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| Posted: Sat, 27th Sep 2008 17:06 Post subject: |
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If you are bored you can set up one of those box traps help up with a stick and string. Stabbing it is a little harsh. You can't tell if it has rabies because it doesn't make them sick but they are still infectious. Sorry about your cats. People should keep their cats inside.
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Lutzifer
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| Posted: Sat, 27th Sep 2008 17:13 Post subject: |
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mmmh, perhaps going to your neighbours and check in with them would be a good idea. Tell em your cats have gone missing and you suspect the racoon. Ask em if their cats are safe or have also gone missing. If they are gone too, it might be worth to check in with animal control.
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deelix
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| Posted: Sat, 27th Sep 2008 17:15 Post subject: |
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| pistolshrimp wrote: | | People should keep their cats inside. |
Depends where you live. As you might know I live in the middle of nowhere. Most people want their cats to do their "business" outside too.
Some got those inside cats tho, they will probably not make it outside. Our was out 90% of the time. Just came in to eat... didn't even sleep here, slept in our boat or garage, lol.
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| Posted: Sat, 27th Sep 2008 18:00 Post subject: |
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Sounds kinda strange that the raccoon would just kill both cats out of nowhere... Correct me if I'm wrong, but cats run faster than raccoons so if a fight would brake, the cat couldve escaped, then you could see if the cat returns home injured.
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| Posted: Sat, 27th Sep 2008 18:37 Post subject: |
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Racoons do attack cats. Esp if the cat is in a tree or it gets cornered. Racoons are pretty fast. I think they would eat cats. Personally Nuke I think a Coyote got your cats.
When I was a kid my cat snoopy got attacked by a raccoon. She was running away and the racoon clawed her bum open. There was a hole downstairs that led into the walls and she hid in there. You could hear her crying but we couldn't get her out. My dad thought she was going to die inside the walls and that he was going to have to rip them down.
Those buggers come into my yard but not often because they are scared of the dog. My neighbors freak out and it is kinda funny. They grab their kids and run inside the house and and the whole family looks out the window. Then there is me throwing rocks it.
My big problem is with the skunks. There is so goddamn many of them. I have been driving by the same roadkill skunk for 4 days now. It still stinks. All my moms friends have had their white fluffy purebred dogs spayed. If I find that fuckers in my yard I am going to shoot it. I am not joking.
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| Posted: Sat, 27th Sep 2008 22:48 Post subject: |
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Just try to negotiate with it man (Racoon)
But seriously call some kind of animal control who can set up a trap to catch the bastard. From there they can determine if it's crazy, your justification is plenty good.
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Jenni
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| Posted: Sat, 27th Sep 2008 23:12 Post subject: |
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Pistol you can't negotiate with vermin 
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| Posted: Sat, 27th Sep 2008 23:25 Post subject: |
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| GeordieRacer wrote: | | Shoot it? |
While that is possible I really don't wish to shoot it and have neighbors freak out and call the police. I'm also sure that this would probably get me into some sort of legal trouble if I started shooting wild animals.
| kaeye wrote: | | shoot the raccoon then shoot yourself? |
Only if you are put into the center of the list.
| pistolshrimp wrote: | | If you are bored you can set up one of those box traps help up with a stick and string. Stabbing it is a little harsh. You can't tell if it has rabies because it doesn't make them sick but they are still infectious. Sorry about your cats. People should keep their cats inside. |
Well how would you have me kill it? With one of my larger knives I can safely stab it while its in a trap. Good to know about the rabies however and I will be extra careful now. Also I believe cats should be able to go out when they want to otherwise they end up becoming fat and lazy lounging around the house. Besides I don't wish to deny them the chance to mate.
| mark322 wrote: | | Sounds kinda strange that the raccoon would just kill both cats out of nowhere... Correct me if I'm wrong, but cats run faster than raccoons so if a fight would brake, the cat couldve escaped, then you could see if the cat returns home injured. |
Well the night the male cat did not come home the female was also outside perhaps the male defended the female to the death. She was pregnant and I do doubt that she could run as fast as the raccoon because of this factor. Of course that's just a guess many scenarios could have happened. The two cats got along and would spend entire days together. So I have no doubts that he would have protected her.
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frno
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| Posted: Sun, 28th Sep 2008 00:35 Post subject: |
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Hey wtf?? Youre supposed to be liberall and tolerant and all that crap, but now you cant decide how to kill an animal.. shoot it.. oh or maybe Ill stab it but noo dump it down the well.. FFS!! Thats cruel, you people really surprised me.
Animal rights anyone?
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| Posted: Sun, 28th Sep 2008 02:12 Post subject: |
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| frno wrote: | Hey wtf?? Youre supposed to be liberall and tolerant and all that crap, but now you cant decide how to kill an animal.. shoot it.. oh or maybe Ill stab it but noo dump it down the well.. FFS!! Thats cruel, you people really surprised me.
Animal rights anyone? |
The animal is clearly a danger to peoples pets. It must be exterminated. The way I choose to kill it hardly matters. It really doesn't matter how any creature dies rather when. Would you really care to choose how you die if the date was set in stone? If you had the choice of a painful death or a quick one would either really matter in the end as they produce the same results and you won't even be able to produce a single thought about your own death after it happens anyways.
As for animal rights how much rights I for one only mildly believe in animal rights and don't support most of the animal rights groups goals. Does the wolf show mercy or gently kill the rabbit stuck within its jaws? Even if it did would the rabbit be any happier about the situation? Besides if the raccoon has rabies I certainly should avoid any physical contact as well as prevent any other animal from trying to eat its corpse. The well is actually a logical solution to the problem.
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frno
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Why must it be 'exterminated'? Dont you feel bad about it? I mean you should atleast look for other ways to protect your pets not start exterminating. It sounds like a good fun for you.
| Quote: | | The animal is clearly a danger to peoples pets. It must be exterminated. |
Reminds me of something..
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| Posted: Sun, 28th Sep 2008 03:01 Post subject: |
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[quote="NuclearShadow"]
| pistolshrimp wrote: | | If you are bored you can set up one of those box traps help up with a stick and string. Stabbing it is a little harsh. You can't tell if it has rabies |
Altho I wanna kill the skunks in my area, I don't think you get it.
Ya, like your male cat defended the female to the death. Animals aren't like that. They chose themselves no. 1. You can get a type of pellet gun which has no sound.
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| Posted: Sun, 28th Sep 2008 04:43 Post subject: |
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| pistolshrimp wrote: | | Ya, like your male cat defended the female to the death. Animals aren't like that. They chose themselves no. 1. You can get a type of pellet gun which has no sound. |
Actually animals are like that dogs are the best example of this they will often defend their owner or even a fellow pet of the same household. Cats while its more uncommon also share this trait. I've have many cats through out my life and I've seen them act in interesting ways and work together in fights. I've even had one of my cats when I was young attack a kid because he started pushing me. (it was so funny because the kid ran away from the cat) In fact this sort of behavior is actually documented in wild situations too such as certain types of monkeys will actually jump into dangerous waters to save another monkey that is drowning risking their life to save another.
As for the pellet gun idea its not as good of a idea as it may sound. I may have to shoot it many times before it dies. It would be quicker and maybe even less messy with one good stab to a vital area.
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| Posted: Sun, 28th Sep 2008 04:44 Post subject: |
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| frno wrote: | Why must it be 'exterminated'? Dont you feel bad about it? I mean you should atleast look for other ways to protect your pets not start exterminating. It sounds like a good fun for you.
| Quote: | | The animal is clearly a danger to peoples pets. It must be exterminated. |
Reminds me of something.. |
Well thanks to it I have no pets. Besides how would you suggest protecting the cats? Keeping them inside certainly isn't good for their health. Also no i don't feel bad about it and why should I?
One problem with your logic the raccoon isn't anyone's pet and no one is going to miss it when its gone. It honestly shouldn't even be in this area to begin with and I just found out its been getting into people's trash and causing huge messes for some. So I'm going to remove the problem.
| pistolshrimp wrote: | | Ya, like your male cat defended the female to the death. Animals aren't like that. They chose themselves no. 1. You can get a type of pellet gun which has no sound. |
Actually animals are like that dogs are the best example of this they will often defend their owner or even a fellow pet of the same household. Cats while its more uncommon also share this trait. I've have many cats through out my life and I've seen them act in interesting ways and work together in fights. I've even had one of my cats when I was young attack a kid because he started pushing me. (it was so funny because the kid ran away from the cat) In fact this sort of behavior is actually documented in wild situations too such as certain types of monkeys will actually jump into dangerous waters to save another monkey that is drowning risking their life to save another.
As for the pellet gun idea its not as good of a idea as it may sound. I may have to shoot it many times before it dies. It would be quicker and maybe even less messy with one good stab to a vital area.
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Oct 2008 03:01 Post subject: |
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So how did this turn out?
Who won? Did anybody contract rabies? Did you and the badger strike up a life-long friendship, against all the odds? I WANT ANSWERS!
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SycoShaman
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| Posted: Tue, 21st Oct 2008 04:52 Post subject: |
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He went redneck yankee on em and blew away the cats and or skunk with a 12 gauge. 
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It was by the front wheel of a mail truck on the road. It was really cute, small, grey and super fluffy. I saw it at the last second but I wasn't going fast so I had time to stop. It is a side street but this road has super heavy traffic because it is a not so secret shortcut onto the bridge. You save like 25 mins in the am.
