It never did happen that way. The Japanese evaporated in less than 0.0016th of a second. Not enough time for the nervous system to send messages to the brain.
It's just that, this cartoon is so damn exaggerated and made to look like the bomb was nothing but evil.
nahh it was fun and justified
i'm 100% sure he is one of those brainwashed americans, that's how they teach them in school
No, kids these days are fucking emo's. School has gotten soft, and so is the information they teach kids. They pretty much tool around the whole atomic bomb wasn't justified bullshit. The Atomic Bomb was horrible - But the firebombings killed a lot more; and a shitload more would have died if we would have had to take the battle to the home islands.
Anyways, I could care less. At least we weren't torturing the Japanese people in horrible ways. We weren't freezing parts of their bodies alive to see the effects. Nor were we doing vivisections. Nor were we raping women, then doing vivisections around the 6 month mark and doing some more experiments on the 6 month year old child. The Japanese did some horrible fucking things during WW2 - So while the Atom Bomb did kill many innocent lives; IMO they fucking diserved it.
And if you want to talk about biased education - Many Japanese are never taught about the atrocities their country committed. A good portion of the Japanese population refuse that many of the warcrimes were never committed. Do some reading up on Unit 731. The amount of pain and suffering that was inflicted on the Chinese population alone is justification for the Atom Bomb.
I'd love to see them make a cartoon surronding the Rape of Nanking. Talk about fucking brutal.
First of all, the bombing of a civilian city such as Nagasaki and Hiroshima is an atrocity which certainly can be compared to some of the war crimes the empire made. And yes, they were savages but was it necessarily to descend onto that exact same level as them and erase a city clean off the face of the earth?
Furthermore it has been stated that the war eventually would cease a few months later without the involvement of the bombs. And dont give me that shit about the americans knew nothing about it. When confronting with a deed to kill thousands of civilians a president and his/her staff. better investigate every option and what the enemy is up to.
Clearly this was an ideal scenario for the americans;
A test to launch the most powerful weapon upon a population, reminds me of the radioactive tipped shells in Desert Storm.
nahh it was fun and justified
i'm 100% sure he is one of those brainwashed americans, that's how they teach them in school
No, kids these days are fucking emo's. School has gotten soft, and so is the information they teach kids. They pretty much tool around the whole atomic bomb wasn't justified bullshit. The Atomic Bomb was horrible - But the firebombings killed a lot more; and a shitload more would have died if we would have had to take the battle to the home islands.
Anyways, I could care less. At least we weren't torturing the Japanese people in horrible ways. We weren't freezing parts of their bodies alive to see the effects. Nor were we doing vivisections. Nor were we raping women, then doing vivisections around the 6 month mark and doing some more experiments on the 6 month year old child. The Japanese did some horrible fucking things during WW2 - So while the Atom Bomb did kill many innocent lives; IMO they fucking diserved it.
And if you want to talk about biased education - Many Japanese are never taught about the atrocities their country committed. A good portion of the Japanese population refuse that many of the warcrimes were never committed. Do some reading up on Unit 731. The amount of pain and suffering that was inflicted on the Chinese population alone is justification for the Atom Bomb.
I'd love to see them make a cartoon surronding the Rape of Nanking. Talk about fucking brutal.
Is torture of suspected terrorists and so called "stress method camps" placed in parts of the world not under the genevé convention so you can torture MOAR required reading/teaching in american schools? Hello double standard, I salute thee.
nahh it was fun and justified
i'm 100% sure he is one of those brainwashed americans, that's how they teach them in school
No, kids these days are fucking emo's. School has gotten soft, and so is the information they teach kids. They pretty much tool around the whole atomic bomb wasn't justified bullshit. The Atomic Bomb was horrible - But the firebombings killed a lot more; and a shitload more would have died if we would have had to take the battle to the home islands.
Anyways, I could care less. At least we weren't torturing the Japanese people in horrible ways. We weren't freezing parts of their bodies alive to see the effects. Nor were we doing vivisections. Nor were we raping women, then doing vivisections around the 6 month mark and doing some more experiments on the 6 month year old child. The Japanese did some horrible fucking things during WW2 - So while the Atom Bomb did kill many innocent lives; IMO they fucking diserved it.
And if you want to talk about biased education - Many Japanese are never taught about the atrocities their country committed. A good portion of the Japanese population refuse that many of the warcrimes were never committed. Do some reading up on Unit 731. The amount of pain and suffering that was inflicted on the Chinese population alone is justification for the Atom Bomb.
I'd love to see them make a cartoon surronding the Rape of Nanking. Talk about fucking brutal.
Is torture of suspected terrorists and so called "stress method camps" placed in parts of the world not under the genevé convention so you can torture MOAR required reading/teaching in american schools? Hello double standard, I salute thee.
No, I don't support that. I think it is horrible we are doing it. However, we aren't doing vivisections. Nor are we literally raping entire towns of people. Get a clue dude.
First of all, the bombing of a civilian city such as Nagasaki and Hiroshima is an atrocity which certainly can be compared to some of the war crimes the empire made. And yes, they were savages but was it necessarily to descend onto that exact same level as them and erase a city clean off the face of the earth?
Furthermore it has been stated that the war eventually would cease a few months later without the involvement of the bombs. And dont give me that shit about the americans knew nothing about it. When confronting with a deed to kill thousands of civilians a president and his/her staff. better investigate every option and what the enemy is up to.
Clearly this was an ideal scenario for the americans;
A test to launch the most powerful weapon upon a population, reminds me of the radioactive tipped shells in Desert Storm.
I disagree with the war ending without the use of the bomb. I don't beleive it would have happened.
As for a test launch - Fuck yes it was. I'm glad the United States were the first to use it and not Russia. Because you know for a fact that if we wouldn't have used it first - Russia would have completed there program and used it. Of course, they probably would have used it on the same people considering the war would have lasted at least a few more years.
The bottom line is that there was a good chance Japan wasn't going to surrender. So either we could have continued fire-bombing Japan and killing a fuckload more, invaded - killing even a fuckload more, or drop the bomb and be done with it.
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So what? Nobody her thinks that the cartoon is an accurate depiction of reality but it's just simply retarded to take the stand that you are. Firstly you I only have to mention one word to completely ruin everything you said about what america does and does not: Vietnam.
Secondly, this is fucking ancient history. Japan is now one of the entire wests closest allies.
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So what? Nobody her thinks that the cartoon is an accurate depiction of reality but it's just simply retarded to take the stand that you are. Firstly you I only have to mention one word to completely ruin everything you said about what america does and does not: Vietnam.
Secondly, this is fucking ancient history. Japan is now one of the entire wests closest allies.
So what? Nobody her thinks that the cartoon is an accurate depiction of reality but it's just simply retarded to take the stand that you are. Firstly you I only have to mention one word to completely ruin everything you said about what america does and does not: Vietnam.
Secondly, this is fucking ancient history. Japan is now one of the entire wests closest allies.
Anyways, I could care less. At least we weren't torturing the Japanese people in horrible ways. We weren't freezing parts of their bodies alive to see the effects. Nor were we doing vivisections. Nor were we raping women, then doing vivisections around the 6 month mark and doing some more experiments on the 6 month year old child. The Japanese did some horrible fucking things during WW2 - So while the Atom Bomb did kill many innocent lives; IMO they fucking diserved it.
However brutal those vivisections and other experiments were, their results improved our medical and other scientific knowledge significantly. They were horrible and cruel, but at least something came out of them, and that information could have saved many lives up to now.
Then, there's your bomb. Nothing good ever came out of it, and as of today, these nuclear monstrosities are still instruments of terror. And I'm not talking about the small-time terror, that you americans are so on about nowdays, but one of the most significant threat to the whole human race.
Mchart wrote:
Nor were we raping women
Maybe not on such a significant scale, but I'm sure some of your soldiers did. It's just hidden behind all the glorious bullshit you keep making up in WW2 movies, you know "the victor writes the history texts"...
Mchart wrote:
So while the Atom Bomb did kill many innocent lives; IMO they fucking diserved it.
Yeah, 'cause those innocents raped and tortured too, right? Oh wait... they didn't. That's why they were innocents, right? Noone deserves to be nuked just because their goverment, or soldiers or whoever they are associated with does some fucked-up shit. Unless it's them, who did it. But even then, it's questionable. Dropping that bomb was the very same act of terrorism that your "glorious" goverment is fighting nowdays. Fuckin' redneks...
Anyways, I could care less. At least we weren't torturing the Japanese people in horrible ways. We weren't freezing parts of their bodies alive to see the effects. Nor were we doing vivisections. Nor were we raping women, then doing vivisections around the 6 month mark and doing some more experiments on the 6 month year old child. The Japanese did some horrible fucking things during WW2 - So while the Atom Bomb did kill many innocent lives; IMO they fucking diserved it.
2 things. However brutal those vivisections and other experiments were, their results improved our medical and other scientific knowledge significantly. They were horrible and cruel, but at least something came out of them, and that information could have saved many lives up to now.
Then, there's your bomb. Nothing good ever came out of it, and as of today, these nuclear monstrosities are still instruments of terror. And I'm not talking about the small-time terror, that you americans are so on about nowdays, but one of the most significant threat to the whole human race.
Mchart wrote:
Nor were we raping women
Maybe not on such a significant scale, but I'm sure some of your soldiers did. It's just hidden behind all the glorious bullshit you keep making up in WW2 movies, you know "the victor writes the history texts"...
Mchart wrote:
So while the Atom Bomb did kill many innocent lives; IMO they fucking diserved it.
Yeah, 'cause those innocents raped and tortured too, right? Oh wait... they didn't. That's why they were innocents, right? Noone deserves to be nuked just because their goverment, or soldiers or whoever they are associated with does some fucked-up shit. Unless it's them, who did it. But even then, it's questionable. Dropping that bomb was the very same act of terrorism that your "glorious" goverment is fighting nowdays. Fuckin' redneks...
Justifying the work of Unit 731. Congratulations - You are a fucktard.
Here, let me rape your wife so I can gain some useful knowledge by doing so.
By the same token, a shitload more came out of the knowledge learned from dropping the A-Bomb.
Anyways, I could care less. At least we weren't torturing the Japanese people in horrible ways. We weren't freezing parts of their bodies alive to see the effects. Nor were we doing vivisections. Nor were we raping women, then doing vivisections around the 6 month mark and doing some more experiments on the 6 month year old child. The Japanese did some horrible fucking things during WW2 - So while the Atom Bomb did kill many innocent lives; IMO they fucking diserved it.
2 things. However brutal those vivisections and other experiments were, their results improved our medical and other scientific knowledge significantly. They were horrible and cruel, but at least something came out of them, and that information could have saved many lives up to now.
Then, there's your bomb. Nothing good ever came out of it, and as of today, these nuclear monstrosities are still instruments of terror. And I'm not talking about the small-time terror, that you americans are so on about nowdays, but one of the most significant threat to the whole human race.
Mchart wrote:
Nor were we raping women
Maybe not on such a significant scale, but I'm sure some of your soldiers did. It's just hidden behind all the glorious bullshit you keep making up in WW2 movies, you know "the victor writes the history texts"...
Mchart wrote:
So while the Atom Bomb did kill many innocent lives; IMO they fucking diserved it.
Yeah, 'cause those innocents raped and tortured too, right? Oh wait... they didn't. That's why they were innocents, right? Noone deserves to be nuked just because their goverment, or soldiers or whoever they are associated with does some fucked-up shit. Unless it's them, who did it. But even then, it's questionable. Dropping that bomb was the very same act of terrorism that your "glorious" goverment is fighting nowdays. Fuckin' redneks...
Justifying the work of Unit 731. Congratulations - You are a fucktard.
Here, let me rape your wife so I can gain some useful knowledge by doing so.
By the same token, a shitload more came out of the knowledge learned from dropping the A-Bomb.
Please point out to me, where did I justify rapes again? And I didn't justify the rest either, I just said that what they did, however inhuman and cruel it was, was indeed useful for science in it's own fucked-up way. It's the truth, even if you think I'm a fucktard for admitting it. If you don't admit it, you're simply ignorant.
I don't say I agree with what they did. Hell no. If I could choose to do those things to help science, I would say no without even thinking about it. But facts are facts.
Oh, and please tell me what did we learn from dropping that bomb? That it evaporates civilian targets in the matter of seconds? Or, that children are vulnurable to explosions? Useful knowledge indeed. Congratulations to you, sir!
@tainted: sorry, I wasn't really clear on that comment. What I was trying to express, that with the invention and production of nukes, humanity opened a new era of warfare, in which every conflict carries within them the total annihilation of a county or even the world. They also chaged the balance of power in the world, in a meaning that the countries that have them became, "superior" to those who don't. Maybe it doesn't show in peace time, but if another large-scale conflict ever broke out again, the ones that had the final say would be the ones with the most amount of nukes. The countries without them would be easily opressed by the ones with them. In short, noone dares to fuck with those who have nukes, so they can pretty much do whatever they wish to. Those are my thoughts anyway.
Yeah, because what you can't see is not there, right? I just love people with this kind of attitude. Whatever. This discussion was pointless to begin with.
Nothing good ever comes from wars and killing people.
The fact is that Americans provoked the attack on Pearl Harbor. They cut of Japans fuel line, harassed the Japanese which lived in USA etc. And Americans knew that they're going to be attacked .
The war would end even if USA didn't drop the A-bomb, that's also the fact. Russians had the plan to bring japan down right after the fall of Berlin. USA dropped the bomb and of course Japan backed down. To be precise, USA dropped 2 bombs. And if they saw the size of destruction which came from the first one, why did they dropped the second one?
Americans didn't have to drop the bomb on the populated towns, they did test it in Nevada desert.
There just isn't an excuse for killing people (on both sides).
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chiv wrote:
thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found.
Nothing good ever comes from wars and killing people.
The fact is that Americans provoked the attack on Pearl Harbor. They cut of Japans fuel line, harassed the Japanese which lived in USA etc. And Americans knew that they're going to be attacked .
The war would end even if USA didn't drop the A-bomb, that's also the fact. Russians had the plan to bring japan down right after the fall of Berlin. USA dropped the bomb and of course Japan backed down. To be precise, USA dropped 2 bombs. And if they saw the size of destruction which came from the first one, why did they dropped the second one?
Americans didn't have to drop the bomb on the populated towns, they did test it in Nevada desert.
There just isn't an excuse for killing people (on both sides).
It was Japan's choice to attack Pearl Harbor. They brought themselves into the war. Your damn skippy we cut off their Oil - And thats because they made an alliance with Nazi Germany.
The war would have ended without the A-Bomb's, but I beleive a lot more would have died, because the fire bombings would have continued - and killed a shitload more.
nukes are the best to end anything that annoys you
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as for me I couldn't care less japan knew they were dealing with a giant monster in the beginning , serves them right
besides look at them now , they're leading in technology field and making tons of money
and they're in good terms with america
nukes really make wonders , stop being a wussy and look on the bright side
It's funny you call people "pussies" for not agreeing with this type of military strategy, but the US policy of chickenshit bombing pretty much makes them the biggest pussies on the planet
It's funny you call people "pussies" for not agreeing with this type of military strategy, but the US policy of chickenshit bombing pretty much makes them the biggest pussies on the planet
I wouldn't call it pussy for dropping a fucking MOAB on a fucking A-Rab riding his camel in the middle of the desert. It's just kickass use of tax dollars.
well japanese weren't an easy opponent , so that was their only way out
nuke'em all let god sort'em out, sure many people died , but it turned out okay
japan now is better than ever
I'm not taking sides here
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