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 Posted: Thu, 11th Dec 2008 22:47 Post subject: Games perform better on xp or vista ? |
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Gidday mates,
im currently on xp ive messed with vista on my brothers laptop and dont like it very heavy and complicated xp is simple and easy. my rig is : c2d e6550 2.4 (btw how good is this cpu?)
kingstone 4gb ddr2 800
twintech 9800gt oc
gigabyte p35 s3l
500w hec (is this enough power for my system ? i have 5 fans and 3 sata hdds and dvd drive)
i want to know for performence game wise am i better with xp playing on dx9 or should i switch to vista so i can use dx10 (what will perform better ?)if so what version x64 or x86 not sure what they mean.
cheers!
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Thu, 11th Dec 2008 23:01 Post subject: |
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With a Core 2 Duo and 4GB of ram, there is no noticeable difference between XP and Vista. The drivers have matured quite well already.
About DX10, the only game I remember that it actually ran faster than DX9 was Crysis Warhead (of all games), that looked better and ran faster. Otherwise, it's the same performance-wise as DX9. 
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| Posted: Thu, 11th Dec 2008 23:20 Post subject: |
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so im better off staying with vista ? what about future games in the long run in 2009 will it be better to have vista ?
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| Posted: Thu, 11th Dec 2008 23:36 Post subject: |
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you got 4 gig of ram so you will have to stay with vista in less you dont mind losing a gig.
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| Posted: Thu, 11th Dec 2008 23:40 Post subject: |
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| uploader wrote: | | you got 4 gig of ram so you will have to stay with vista in less you dont mind losing a gig. |
This is not true. He can put XP x64 and he will have all 4GB of memory. On the other hand, even if he puts Vista x86, he will still lose the memory.
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| Posted: Thu, 11th Dec 2008 23:42 Post subject: |
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Not a gig.. 512 xp shows 3.5gb.
so will i get better performence with xp with dx9 or vista dx10 ? will dx9 games run better on xp or vista ?
what is x64 x86 on both os's ?
does vista not allow 4gb ram ?
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Dec 2008 00:14 Post subject: |
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Only 64bit systems allow 4GB+ RAM. So you'd either have to choose XP 64bit or Vista 64bit. Anything above aproximately 3,2 Gb on a 32bit system goes to waste. That is 3,2 Gb = RAM + graphics cards RAM. Either way 32bit systems are going to be a thing of the past for gamers in 2 years in my oppinion since most new games will require more than 3GB of available ram to function on high detail. Which is what you want probably.
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Dec 2008 00:27 Post subject: |
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whats the difference between the 64 and 86 ? they both run faster then the 32 right ?
so for now i should stick to xp 64 ?
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Dec 2008 00:51 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Dec 2008 00:52 Post subject: |
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| Shayetet13 wrote: | whats the difference between the 64 and 86 ? they both run faster then the 32 right ?
so for now i should stick to xp 64 ? |
| Quote: | the term x86-64 is often used to denote 64-bit software, with the term x86 implying only 32-bit.
The names x86-64 or x64 are often used as vendor-neutral terms to collectively refer to x86-64 processors from any company. |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86-64
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Dec 2008 00:55 Post subject: |
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yeah man you could've just say x86=32bit instead of professionalizing here:>
yes
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Dec 2008 02:35 Post subject: |
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Ok i think ill try out the xp x64... is there any way to convert or do i have to make a fresh install? does the xp sp3 update apply for x64 or only 32? i see x64 has a sp2...
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Dec 2008 02:40 Post subject: |
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XP x64 is a different code-base (from Server 2003) than XP x86, so you have to see what is the most recent SP for Server 03, and that would be the latest for x64.
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Dec 2008 03:18 Post subject: |
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lol XP 64bit has HORRIBLE support.
IF your on Vista with that much memory your better off staying on it. They've got it working to the point theres no need to go back.
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Dec 2008 03:25 Post subject: |
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Spykez did you finally move completely to Vista? The new PC perhaps?
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| Posted: Fri, 12th Dec 2008 03:48 Post subject: |
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| iNatan wrote: | | Spykez did you finally move completely to Vista? The new PC perhaps? |
nah, this rig is still on XP. I'm prob moving to 64bit vista once I get the new one built since I'll have the memory for it. |
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| Posted: Sat, 13th Dec 2008 00:25 Post subject: |
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If your major turn-off is the complexity of Vista (mentioned earlier) or that Vista runs too many background programs etc... then I'd suggest getting a copy of Vista-64 and using a program called VLite (www.nliteos.com) and customizing your copy of Vista to remove stuff like Aero & UAC -- and also some of the background programs -- this will make it closer to the functionality of XP /w minimum tweaking. Once you use vista for a while it'll grow on you, and besides 64bit is the future so you might as well jump on it now since your system will benefit from it.
IMO, and that of many others i've read -- Vista64 runs a lot smoother and has more compatability then XP64.
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| Posted: Sat, 13th Dec 2008 00:44 Post subject: |
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And why would he want to remove Aero? Vista feels much more smoother with it than without, and if a very rare occasion arises to need to disable it, then he can do it per application level.
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| Posted: Sat, 13th Dec 2008 02:53 Post subject: |
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| iNatan wrote: | | And why would he want to remove Aero? Vista feels much more smoother with it than without, and if a very rare occasion arises to need to disable it, then he can do it per application level. |
Because he said vista is "heavy and complicated xp is simple and easy" by removing (or as you said disabling at application level) it'll bring vista much closer to XP... I was merely suggesting different solutions for poster to make it lighter and more like XP, which Vlite can provide.
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| Posted: Sat, 13th Dec 2008 06:40 Post subject: |
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lol how is vista complicated, the only thing different is it's looks and they renamed everything.
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| Posted: Sat, 13th Dec 2008 13:37 Post subject: |
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i didnt mean complicated as in i dont what im doing i meant its complicated for example to get to the task manager you press ctrl alt dlt and a menu pops up and then you have to choose task manager annoying shit like that,
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| Posted: Sat, 13th Dec 2008 15:40 Post subject: |
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anyhow i need to make a decision support wise xp 64 is well supported and vista 64 is plus vista has dx10 but i prefer xp interface.
i would also like to have full use of all my ram.
so should i change to vista 64 try xp 64 or just stay with xp32 sp3 ?
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| Posted: Sat, 13th Dec 2008 18:01 Post subject: |
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| Shayetet13 wrote: | | to get to the task manager you press ctrl alt dlt and a menu pops up and then you have to choose task manager annoying shit like that, |
It was the same with XP... :\
Shayetet13 (are you Israeli?  ), just install Vista 64 and try it. If you don't like it, install XP 64. |
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| Posted: Sat, 13th Dec 2008 18:39 Post subject: |
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To get to the task manager press CTRL + SHIFT + ESC in vista.
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| Posted: Sat, 13th Dec 2008 19:12 Post subject: |
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XP
I also think fisk should be unbanned.
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