the old old question that comes up all the time, and im sure you have all heard it time and time again but please just humour me and tell me the reasons why PC gaming is not dying..
Yeah the burden of proof is usually on the one making the claim..
I don't think PC gaming is in a bad state right now, of course it could be a lot better, but there's just no going back to the 90's anymore.
"He offered up stats on the US and worldwide PC games market, saying the former (not including casual games) in 2007 generated $2.76bn revenue, a year-on-year rise of 12 per cent, accounted for 30 per cent of gaming revenues in the territory, and was set to make $9.6bn - a rise of 16 per cent - in 2008."
"For the global games market the figures were $8.3bn in 2007, up 14 per cent, with 2008 revenues set to be $9.6bn, up for 16 per cent.
There are 263 million onlne PC gamers worldwide, added Stude, saying it was proof that the PC gaming market's death has been greatly exaggerated."
Tbh the industry changes and isn't always what any given gamer might want it to be. So if it changes enough, like the Sims being #1 or Wow propelling the market forward, hardcore FPS'ers are gonna say PC gaming is dieing. Vice versa.
No its not. There have been slight domination of consoles ,(X360 , and PS3) from 2006 -2008 , but today ..with price of 2gb DDR2 is like 2 X PIZZA , and cheap cards like HD 3870 and 8800 and above , with dual/quad CPU. wich can run most of newer games in high details..no
As for PSP ..I agree..I sold it cause in last year I played mostly titles PSX2PSP (PS1 games) and use
it as emulator for SEGA/SNES/GBA..PSP library of games is dissapointing...if any of console is dying its PSP.
DS is also lacking down of good games lately..PS2 is becoming legacy..and old XBOX 1 is mainly used
by people as multimedia center..games arent coming for that platform for 2 years..
And that is coming to an end slowly , because it isnt capable to reproduce HD material , wich is
becoming more often these days. On the other hand , cheap PC with HDMI output , have no problem to play 720p or 1080 video.
Nintendo Wii is binary choice. You like it , or you hated. 1 or 0. Not everyone wants to wave around with wiimote controler.
XBOX 360...I dont know..It would stand a chance to PC if you can use it like XBOX 1, (media center + bigger HDD +games/movies on HDD). And of course RROD is still the issue.
PS3..just to expensive device,games, no backup play..and if there were Blue Ray burners and media are still expensive...limited issues as multi-media machine.
From all the above I choose the PC for gaming.
4 + GB of RAM pair with quad CPU , FAST HDD , and something like HD 4850/4870 is delivering far more joy for that money.
Hell , I use X360 controler with games on my PC , on LCD hooked with HDMI output
and play some games from bed just like on consoles...
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Nintendo Wii is binary choice. You like it , or you hated. 1 or 0.
I like that, well put.
IDK what it is about consoles but I could never enjoy playing games on them. I really hope PC gaming stays strong because I could never be a console gamer.
the old old question that comes up all the time, and im sure you have all heard it time and time again but please just humour me and tell me the reasons why PC gaming is not dying..
Deja Vu for the 10th million time. This never seems to grow old or suprise people.
Tbh the industry changes and isn't always what any given gamer might want it to be. So if it changes enough, like the Sims being #1 or Wow propelling the market forward, hardcore FPS'ers are gonna say PC gaming is dieing. Vice versa.
For almost every multiplatform title, PC Games sales are less then console ones even though ~25% of PC Games stay uncracked or unproper cracked or not cracked upto the latest Patches avaiable and every single Console title is pirated.
Piracy is not realy a problem as it was existing all the days and with a little effort you could access it. The main problem for PC Games these days is that you need and 1000$ PC to play the games - at least in an medium resolution at least for 1 year. The next generation consoles like xbox360 and ps3 cost less then 400$ and you always get the game in best quality. So in the parents point of view the console is less then half the price, the games cost just 10$ more then PC and the console lasts usualy atleast 3-5 years.
So companies made their own grave
But i am sure PC Gaming stays alive as lonng as almost all coding happens on PC. Cause usualy you start with c++ and c# coding before you translate it to ps3 code and so . So you will always have a PC version developed before the console is. In That case i am sure ~80% od companies will continue PC Games for sure cause its somethingneeded to be done anyway.
Same hapened to music industry. They partied the Various Artist Samplers years ago but it was the dead for Albums sales as usualy an album has like 12 songs where 2 or 3 are real good. And these go to samplers very imediatly. And today piracy is the reason why albums dont sell proper because they need money help from whoever.
PC gaming isn't dead yet - its simply being inbred and raped by consoles.
As Hitler"ish" as it may seem - the two ought to stay separate for the benefit of both.
Ever since developing for multiple platforms at the same time became main-stream, PC greats have gone down the shitter. Among the first to fall were the Deus Ex and Thief series, with many more in their wake. More recently a shining example of multi-platformed failure - Frontlnes: Fuel at War.
It has nothing to do with piracy or cost, and everything to do with market share and appealing to the lowest common denominator.
You can argue it till you're blue in the face, but its the truth. I don't expect people to understand unless they've been gaming on PC since the late 90's. No, its not just nostalgia and looking at the titles through rose colored glasses. And no, its not elitism.
The hard fact remains that PC's are far and away more capable and versatile than any console will ever be. It's not elitism - its truth.
As an example - my PS3 has 8 parallel er what-have-you-fuck processors and it can't even fucking play an MP3 from my library at the same time I'm gaming? Explain that one to me.
When you design for consoles you start cutting features that console's cannot handle, you start optimizing the interface for controllers (*cough* Oblivion stock interface *cough), you start thinking SIMPLE.
In closing , I pose this question - why does Left 4 Dead not have a server browser? It's made by a company that's been developing for PC's since time immemorial. Oh....that's right..........
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I dont think pc gaming is dying BUT if the current trend of console imports continues it will , If it dies it will die because of lazy developers and hardware costs ( i dont have to upgrade my 360,ps3.wii every time a good title is supposedly coming out) add into that the fact that the majority of games may look nice but play like crap crysis,fc2 *insert your own hated game here*all of these facts combined are pushing gamers away from the pc and onto consoles , piracy is in no way killing pc gaming , bad development is.
In closing , I pose this question - why does Left 4 Dead not have a server browser? It's made by a company that's been developing for PC's since time immemorial. Oh....that's right..........
PC gaming will die the same day the last game developer on earth dies, but not a second before that.
As long as there are game developers using PCs every day, there will be PC games as well. Maybe we will not see that many new games released as we see now, but it is not necessarily a bad thing...
I would be fine with just one master of orion/civilization/counter strike caliber title every few months, but those should be rock solid and something you can play for months to come.
What do we get now instead? Assembly line games, that are literally copy-pasted together from other/previous titles. Games that are..
1) either not even worth checking out
or
2) can not hold you nailed to your seat for more than a few hours
or even
3) manage to nail you to your seat, but do not last longer than a few hours
I say: let the gaming industry burn, so that a new breed of game developers can arise from the ashes.
But for real- PC gaming will never die. Look how X360 games get pirated- Fallout 3 was leaked one month before retail.... And I think GOW2 leaked one/two weeks before the street release date. I mean- IMO consoles are just PCs without the ability to upgrade and with no keyboard.
And yes, I know you can buy keyboard for consoles. That makes them even more PC-like which only proves my point.
The main problem for PC Games these days is that you need and 1000$ PC to play the games - at least in an medium resolution at least for 1 year.
where the heck do you buy your pc ?
my PC (the part needed for gaming anyway, not gonna count all my hdd's e.g.)
is worth 1000$ an i can play every single game out there in highest settings with usually 4xAA (which is more than enough) with good framerates ...
and the argument in itself is flawed, since 2-10 years ago, you payed considerably more for the same performance/cost ratio from today. WAY WAY more (example, 8800GTX , it costs like double the todays 9800GTX , less performance , higher price)
HDD's are like cheap cookies, get a handful, get some free ( 1TB for around 100$ here)
Same with ram, 1GB sticks of good Brand ram, 50-70$
Most expansive in my PC is actually the screen, a acer 22" WS , but its also the thing you wont have to change for the longest (i had my old screen for like 7 years lol). + i use my pc as media center and anything (i dont own a tv) and watch shows, movies etc on it, play games, listen music, work with. So all in all, those ~1000$ are probably a rather good invest ... 5 years ago, i wouldn't have had a pc nearly as good (again, cost/performance ratio)
So anyway , if anything, the prices of pc's today would be a push FOR oc market, not against it.
Ahh, Christmas is coming.
Santa Claus, gifts, the usual "pc game is dying article/topic"...
I think i've been reading about this since the mid 90's, and always by this time of the year.
More than 10 years later and they're still here...
See you next year "pc games are dying topic/article"..
Maybe some of use are just becoming disillisioned with all the crappy console ports we have to endure anymore console ports and i may as well just play games on my console.
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