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 Posted: Wed, 24th Dec 2008 20:21 Post subject: Learning to play a guitar |
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Any tips? ways to do it?
I know that i should start with an acoustic guitar, but what kind of guitar? and what brand?
Some advice please ! 
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nouseforaname
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Dec 2008 20:44 Post subject: |
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Try to learn the basics, chords, picking and stuff. It's easier to play electric guitar (without the effects) than acoustic. And you just have to practice. And get yourself guitar pro 5 with realistic sound effects, it's good for practice. And yes, don't spend, like 6000$ for Gibson Les Paul, and then quit playing, get sth cheap like epiphone or squire...
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Dec 2008 20:52 Post subject: Re: Learning to play a guitar |
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Dec 2008 21:20 Post subject: |
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You don't necessarily have to start with an acoustic guitar. If you like electric guitars better, even though they're generally more expensive and a bit easier to play, it might keep you more motivated - after that you can always get an acoustic.
And get lessons. Really. If you learn from the internet, you'll learn that you have missed several nuances a couple of months later, and there are increased chances of developing several bad habits/techniques that are hard to get rid of.
Buy a decent amp, and don't get a cheap Squier or cheap Epiphone. Get at least a Mexican stratocaster or a mid-end Epiphone SG/Les Paul. I have a Gibson Les Paul Studio and a genuine vintage Fender Mustang (almost the exact same one Kurt Cobain played & babied.) However, stratocasters are fantastic for beginners! Great tones and great value. I only have the Mustang because I'm a Cobain fan. Saving up for a nice Mexican strat that won't break the bank.
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Dec 2008 22:07 Post subject: Re: Learning to play a guitar |
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| deelix wrote: | | tikkietegek wrote: | Any tips? ways to do it?
I know that i should start with an acoustic guitar, but what kind of guitar? and what brand?
Some advice please ! |
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That is actually the reason i want to learn to play a "normal" guitar, i am currently playing some songs onexpert in GH WT, i need a new challenge 
@ Others: Thx for the advice!! The reason i want to go for an acoustic is that people have told me that the transition form an acoustic to an electric is really easy, but going from electric guitar to acoustic is really difficult. Anyone with experience in this?
And about the choice of brands, someone recommended me Squire guitars, because they are the entry level brand from Fender, Good choice? |
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| Posted: Wed, 24th Dec 2008 22:27 Post subject: Re: Learning to play a guitar |
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| tikkietegek wrote: | | deelix wrote: | | tikkietegek wrote: | Any tips? ways to do it?
I know that i should start with an acoustic guitar, but what kind of guitar? and what brand?
Some advice please ! |
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That is actually the reason i want to learn to play a "normal" guitar, i am currently playing some songs onexpert in GH WT, i need a new challenge
@ Others: Thx for the advice!! The reason i want to go for an acoustic is that people have told me that the transition form an acoustic to an electric is really easy, but going from electric guitar to acoustic is really difficult. Anyone with experience in this?
And about the choice of brands, someone recommended me Squire guitars, because they are the entry level brand from Fender, Good choice? |
Squiers are really hit-or-miss, I reckon by far most are horrible. You could get one model and it sounds crap, and the one next to it which looks and is exactly the same model, and it sounds okay. Still, if you think you're going to be a serious player, I'd get a (second hand?) made in Mexico Fender stratocaster. They're about 1.5 or twice as expensive as a Squier, but usually MUCH better, which will motivate you to play more often.
edit; Not unimportant, they keep their resale value better than a Squier. Not like a Fender USA, but close. (Just don't get a Highway One.)
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Dec 2008 00:12 Post subject: Re: Learning to play a guitar |
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| Praetori wrote: | | tikkietegek wrote: | | deelix wrote: |
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That is actually the reason i want to learn to play a "normal" guitar, i am currently playing some songs onexpert in GH WT, i need a new challenge
@ Others: Thx for the advice!! The reason i want to go for an acoustic is that people have told me that the transition form an acoustic to an electric is really easy, but going from electric guitar to acoustic is really difficult. Anyone with experience in this?
And about the choice of brands, someone recommended me Squire guitars, because they are the entry level brand from Fender, Good choice? |
Squiers are really hit-or-miss, I reckon by far most are horrible. You could get one model and it sounds crap, and the one next to it which looks and is exactly the same model, and it sounds okay. Still, if you think you're going to be a serious player, I'd get a (second hand?) made in Mexico Fender stratocaster. They're about 1.5 or twice as expensive as a Squier, but usually MUCH better, which will motivate you to play more often.
edit; Not unimportant, they keep their resale value better than a Squier. Not like a Fender USA, but close. (Just don't get a Highway One.) |
No point in spending lots of money on a high quality neat electric guitar as a first guitar, the difference in quality won't be noticeable for a complete beginner. If he sticks with it and find he's got the talent he'll want to buy a better guitar that fits his hands and playing.
I'd go with one of those dirt cheap guitar-amp combo sets to begin with, alternatively a second-hand acoustic steel stringed guitar (not a classical nylon stringed guitar).
Then I'd go to this place: http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/video-lessons/absolute-beginner_0.html and start doing the lessons to learn the basics as well as watch videos and see fretboard/tab stuff to learn fingering.
With a little practice this shouldn't be too hard to learn: http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guitar/extreme-neo-classic/ 
Or maybe this: http://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guitar/three-level-solo-advanced/
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Dec 2008 00:26 Post subject: |
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I started with my dads old acoustic guitar, it was a difficult start, but when I bought my electric guitar it was totally wicked  I could reach with my thumb to places I couldn't on acoustic guitar, but that's because I had acoustic guitar with thick neck and now days you can buy good fender acoustic guitar with the neck similar to that of telecaster. And I didn't buy fender or gibson guitar because they were expensive and I don't play in a band or anything (more for my own pleasure ). For start you go with something cheap to mid range, and when you feel you could be next Hendrix or Page you can go and buy yourself some big boy guitar
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Dec 2008 00:58 Post subject: |
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I'd ask what type of music are you interested in playing? i've never wanted to play electric guitar although i've owned a couple, but never got into them.
I've played Acoustic since 1993, the type of music i like is played on acoustics, so that's where you need to start, because you have to REALLY want to play to learn. it's not easy to start and you need to be dedicated and put in the time every day... at the begining i used to fall asleep with my guitar on the bed sometimes, and the first thing i did in the morning was pick it up and play before i got out of bed! lol
As said whatever you choose start out with a cheap but easy to play guitar, if you buy crap it will play crap and you might give up thinking it's too hard, when in fact it's a poorly setup or built guitar that's holding you back.
There's shit loads of stuff on the net these days,esp youetube. but as someone said earlier a teacher is a very good idea to get a good grounding of the basics, that's what i did :¬)
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Dec 2008 08:21 Post subject: |
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Fenders suck shit. You buy a cheap quality guitar, your not going to get the good sound that'll make you want to keep playing.
Get an ESP with the EMG 81/85 Active pickup combo. Stick with marshall or peavey for the amps.
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Dec 2008 11:31 Post subject: |
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| SpykeZ wrote: | Fenders suck shit. You buy a cheap quality guitar, your not going to get the good sound that'll make you want to keep playing.
Get an ESP with the EMG 81/85 Active pickup combo. Stick with marshall or peavey for the amps. |
I firmly disagree with the 'Fenders suck shit' comment, and I'm not even biased since I'm primarily a Gibson player when not doing Nirvana covers on my Mustang (which, in most aspects but looks, is a horrible overpriced guitar). Other than that, I agree.
However, Vox amps are pretty damn good for beginners too. A small DA5 for bedroom practice is awesome.
I've always stuck with the philosophy 'if you're serious about beginning, take the best guitar you can buy'.
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Dec 2008 12:26 Post subject: |
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SpykeZ is right tho, ESP ftw (and no, you don't have to start with an acoustic guitar, it's just cheaper usually).
Get the Guitar Pro program, it's a great help for beginners and even later on, since you can quickly learn whole songs... pure theory learning is much more boring.
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Dec 2008 13:02 Post subject: |
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| inz wrote: | | SpykeZ is right tho |
Not in a way more than a difference in taste. I personally don't like covering Frusciante/RHCPs clean songs on my own guitars - I only do that with my friends USA strat. Those amazing clean bell tones. Ahhh, I love them.
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Dec 2008 13:39 Post subject: |
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just get something cheap is all i can say. your not gonna start playing and think to yourself "damn! my tone is way off" your gonna be frustrated with your fingers more than anything and get annoyed playing the same little pieces of music till you get them right. and you really don't need a guitar with a set of $150+ pickups, that's absurd for a beginner. buy cheap, like nouse has said, when/if you realize that guitar is not your thing.. don't be mad that you have a small fortune in guitar/amp lying in a corner collecting dust.
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Dec 2008 14:08 Post subject: |
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My Les Paul is really expensive, for beginners get yourself a Cheri it's a Fender telecaster copy so it basically looks and sounds like a Telecaster.
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| Posted: Thu, 25th Dec 2008 15:50 Post subject: |
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| Praetori wrote: | | inz wrote: | | SpykeZ is right tho |
Not in a way more than a difference in taste. I personally don't like covering Frusciante/RHCPs clean songs on my own guitars - I only do that with my friends USA strat. Those amazing clean bell tones. Ahhh, I love them. |
if you want a beautiful american made guitar check out carvin
http://www.carvinguitars.com/ |
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| Posted: Sat, 27th Dec 2008 04:04 Post subject: |
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I can play a few songs. I learned some chords when I was young, later in high school I had to learn more. (piano background, never great) . My friends are alot better then me.
I would say learn strumming tech. and chords to get the feel of the songs. I think the singing and playing is the hardest.
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| Posted: Sun, 28th Dec 2008 06:08 Post subject: Re: Learning to play a guitar |
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| tikkietegek wrote: | Any tips? ways to do it?
I know that i should start with an acoustic guitar, but what kind of guitar? and what brand?
Some advice please ! |
Brand doesnt make a difference. Just buy a (not cheap ass) guitar, practice your chords, learn some songs and such and once your fingers are used to plucking and sliding and such (basically, till you develop calluses) move to electric.
If you play acoustic for to long...it does something and you dont know how to hold the note on electric and such.
My dad for example, can play accoustic amazingly. But sounds horrible on electric. |
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