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wawrzul




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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Dec 2008 08:19    Post subject: Post-apocalyptic novels
Hey there. Im looking for good post-apocalyptic novels. I expect it to be dark, sad story like "The Road".
Or maybe someone knows of a book that captures the climax of Mad Max? (either the 1st or the 2nd movie) A P-A book with a muscle car would be great Wink Or maybe there is a book based on Fallout?
Im rather into the post-nuclear theme (nuclear fallout, people in shelters, nuclear winter, radiation, radiation poisoning and sickness etc.rather than plague and that's what i prefer).

I haven't read anything (that wasn't science or work related) since...hell too long. I wanna read something good. As for now i only heard about "The Road" and i think it suits me just fine (although there is no cars or nuclear blasts in the background Wink ). Also the language should be polish or english and nothing else.

Plz advise. Thanks in advance. Out.
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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Dec 2008 08:27    Post subject:
actually 'the road' sounds interesting, might have to pick it up ... only $10 at the bookstore Smile

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Road


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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Dec 2008 08:32    Post subject:
Yep, found that yesterday. Pulitzer's ain't awarded to crap, right? Very Happy

Gotta read it.


Or maybe someone knows of any COMIC that is PA related? It can be dark, it can be a parody or whatever. Just give me nuclear blasts or ashes! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Dec 2008 08:40    Post subject:
btw, why post this in the void?


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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Dec 2008 09:03    Post subject:
I Also wrote it down thnx.

Sounds good, loved fallout Wink so why no book Razz


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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Dec 2008 14:23    Post subject:
Oh boy, you just opened up Pandora's box Very Happy

Cell <- Stephen King's Zombie re imagining.
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Cell is an apocalyptic horror novel published by American author Stephen King in January 2006. The plot concerns a New England artist struggling to reunite with his young son after a mysterious signal broadcast over the global cell-phone network turns masses of his fellow humans into zombies.

Very nice and have a very nice description of the chaos and as always with King's novels very grotesque and disturbing.
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The Stand <- Stephen King's religious apocalypse novel.
Plot
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The Stand is like that. You either love it or hate it, but you can't ignore it. Stephen King's most popular book, according to polls of his fans, is an end-of-the-world scenario: a rapidly mutating flu virus is accidentally released from a U.S. military facility and wipes out 99 and 44/100 percent of the world's population, thus setting the stage for an apocalyptic confrontation between Good and Evil.

"I love to burn things up," King says. "It's the werewolf in me, I guess.... The Stand was particularly fulfilling, because there I got a chance to scrub the whole human race, and man, it was fun! ... Much of the compulsive, driven feeling I had while I worked on The Stand came from the vicarious thrill of imagining an entire entrenched social order destroyed in one stroke."

There is much to admire in The Stand: the vivid thumbnail sketches with which King populates a whole landscape with dozens of believable characters; the deep sense of nostalgia for things left behind; the way it subverts our sense of reality by showing us a world we find familiar, then flipping it over to reveal the darkness underneath. Anyone who wants to know, or claims to know, the heart of the American experience needs to read this book.

Very nice read, its long but very fulfilling, perfectly describes the chaos and horrors within the US from the east -to the west coast and the following struggle for basic survival and a confrontation which leaves you on the edge of your chair. Highly recommended! As with Cell this is disturbing as well since (as with all King's Novel) builds up its characters and dramatically end their life.

I Am Legend <- Forget about the idiotic film adaption. This novel gave George A. Romero the ideas to use Zombies as a predator in modern cinema.
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I Am Legend is a 1954 science fiction/horror novel by Richard Matheson about the last man alive in Los Angeles. It is notable as influential on the developing modern vampire genre as well as the zombie genre, in popularizing the concept of a worldwide apocalypse due to disease, and in exploring the notion of vampirism as a disease. The novel was a success and was adapted to film as The Last Man on Earth in 1964, as The Omega Man in 1971, and again in 2007 as I Am Legend.

This revolves around Newell's madness from burying his wife to be isolated with all the Vampires trying to lure him out every night. I was a a bit skeptical at first seeing as the plot seemed a little tame, but it certainly delivers and put to shame every adaption which has been filmed.

On The Beach
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The story is set in what was then the near future (1963, approximately a year following World War III). The conflict has devastated the northern hemisphere, polluting the atmosphere with nuclear fallout and killing all animal life. While the nuclear bombs were confined to the northern hemisphere, global air currents are slowly carrying the fallout to the southern hemisphere. The only part of the planet still habitable is the far south of the globe, specifically Australia and New Zealand, South Africa, and the southern parts of South America, although all of these areas are slowly succumbing to radiation poisoning as the fallout continues to circulate southwards.

One of the most depressing books I've ever read.
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The book was written in the Cold War Era environment. So many people think that it is about countries and war; others think this story is some anti war story. The reality is that it is a study of people meeting a sure end and how they react.


Now I know some of these might be a little different than you requested but at least those are the ones I've read.


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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Dec 2008 14:29    Post subject:
Thanks Mutantius !

Ill check em out, got a birthday coming up so ill select a few nice one, reviews of I am legend are promising.


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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Dec 2008 14:30    Post subject:
While we're on the subject of Stephen King: The Mist.

Then there's Greg Bears "Blood Music", but there's no nuclear fallout in that one either.


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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Dec 2008 14:37    Post subject:
Uhh gonna pick up Blood Music sounds very promising, oh and The Mist is also very good.


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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Dec 2008 15:00    Post subject:
nouseforaname wrote:
actually 'the road' sounds interesting, might have to pick it up ... only $10 at the bookstore Smile

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Road


From the author of No Country for Old Men? Gotta read this.
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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Dec 2008 16:55    Post subject:
http://www.pamedia.com Good site overall for all post-apocalyptic media, has good reviews etc.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocalyptic_and_post-apocalyptic_fiction Describes the most well-known works of the genre, check the 'See also' section as well for subgenres.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_apocalyptic_and_post-apocalyptic_fiction Pretty comprehensive list of all PA media, not just books.


And I'm no comic expert by any means, but check The Walking Dead, it's a zombie apocalypse instead of nuclear one, but pretty damn good nonetheless.

Edit: Strange you haven't heard of The Road, VR, they're making it into a movie with Viggo Mortensen (and not a small movie, either). http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0898367/ Smile
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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Dec 2008 17:02    Post subject:
I just started reading 1984 again. Amazing book. Not post-apocalyptic per say but it deals with massive world change.


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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Dec 2008 17:57    Post subject:
Kazuo Ishiguro - Never Let Me Go , not quite post apocalyptic , but still interesting
John Wyndham - The Day of The Triffids

and I Am Legend by Richard Matheson, the book is way way better than any movie

i dunno , i do prefer stuff like The Road rather than some other books that deal with mutation and shit like that (even though i hear that there are a couple of PKD books that are rather interesting on the subject) ah and not to mention the rise of some dominant species .

ah and

The Gone-Away World by Nick Harkaway ,sound's interesting too


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PostPosted: Tue, 30th Dec 2008 23:17    Post subject:
Not quite the same but the Cyber-Punk genre sounds right up your alley.

Snowcrash
Headcrash

Any other books by william gibson. Etc...


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PostPosted: Wed, 31st Dec 2008 08:17    Post subject:
Lol, i've printed the whole thread and marked the books, then dropped it on my gf desk Wink hope she gets the hint haha. thnx guys.

PS, never really read these kind of books, normally i read tom clancy, bourne ident. etc so thats why i dont know anything about it Very Happy


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PostPosted: Wed, 31st Dec 2008 12:25    Post subject:
zipfero wrote:
I just started reading 1984 again. Amazing book. Not post-apocalyptic per say but it deals with massive world change.


Wonderful book and terrifying aswell, I highly recommende the film adaption which certainly skips some things but delivers in its own way.


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PostPosted: Wed, 31st Dec 2008 15:21    Post subject:
read this

Aldiss, Brian - Greybeard
Aldiss, Brian - Hothouse
Anderson, Poul - Vault of the Ages
Atwood, Margaret - Oryx and Crake
Atwood, Margaret - The Handmaid's Tale
Ballard, JG - The Drowned World
BeauSeigneur, James - Christ Clone Series
Brackett, Leigh - The Long Tomorrow
Brin, David - The Postman
Brunner, John - The Sheep Look Up
Budrys, Algis - Burning World
Budrys, Algis - Some Will Not Die
Butler, Octavia - Parable of the Sower
Butler, Octavia - Parable of the Talents
Card, Orson Scott - The Folk of the Fringe
Christopher, John - The Death of Grass (AKA No Blade of Grass)
Crace, Jim - The Pesthouse
Crowley, John - Engine Summer
Dick, Philip K - Dr Bloodmoney or How We Got Along After the Bomb
Dickson, Gordon - Wolf and Iron
Disch, Thomas - The Genocides
DuPrau, Jeanne - The City of Ember
Florman, Samuel - The Aftermath
Frank, Pat - Alas, Babylon
Galouye, Daniel - Dark Universe
Goonan, Kathleen Ann - Nanotech Series
Herbert, Frank - The White Plague
Hoban, Russell - Riddley Walker
Huxley, Aldous - Ape and Essence
Kearny, Cresson - (Non Fiction) Nuclear War Survival Skills
Kornbluth, CM - The Syndic
Laumer, Keith - Catastrophe Planet
Leiber, Fritz - Gather, Darkness!
London, Jack - The Scarlett Plague
Matheson, Richard - I Am Legend
McCammon, Robert - Swan Song
McCarthy, Cormac - The Road
McDevitt, Jack - Eternity Road
McIntyre, Vonda - Dreamsnake
Merle, Robert - Malevil (Non English)
Merril, Judith - Shadow on the Hearth
Miller, Walter - St Leibowitz and the Wild Horse Woman
Miller, Walter - A Canticle for Leibowitz
Niven, Larry - Lucifer's Hammer
Norton, Andre - Daybreak 2250 AD
Norton, Andre - No Night Without Stars
O'Brein, Robert - Z for Zachariah
Pangborn, Edgar - Davy
Sheffield, Charles - Aftermath 1 - Aftermath
Sheffield, Charles - Aftermath 2 - Starfire
Shiel, MP - The Purple Cloud
Shelley, Mary - The Last Man
Shute, Nevil - On the Beach
Simak, Clifford - Cemetary World
Smith, Mitchell - Snowfall Series
Stewart, George R - Earth Abides
Stirling, SM - Change Series
Tucker, Wilson - The Long Loud Silence
Tucker, Wilson - The Year of The Quiet Sun
Varley, John - Millennium
Wilhelm, Kate - Where Late the Sweet Birds Sang
Williams, Walter - The Rift
Wylie, Philp & Balmer, Edwin - When Worlds Collide
Wylie, Philp & Balmer, Edwin - After Worlds Collide
Wyndham, John - The Chrysalids
Zelazny, Roger - Damnation Alley


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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Jan 2009 11:22    Post subject:
Mutantius, PoorLeno - thanks for the info.

I gotta try out I Am Legend as i loved both movies (Omega Man and IAL with W. Smith). Also On The Beach must be great (the movie is awesome but EXTREMELY sad and depressing).

Accidently i got into a gamebook - Freeway Warrior. Mad Max on paper Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Jan 2009 17:25    Post subject:
Mutantius wrote:
zipfero wrote:
I just started reading 1984 again. Amazing book. Not post-apocalyptic per say but it deals with massive world change.


Wonderful book and terrifying aswell, I highly recommende the film adaption which certainly skips some things but delivers in its own way.



I just got fraiche hooked on it as well. Gonna pick up 1985 after if I can find it Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Jan 2009 18:24    Post subject:
seriously people still read books?
bring on the movie adaptation , but if only they were true to the novel origins
I am legend movie is a totally different story than the novel
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PostPosted: Fri, 2nd Jan 2009 20:53    Post subject:
FireMaster wrote:
seriously people still read books?


Sure, it's just not as popular as other forms of entertainment since it actually takes an effort and makes you think. Something the majority of people don't want to do, being the simpletons they are.. Their loss, since whenever a novel is made into a movie, the book is better 99% of the time.
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PostPosted: Sat, 3rd Jan 2009 02:24    Post subject:
prefixing a sentence with "seriously" doesn't necessarily make it serious Wink
go easy on us simpletons, mister.

and no, you can't say that books make you think more than movies, unless you got some statistics handy that prove that a bigger percent of movies are stupid, compared to books.
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PostPosted: Sat, 3rd Jan 2009 04:05    Post subject:
zipfero wrote:
Mutantius wrote:
zipfero wrote:
I just started reading 1984 again. Amazing book. Not post-apocalyptic per say but it deals with massive world change.


Wonderful book and terrifying aswell, I highly recommende the film adaption which certainly skips some things but delivers in its own way.



I just got fraiche hooked on it as well. Gonna pick up 1985 after if I can find it Very Happy


uhhh never got around to read it, tho prepare yourself Anthony Burgess was known for being one of the angriest writers evar! Wink


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PostPosted: Sat, 3rd Jan 2009 06:18    Post subject:
Mutantius wrote:
zipfero wrote:
Mutantius wrote:


Wonderful book and terrifying aswell, I highly recommende the film adaption which certainly skips some things but delivers in its own way.



I just got fraiche hooked on it as well. Gonna pick up 1985 after if I can find it Very Happy


uhhh never got around to read it, tho prepare yourself Anthony Burgess was known for being one of the angriest writers evar! Wink


Well, my dad mumbles about it regularly so it can't be too bad. He only reads Tor Nørretranders and stuff like that and that shit is heavy.


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PostPosted: Sat, 3rd Jan 2009 08:59    Post subject:
FireMaster wrote:
I am legend movie is a totally different story than the novel

Then watch The Omega Man (with Heston). I Am Legend is totally different.

And about reading books...it's a different experience than watching movies because you actually use your imagination instead of just having the tv/lcd/crt do it for you and even imitate proper sounds.
Watching movies is definitely easier than reading books. It's also a faster way of hearing a story/learning a lesson.

Im not a fan of reading books but if there is anything interesting to read i won't hesitate. There are many post-apocalyptic books that i didn't read, and not many P-A movies that i haven't seen so there you go.
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PostPosted: Sat, 3rd Jan 2009 09:05    Post subject:
World War Z
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oh, and I guess Warhammer 40k could count? Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sat, 3rd Jan 2009 16:12    Post subject:
wawrzul wrote:
Then watch The Omega Man (with Heston). I Am Legend is totally different.

why not the first filmed version of the book, last man on earth, with vincent price?
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PostPosted: Sat, 3rd Jan 2009 16:52    Post subject:
lhzr wrote:
wawrzul wrote:
Then watch The Omega Man (with Heston). I Am Legend is totally different.

why not the first filmed version of the book, last man on earth, with vincent price?



Ahh, you have smited him with your superior movie knowledge!
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PostPosted: Sat, 3rd Jan 2009 17:37    Post subject:
hopefully!
but that wasn't the point,heh. i was asking, because i haven't seen any of them Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 5th Jan 2009 12:16    Post subject:
tainted4ever wrote:
World War Z
Zombie Survival Guide

oh, and I guess Warhammer 40k could count? Very Happy


Yes! WWZ and ZSG are already ordered and in "to be read" queue. And W40K? Dunno. I know the world, played the RTS (Dawn Of War and add-ons, Mark Of Chaos) but never thought of reading any books. Recommendations?

lhzr wrote:
wawrzul wrote:
Then watch The Omega Man (with Heston). I Am Legend is totally different.

why not the first filmed version of the book, last man on earth, with vincent price?

Damn, totally forgot that movie. Price is more convincing as a doctor (than Heston or Smith) that he is, also i didn't like the "comic-ness" and humour in The Omega Man (especially in the beginning) - it's a P-A film FFS. But humour could be also an upside - depends on what you expect.

Anyway, thanks for pointing that out Smile
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