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Posted: Fri, 29th Feb 2008 21:58 Post subject: Note to the elite from RLD, VTY, RZR, FLT and the rest :) |
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You guys are tarnishing the scene with all those proper, faulty release, and proper, real proper and various crack fixes…
Yes I know that protection got harder and harder with VM, but c’mon what’s the point of rushing a faulty release ultimately it will ruin your reputation, I can remember a time when on this board RLD was being worshipped… Back then they were an – almost – flawless groups ruling and taking the time to test and release their cracks… Remember those SF games, sure it took weeks / months but RLD properly reversed the VM’ed functions and gave us some clean releases… and now it’s RLD fucked up again… RLD go home … etc The old timers will surely remember REFLUX (RLX) that were always mocked because of their crappy release … : )
Now I don’t even trust scene groups anymore… Of course all the big games gets prospered, but when it comes to some less popular titles sometimes the crack that are done are simply bad, I can remember some titles where I leeched the No CD patch and the game began to behave quite differently from the original…
So I leech clones whenever I want to check a game out, because clone can’t deceive you …. Also clone you can later transform it in a NO CD version using a patch… Also clone are ecological, you don’t need to burn, so you don’t use those DVDR’s that need so many petrol to manufacture and to import from the People’s Republic
Also groups hardly do patches ( except maybe Vitalty), so sad, I can remember the old days when a patch would appear of 3DGAMERS or Patchscrolls then within a couple of hours it would be out by RZR, PSG, CLS or PDM. Yes I forgot HBD but they didn’t do patches, lazy euro bastards
Yes you’re all going to say, you’re just a lamer that leeches… shut the fuck up and rest the work group does… Sure I am a lamer, I’m now an older guy, my college years are over and I’m no longer elite, however I feel like there are so many talent wasted, I mean when you’ve worked so hard a crack, how hard is it to get a couple of tester to pass at least level 1… I mean back then it was hell for a group to get testers when we all were on 28.8 paying by the minute… but now with everyone with Cable / DSL and fiber in quite many countries…
Groups are competent… but they are negligent… and it’s something I can’t understand.
I can remember all those dudes from Finland, Sweden and all those Nordic countries with massive bandwidth and nothing to do with their time except test games Look NFORCE the Quality Control is done here... it took 2 hours to find out that Turning Point from RLD was bad (wayyy before it was nuked officially) and same for Assassin's Creed...
Also how childish is it to ALWAYS release FULL package… I mean c’mon… Can’t you fucking do a PPF Patch (yes you can… especially VTY as theirs EXE as smaller with Securom section removed) or a simple crack fix!!! I mean except to please your affils and give them a nice fat pre, I don’t exactly see any reason to do that… Actually once the Clone is out I don’t even see the point to re release the same image (in a different format) with “just” 5-10 meg extra data (cracked exe)… Just release a nice exe fix with your intro wrapped in it if you’re egotistic : )
Clearly everyone here rather wait for 6-12 extra hours and gets a flawless releases… It would clarify things … as usual most nukers don’t understand shit and nuke based on politics but rarely because they have a clue - cf. VTY ban… which is not exactly justified… yes they seems to be arrogant pricks but their Quality Control seems a bit better than the other… –
++ NO CARRIER
(an old timer live the retirement house and who actually buys games when they are GOOD and runs on his old P4 3Ghz 2GB RAM with 6800 GT AGP and of course USR HST for high speed BBS access because old timers need to feed their family don’t buy new hardware every six months because they have new priorities in life like taking care of their family! – something to remember from Crysis coders which ran only on Geek Machine… Geeks who can’t shell out the 49.99 for the game because they spent it two weeks ago on the 8800 GT and the Core Quad)
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Posted: Fri, 29th Feb 2008 23:00 Post subject: |
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meh, just stick to clones
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Posted: Sat, 1st Mar 2008 05:22 Post subject: |
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Let's see you try to reverse a VM. It's not so fucking simple any more.
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Posted: Sat, 1st Mar 2008 05:23 Post subject: |
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tainted4ever wrote: | Let's see you try to reverse a VM. It's not so fucking simple any more. |
That's not what the criticism is about, it's the "race" that causes groups to prematurely release without proper testing and checking.
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Posted: Sat, 1st Mar 2008 06:14 Post subject: |
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Scyphe wrote: | tainted4ever wrote: | Let's see you try to reverse a VM. It's not so fucking simple any more. |
That's not what the criticism is about, it's the "race" that causes groups to prematurely release without proper testing and checking. |
Like I said, its not simple. There are a shitload of checks that are invisible to the cracker and tester computers that only come out when the wider user base (p2p) gets their hold of the game. Protections are more complex and tricky these days, and that's that. Besides, its free. Don't bitch about it.
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Posted: Sat, 1st Mar 2008 07:20 Post subject: |
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tainted4ever wrote: | Scyphe wrote: | tainted4ever wrote: | Let's see you try to reverse a VM. It's not so fucking simple any more. |
That's not what the criticism is about, it's the "race" that causes groups to prematurely release without proper testing and checking. |
Like I said, its not simple. There are a shitload of checks that are invisible to the cracker and tester computers that only come out when the wider user base (p2p) gets their hold of the game. Protections are more complex and tricky these days, and that's that. Besides, its free. Don't bitch about it. |
Sorry, I don't really give a shit if it's free or not, if it's difficult or not, the "scene" is a joke, quality is a distant memory and the main cause for the many nukes and propers these days are because groups prematurely ejects their work to be first. Simple as that, and that was the main concern in this thread.
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Posted: Sat, 1st Mar 2008 07:43 Post subject: |
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The scene doesn't give a shit about this site or you. Everyone on this site complaining about the scene, or even promoting is honestly full of shit and so stupid its rediculous. It's not about pleasing you, or producing shit that you can actually use.
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Posted: Sat, 1st Mar 2008 08:10 Post subject: |
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Scyphe wrote: | tainted4ever wrote: | Scyphe wrote: |
That's not what the criticism is about, it's the "race" that causes groups to prematurely release without proper testing and checking. |
Like I said, its not simple. There are a shitload of checks that are invisible to the cracker and tester computers that only come out when the wider user base (p2p) gets their hold of the game. Protections are more complex and tricky these days, and that's that. Besides, its free. Don't bitch about it. |
Sorry, I don't really give a shit if it's free or not, if it's difficult or not, the "scene" is a joke, quality is a distant memory and the main cause for the many nukes and propers these days are because groups prematurely ejects their work to be first. Simple as that, and that was the main concern in this thread. |
There at least we agree.
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Posted: Sat, 1st Mar 2008 08:21 Post subject: |
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Mchart wrote: | The scene doesn't give a shit about this site or you. Everyone on this site complaining about the scene, or even promoting is honestly full of shit and so stupid its rediculous. It's not about pleasing you, or producing shit that you can actually use. |
Worst is, when kiddies come here to plead people to give Vitality a chance... 
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Posted: Sat, 1st Mar 2008 12:18 Post subject: Re: Note to the elite from RLD, VTY, RZR, FLT and the rest : |
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Weedo wrote: | twingo wrote: | Also clone are ecological, you don’t need to burn, so you don’t use those DVDR’s that need so many petrol to manufacture and to import from the People’s Republic
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That's nonsense because you can also mount cracked releases. |
I was about to comment on that one... I haven't burned a single cracked release on CD/DVD in order to play it. Ever. I have done it for backup (burnt the RAR's on CD/DVD). So you're talking bullshit. Hell this entire thread is bullshit.
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Posted: Sat, 1st Mar 2008 13:20 Post subject: Re: Note to the elite from RLD, VTY, RZR, FLT and the rest : |
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Posted: Tue, 26th Aug 2008 13:01 Post subject: |
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99% of the old 'win2k bad cracks' were due to the cracker dumping / rebuilding on xp or higher, where one particular import forwarded to another (think it was SetLastError), a simple patch to fix the import table resulted in the exe working in win2k... but yes, as stated, this issue (and many others) were well known, yet the crackers didn't care or lacked the skill to do the fix (because they used imprec etc to do the import rebuilding)...
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Posted: Tue, 11th Nov 2008 15:15 Post subject: |
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If it's free don't bitch about it
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Posted: Mon, 26th Jan 2009 06:39 Post subject: |
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DABhandUK wrote: | Its about sharing internally with others, it was never to be globalised like this in the first place.
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That is the biggest load of crap. Groups are purely motivated by ego, by winning the race. Internally is a load of crap, thats why they've always had their "top sites" (lol) to pre their stuff too. These same sites that share group affils and used to have 250+ membership basis (real internal!), where did they think everything was going to go? Their NFO's used to contain contact details for crying out loud.
Razor used to sell t-shirts and 10 year anniversay cd's or what ever it was. Nothing internal about it, its all ego (which also made it fun).
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Posted: Wed, 4th Mar 2009 01:38 Post subject: |
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death^angel wrote: | DABhandUK wrote: | Its about sharing internally with others, it was never to be globalised like this in the first place.
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That is the biggest load of crap. Groups are purely motivated by ego, by winning the race. Internally is a load of crap, thats why they've always had their "top sites" (lol) to pre their stuff too. These same sites that share group affils and used to have 250+ membership basis (real internal!), where did they think everything was going to go? Their NFO's used to contain contact details for crying out loud.
Razor used to sell t-shirts and 10 year anniversay cd's or what ever it was. Nothing internal about it, its all ego (which also made it fun). |
Never noticed your reply, did you actually read and understand the sentence you quoted.
The days of the BBS etc are a long time ago granted, where groups shared with each other, it was very very rare for outsiders to gain access to these.
Then a few sprung up and decided to sell accounts to certain individuals, then market stalls etc started selling amiga images and so forth again not in the scale as of today. It was still mostly hush hush and mostly internal.
It wasnt until the last few years that it went downhill, most of the old timers have moved on either bored of it all or even bored with the kids coming in. Thats where the ego is from the newer kids and its went downhill from there.
Now its so badly globalized that millions of little fuck whit kids sit and download away and sit and complain about this protection and that protection, the worse part they dont even want to admit they are little thieves and come up with years old excuses. And dont even start on the kids who think its cool to have l337 speak names and talk like they are the big cheese when they cant even comprehend what goes into the scene whatsoever.
Again quoting is fun, but quickly quoting a sentence without understanding what is said or decapitate from another previous sentence which would have helped you understand it, so something to think about next time . But as I said the idea of warez in the first place was internal sharing its only the last few years as said its taken a u-turn and is now deemed by the acne broadband kiddies that its all about getting stuff for free without paying, but with the excuses of course.
The Idiots and they wonder why the quality of PC gaming has taken a steady downfall the last couple of years in terms of quality and compatibility, which developer would like to design and get their games published on the most warez'd gaming platform?
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Posted: Wed, 4th Mar 2009 08:02 Post subject: |
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AntonVeen2 wrote: | If it's free don't bitch about it |
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Posted: Wed, 4th Mar 2009 10:34 Post subject: |
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Glottis wrote: | AntonVeen2 wrote: | If it's free don't bitch about it |
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No. If it's free and bad, feel free to bitch about it.
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