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Phluxed
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 Posted: Sun, 18th Jan 2009 05:23 Post subject: |
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Perhaps because they actually make decent games.
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Jan 2009 07:06 Post subject: |
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Translation: Make them suffer so they'll be forced to buy the game.
Gustave the Steel
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Jan 2009 10:55 Post subject: |
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valve have always had a more down to earth approach regarding the way they do business. I mean how many other companys can you email the CEO and if its a reasonable question the guy personally answers you. I emailed the guy with an engineering question related to software, and where it crosses over into what i do in my daily job and he replied, not only that he got another member of valve to help me out. These days i dont really pirate games, i have a little more of a refined taste, and i'm not desperate to try every game out there. It happens to alot of us as we get older you figure out what you like and go with that.
But valve get the whole value concept, theyre one of the only comanies these days that treat us like a customer and not a cash grab.
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Jan 2009 13:22 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Jan 2009 15:09 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Jan 2009 15:27 Post subject: |
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I think other developers are just as reasonable, but most are owned by big publishers. Valve is free to say and do what is on their minds but DICE for example, who also had a great impact on the online shooter market, are 'EA slaves' who make priced expansion packs because their boss (EA) says so, not because they want to rip off their fans.
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Sin317
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Jan 2009 20:30 Post subject: |
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yeah valve doesnt treats as cash grabs .. oh wait , THEY DO ... selling games for more (often much more) then game cost in local store ...
1$=1€ anyone ?
fuck valve.
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Jan 2009 20:33 Post subject: |
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| Sin317 wrote: | yeah valve doesnt treats as cash grabs .. oh wait , THEY DO ... selling games for more (often much more) then game cost in local store ...
1$=1€ anyone ?
fuck valve. |
+1,i wanna pay less for my games..i'm european/spanish,so paying dolars means LESS in € X3..too bad this changed,so yeah,FUCK VALVE
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CraweN
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Jan 2009 20:52 Post subject: |
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| Sin317 wrote: | yeah valve doesnt treats as cash grabs .. oh wait , THEY DO ... selling games for more (often much more) then game cost in local store ...
1$=1€ anyone ?
fuck valve. |
Well to valves defense, it most likely isn't them that set the prices on steam.
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Jan 2009 21:00 Post subject: |
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| CraweN wrote: | | Sin317 wrote: | yeah valve doesnt treats as cash grabs .. oh wait , THEY DO ... selling games for more (often much more) then game cost in local store ...
1$=1€ anyone ?
fuck valve. |
Well to valves defense, it most likely isn't them that set the prices on steam. |
They do for their own games, which are also overprices for europeans. I do love Valve though.
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Jan 2009 21:38 Post subject: |
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Steam games are overpriced and steam just sucks.
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WaldoJ
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Jan 2009 22:24 Post subject: |
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| Freakness wrote: | | Steam games are overpriced and steam just sucks. |
steam is pwn. you can play off line. you dun need online at all.  and you have a catalogue of bazillion games in a 800kb file 
| Sin317 wrote: | | I win, you lose. Or Go fuck yourself. |
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Jan 2009 23:07 Post subject: |
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I can catalog the games myself, thank you. I use Directory Lister for this. If they would make bugless games that dont have Steam, cost 3 times less and have simple one time activation, then maybe maybe I would buy them. But now pirating them is a lot better choice.
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| Posted: Sun, 18th Jan 2009 23:35 Post subject: |
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| Freakness wrote: | | But now pirating them is a lot better choice. |
Uh, no it's not. As you can see from L4D pirating online steam games is a bitch.
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Jan 2009 00:24 Post subject: |
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"We take all of our games day-and-date to Russia," Holtman says of Valve. "The reason people pirated things in Russia," he explains, "is because Russians are reading magazines and watching television -- they say 'Man, I want to play that game so bad,' but the publishers respond 'you can play that game in six months...maybe.' "
"We found that our piracy rates dropped off significantly," Holtman says, explaining that Valve makes sure their games are on the shelves in Moscow and St. Petersberg, in Russian, when they release it to North America and Western Europe.
There are, concludes Holtman, "tons of undiscovered customers," because publishers look very narrowly at the Western market.
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And WE HAVE A WINNER.
Seriously, is there really just the handful of people realizing this? Are these people so disconnected from reality that a simple statement like this can come over as some kind of holy revelation? I can't remember the times when i was like: Man i want to buy this game. Then i called the shop only to get told, that the game will be in my country in a few months.. that just a few days before official release date.
We are living in the age of digital distribution. I can stay connected with dozens of people from all around the world all day long. I can download and watch episodes of my favorite series minutes after it was aired in television. (Not that its any more legal than software piracy, then again.. they will eventually realize that they can't stop information and will capitalize on it instead of fighting the windmill) I can play cards against people from around the world, take their money or lose mine.
We are living in world country here on the net. Theres no geographical borders, no oceans to separate us. The sooner those stupid business fags realize this, the sooner they will get rid of the problem that they call piracy.
As the guy said: theres no pirates, just underserved customers.
Bottomline: viva la revolución. Down with boxed products. Let the digital age take over.
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| Posted: Mon, 19th Jan 2009 00:40 Post subject: |
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As for people bashing valve and steam. Just go on.. im sure you can show dozens of publishers that have better service, and you have one for every drop of water in the oceans that care for digital distribution.
When we talk about digial distribution, i can only name like 4 players, 4 and a half actually.
Direct2Drive - if they exist, but patching their games was a nightmare afaik, never used them because of the negative user reviews.
GamersGate - only bought sword of the stars from them, but for that i never had any problems. They dont force you to use their distribution software to play.
Steam - by now it has too many community features for my taste, but overall i consider their software to be decent. The primary source i use for buying games.
Impulse - Little less functional than steam, but still gets the job done. Not that many cool games, but it has the stardock published stuff, and some of it is quite cool as well. From what i know, Impulse is not required to play stardock software, so its kind of DRM free, like gamersgate and sots.
EA Downloader - had the bad luck of running into this one with one of the BF games. I think its a step in the right direction for EA, but their approach was way too.. well.. retail distribution like, plus they didnt even get it right.. it was a mess.
Sure digital distribution services are popping up left n right, but when it comes to big titles, i dont think theres anyone else out there that we could call a serious player. Now if you tell me, that from the above list steam is the black sheep, then you are a clueless f*g in my opinion.
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