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tywyn
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 Posted: Mon, 2nd Mar 2009 22:52 Post subject: Need more reasons to upgrade PC |
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I've been thinking for a while of upgrading the PC, but when I look around at what's available and upcoming there is very little other than dumbed down console ports due to development costs and piracy. There doesn't seem to be anything original on PC or console any longer, just a rehash of the same thing over and over and over. So I'm asking myself why not spend the £600 on a PS3/Xbox360 and a 32"" LCD TV?
I know that FPS is shit on a console, but games such as GTA and sports titles seem to work better on them. I'm completely and utterly bored of WoW and there isn't any better MMORPG on the horizon, and I'm not an RTS fan.
The PC I have now does everything I want apart from running the newest games, it runs a 6800GT so the whole base unit needs replacing. I can't remember the last time I bought a single player game for the PC, but I occasionally buy MP games and paid for WoW for 3 years, but paying £50 for a console game which may last a month would be a shock, although I don't mind paying £20 after a few months. I'm really struggling atm for enough reasons to spend the cash on a PC
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| Posted: Mon, 2nd Mar 2009 23:01 Post subject: |
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Then spend it on a console? If you can't wait for sc2/d3/rage/doom4/hl2:ep3, then trash is mostly what you're going to see. The platform with the most purely original games is the DS so hit that first. But I don't think that's what you mean.
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| Posted: Mon, 2nd Mar 2009 23:36 Post subject: |
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Go flashed 360 + beamer, best investment a gamer can make.
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tywyn
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| Posted: Tue, 3rd Mar 2009 00:16 Post subject: |
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Wouldn't flashing an Xbox 360 get me banned from XBox live. I've been out of the console loop for such a long time that I really don't know? I have a chipped PS2 which is never used and is a monitor stand atm, but things have moved on since then.
I'm surprised, I thought most of you would be die-hard PC fans (which I am at heart) but atm I really can't see any reason to invest in one so it's looking like an XBox360 + LCD TV. The beamer is a good idea I never thought of that, but I'd probably have to get a pull down screen as well.
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| Posted: Tue, 3rd Mar 2009 00:46 Post subject: |
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honestly, i just like playing games on pc cause i've already got a nice big fat setup and a comfy home office, plus i NEED to upgrade it regularly for work reasons. if it wasn't for that, i wouldn't bother with pc gaming anymore in times like these.
go with a decent lcd screen + flashed x360, maybe wii or ps3, depending on your taste in games and budget.
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| Posted: Tue, 3rd Mar 2009 01:46 Post subject: |
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I have been having the same thoughts as you tywyn. I would like to upgrade to the Core i7 with a new motherboard, RAM and gfx card.. but im finding it hard to justify the cost with the amount of good quality games that are being released.
If i were you i would take everyones advice here and get a 360 and flash it.
btw have you looked at the prices for 360 games recently? their not as much as you think.
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| Posted: Tue, 3rd Mar 2009 02:33 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 3rd Mar 2009 03:32 Post subject: |
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new x360s work fine.
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| Posted: Tue, 3rd Mar 2009 04:46 Post subject: |
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Ill always take the PC for gaming over console anyday. When Im in front of a TV, Ill watch tv or a movie instead. Im more a mouse/keyboard person. GTA 4 rocks even on a PC. So does Fallout 3. So does Vampyre Story. Theyre are quite a few games on the pC. I tend to get to play maybe 5 PC games a year- and beat..but those 5 are usually the best of bunch. I also enjoy surfing, playing music on the pc - so I spend most of time there. Using a 8800GT.
You will need to upgrade if you have a 6800 card. The moment my PC could not run Bioshock, I went and built a new one. Had to play the game..on the PC..
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| Posted: Tue, 3rd Mar 2009 05:06 Post subject: |
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^^ yeah, but do you have a console to compare with?
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| Posted: Tue, 3rd Mar 2009 06:33 Post subject: |
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I learned about 2 years ago that upgrading my PC in preparation for games is a total waste of money. Instead I've managed to actually not give a damn and leave my PC as is with only a minor graphics card update. With that alone it's lasted me a LONG time and It really doesn't bother me anymore not having the "Cutting Edge" hardware. If it works it works, just keep your monitor at a reasonable size.
I thing those upgrading their PC's incrementally every couple months for single digit % increases in performance are wasting money.
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| Posted: Tue, 3rd Mar 2009 08:40 Post subject: |
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Well it's obvious OP already made up his opinion, so he just wanted more similar minded people to agree with him. But I'll tell what I did because I was in a similar situation.
I was also planning on getting a 360 for a long time, but before doing that I upgraded my PC, which set back my 360 purchase quiet a bit. Why did I do it you might wonder? Well it's pretty simple, you see, almost all the major games that are available on 360 are also on PC, and PC versions are all superior (with a few exceptions, like Saints Row 2 or Just Cause).
FireMaster mentioned the lack of exclusives on PC, well x360 doesn't have that many either. Multiplatform gaming rules nowadays, and PC ends up with the best version of all platforms. And last time I checked upcoming exclusive list xbox doesn't have anything even remotely close to big PC titles such as Diablo3 or StarCraft2.
And here some rhetorical questions:
Would you rather play Fallout3 in low res 30fps without a possibility of mods, or in 1920x1200 with 8xAA 16xAF at 60+fps, mouse+keyboard and tons of mods?
Would you rather play TF2 in low res without any user made maps or tons of Valve released updates on PC?
Would you rather play CoD4 and pay for lousy 4 map DLC or play on pc with mouse+kb, get these 4 maps for free on top of 1000s user maps and awesome mods?
I can go on and on...
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| Posted: Tue, 3rd Mar 2009 09:05 Post subject: |
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I would of course choose a PC version of GTA4 (and I did). PC version is just so much better: better looking colors, high textures, even low settings produce higher quality than that of 360 (confirmed by rockstar), 32 player multiplayer is a blast, so is mouse aim. You are right about DLC thou, you can't play it on the PC (yet).
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| Posted: Tue, 3rd Mar 2009 12:16 Post subject: |
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Now would be a total waste of a PC upgrade. Most people buy a new PC in prepearation of new games, you should never do that. I'd advise going for an Xbox now, and maybe a new PC at the end of the year when the best games will be released. Never upgrade your PC because you would like to play a game which will be potentially good. Just wait untill some games are released you really 'need' to play, and then do an upgrade. What games would justify an upgrade at this time, except maybe E:TW if you're an RTS fan?
PS. the added advantage of teh Xbox is HD capabilities. Just buy an external HDD and you'll love every show and movie on that LCD screen.
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| Posted: Tue, 3rd Mar 2009 13:05 Post subject: |
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| Glottis wrote: | Well it's obvious OP already made up his opinion, so he just wanted more similar minded people to agree with him. But I'll tell what I did because I was in a similar situation.
I was also planning on getting a 360 for a long time, but before doing that I upgraded my PC, which set back my 360 purchase quiet a bit. Why did I do it you might wonder? Well it's pretty simple, you see, almost all the major games that are available on 360 are also on PC, and PC versions are all superior (with a few exceptions, like Saints Row 2 or Just Cause).
FireMaster mentioned the lack of exclusives on PC, well x360 doesn't have that many either. Multiplatform gaming rules nowadays, and PC ends up with the best version of all platforms. And last time I checked upcoming exclusive list xbox doesn't have anything even remotely close to big PC titles such as Diablo3 or StarCraft2.
And here some rhetorical questions:
Would you rather play Fallout3 in low res 30fps without a possibility of mods, or in 1920x1200 with 8xAA 16xAF at 60+fps, mouse+keyboard and tons of mods?
Would you rather play TF2 in low res without any user made maps or tons of Valve released updates on PC?
Would you rather play CoD4 and pay for lousy 4 map DLC or play on pc with mouse+kb, get these 4 maps for free on top of 1000s user maps and awesome mods?
I can go on and on... |
So you would you rather spend 700+ euro's on a high end gaming rig (that would last for about 2 years), or €170,- for a console? |
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| Posted: Tue, 3rd Mar 2009 14:03 Post subject: Re: Need more reasons to upgrade PC |
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| tywyn wrote: | I've been thinking for a while of upgrading the PC, but when I look around at what's available and upcoming there is very little other than dumbed down console ports due to development costs and piracy. There doesn't seem to be anything original on PC or console any longer, just a rehash of the same thing over and over and over. So I'm asking myself why not spend the £600 on a PS3/Xbox360 and a 32"" LCD TV?
I know that FPS is shit on a console, but games such as GTA and sports titles seem to work better on them. I'm completely and utterly bored of WoW and there isn't any better MMORPG on the horizon, and I'm not an RTS fan.
The PC I have now does everything I want apart from running the newest games, it runs a 6800GT so the whole base unit needs replacing. I can't remember the last time I bought a single player game for the PC, but I occasionally buy MP games and paid for WoW for 3 years, but paying £50 for a console game which may last a month would be a shock, although I don't mind paying £20 after a few months. I'm really struggling atm for enough reasons to spend the cash on a PC |
This is why you should invest in a computer : http://adrianwerner.wordpress.com/games-of-2009/ |
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| Posted: Tue, 3rd Mar 2009 16:19 Post subject: Re: Need more reasons to upgrade PC |
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I remember looking at last years list and being very impressed. I upgraded to what i have now but if i look back, a lot of the games, probably most of them actually were pretty crap or multi-platform.
I'm really annoyed at PC gaming.
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| Posted: Tue, 3rd Mar 2009 17:21 Post subject: Re: Need more reasons to upgrade PC |
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| Newty182 wrote: | I remember looking at last years list and being very impressed. I upgraded to what i have now but if i look back, a lot of the games, probably most of them actually were pretty crap or multi-platform.
I'm really annoyed at PC gaming. |
It's a risky business and few companies have the money or balls to guarantee a hit no matter what. Hence the wait for blizz/id/valve/occasional EA game/occasional brain fart from sid meire or will wright or lord british. it just sucks atm cause the usual breakout games like crysis and hellgate london and tabula rasa didn't pull it off. heck even ut3 and spore didn't make waves.
of course on the other hand, i'm sure people will list on request all the games they loved.
EDIT: wow that is a serious gaming rig you've got. I can see why you're annoyed.
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tywyn
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| Posted: Wed, 4th Mar 2009 01:57 Post subject: |
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Thanks for all your input guys, and after some thinking I have enough reasons and have decided to go for the PC, although the price of a decent GFX card is way too high.
1. I will want to play upcoming games such as Arma 2, OPF2 and BF1943 online so getting my xbox live account and the hardware code on my xbox banned is out of the question.
2. I spend most of my free time in front of the PC and hardly watch TV, I've got a 32" CRT in another room which I've used a handful of times in five years and if I do watch TV it's on a 14" portable next to my monitor or streams on my 22" monitor.
3. I prefer the control of a mouse and keyboard in FPS and I think I'll regret it in future if I buy a console and TV and then have to save for a while to get the cash for a PC.
4. Glottis you're right about the mods and addons, that was part of the reason I played Wow for so long, the addons improved the game significantly, this is also true of many other games.
5. Upgrading in future won't be as expensive as this time as I have to replace the whole box (apart from 1 of my HDD's), in future I will upgrade a few components at a time.
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