Future of Internal Bootable Media.. PCI-E SSDs
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thudo




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PostPosted: Fri, 6th Mar 2009 15:51    Post subject: Future of Internal Bootable Media.. PCI-E SSDs
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Here's a little something OCZ Technology cooked up just for CeBIT: a PCIe enclosure that'll contain 1TB worth of SSD storage with maximum read rates of up to 600MB/sec and maximum write speeds of up to 500MB/sec. Oh, and the sustained write speeds are right around 400MB/sec. Essentially, this device will contain four 256GB MLC-based OCZ SSDs along with 256MB of ECC DDR2 RAM; when slapped in one's desktop, they can choose to set it up as the boot disk or a slave. OCZ is also hoping to offer a 4TB edition by the end of the year, which is totally plausible given that 1TB SSDs are already a reality. The on-hand demo was just a mockup shell, but the finalized version shouldn't look much different than what's pictured in the gallery below. As for pricing and availability? It should hit the US of A in around six weeks for somewhere between $1,500 and $2,000. It's high-end, y'all.


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Yes its expensive but thats expected for something this new and THAT FAST! Gives off virtually no heat, no sound, low power, fits into PCI-E slot (which most of us likely have room for anyway). Could this be our future disregarding SuperSonic Sata (aka forthcoming SATA3?). I mean 600/500 is bloody insane!! Could boot Windows7 in < 2 seconds! Wink


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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Fri, 6th Mar 2009 16:49    Post subject:
speed booting os is more depended on cpu/ram rather than hd
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bushwacka




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PostPosted: Fri, 6th Mar 2009 16:57    Post subject:
if that works out like planned, they just overtook the whole WD (veloci)raptor market and eliminated the sound/heat issue in the process Very Happy

and yeah it all depends as well on your cpu and ram, but anyone who has a few thousand bucks left to buy a friggin HDD has a high end nehalem core system with a few gigs of super fast DDR3 (or whatever else comes out till the end of 2009) anyway
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swingman




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PostPosted: Fri, 6th Mar 2009 17:07    Post subject:
Mortibus wrote:
speed booting os is more depended on cpu/ram rather than hd

Just google "boot time ssd".

As for this
thudo wrote:
I mean 600/500 is bloody insane!! Could boot Windows7 in < 2 seconds! Wink

Probably but Windows 8 will be back to 45+ secs to boot. Every time hardware makes an advance, software writers get inefficient and gobble up all the headroom.
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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Fri, 6th Mar 2009 18:47    Post subject:
no need for google, based on my own experience
difference between same setup only ide 133 vs sata 2 is ide=30+- secs sata2 15+- secs bios boot doesn't count
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thudo




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PostPosted: Fri, 6th Mar 2009 19:43    Post subject:
Ah people? A little perspective..

I just built a < $740 CDN w/taxes (OEM-like) crap comp for a friend and put on latest Vista Ultimate x64 + SP1 + Updates then added all the usual bloatware (Office2007, Acrobat 9, etc). Proceeded to easily overclock to 25% over spec (ie. 3.0->3.75ghz) and now Vista comes up from Post to Desktop in < 10sec. AND THIS IS WITH CRAP PARTS IMO. Motherboard alone is made of pure Fail-Juice but has at least enough features to be overclock-friendly.

So you say speed-booting is CPU/Mem dependant or Windows7 (no such thing as a v8 ) comes up in.. err.. 45sec? [WTF?!? We run latest W7 beta here and it creams Vista in bootup and everything else on even sh*t hardware). So if my crap new OEM system boots Vista x64 Ultimate in < 10sec imagine W7? [Gasp!]

As for speed-booting is CPU/Mem dependant -- add mobo and add HDD too. HDDs are ALWAYS the weakest link in a comp UNTIL SSDs came along and in 1-2 years it will be a new renaissance of PC system building. Getting decent CPU/Mem combos is moot as you can buy smart and overclock high. I'm faaaaarrr more concerned about overall speed with a good mobo and HDD (latter being the slowest piece).


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swingman




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PostPosted: Fri, 6th Mar 2009 20:24    Post subject:
thudo wrote:
So you say speed-booting is CPU/Mem dependant or Windows7 (no such thing as a v8 ) comes up in.. err.. 45sec?


I agree that boot time is a combination of cpu/mem/mobo AND hd. Secondly, my point was that each succeeding generation of OS or even software for that matter manages to make today's top hardware feel sluggish. It's not always due to the hardware becoming outdated but bloatware is also to blame. I was just extrapolating that the next version of windows (which I am well aware isn't here yet Very Happy) will make even that fancy ssd feel slow. Remember how much memory you needed to run win98 and contrast it with XP.
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thudo




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PostPosted: Fri, 6th Mar 2009 20:58    Post subject:
np Swingman although whats interesting this time is that W7 is faster than Vista but obviously not as fast as WinXP (we've all been conditioned since Nov'06 on the massive bloat that is Vista so W7 just feels more agile whereas its slower than XP). This is logical in the coding biz: Office2000 faster than OfficeXP is faster than Office2003 is faster than Office2007 and so on.. Every incarnation of Photoshop demands more because more "features/modules" the companies expect people to want are loaded up. Thus, we all feel we need to buy faster machines to compensate. Just more "filler" being ultimately added to software like Nero which turned massively "bloataeous" when v7 rolled around. Gawd!

Imagine if the world was coded in assembler? 100x times more efficient but exponentially far more difficult to code in.

My next system is gonna be a 32nm 6Gb DDR3 + USB3 + SATA3 system running W7 x64. Can't stand 32bit OSes -- so crap and slow. x64 all the way!


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